Originally Posted by Treewell
Those pictures tell you nothing. I've actually skied at both places many times so have first hand knowledge of which I speak.
Powdr, I'm with Treewell on this one. I've skied Goat
multiple times. I've skied all over Alta/bird. Both locales have helped my skiing tremendously.
I've never been able to "non-stop" Goat
; that nasty double fall line is tough! I've never "top-to-bottomed" Starr
either; it's steep and narrow and the bumps are *hard* even with 8" of fresh on them. (Starr
My first look down STH
at Snowbird nearly made me *faint*. It is so much more steep.... After two runs on STH
(ugly!) I realized it was "just steeper" than Eastern Blacks ... but it was forgiving in that it was so much wider.
My Eastern skiing benefitted my skiing in the Rockies
because I handled any narrow/dicey sections of a run with ease. I was already accustomed to having only *one choice* of a line to ski -- and what Westerners call "ice" is what Easterners call "hard pack."
When I returned to K-mart and Stowe I wasn't nearly so jittery about steep runs; Utah had cured me of those butterflies. Utah and Colorado helped my Eastern skiing by allowing me to relax
about extreme pitches ... big drops into a run ... and I learned how to ski real powder.
<War Story> When I moved to Colorado, I made it here "just in time" to join my new co-workers on the Company Ski Trip to Breckenridge. During the Charter Bus Ride I got ribbed a little about how much bigger and steeper Colorado was than "those little hills back East." (I had kept my five years of skiing Alta/bird a secret; I wasn't worried.)
Finally, I stood up in the bus and reported, "I've been told if you can ski the East, you can ski anywhere
; you guys are not scaring me."
"Woooo!!!" They jeered. Then they turned to "Dave" and said, "Show him how we ski out here." So Dave and I were buddies for the day.
After a few runs, Dave brought me to the top of a "double black" called "Seven-Up" or "Seven Eleven" (I just checked Breck's online Map. It doesn't exist anymore.) Anyway, it was long, quite steep, well bumped and narrow (for a Western slope). Dave asked me if I was "ready for this."
I replied, "Lead the way" and he skied it pretty well. He fell twice and had one or two "hip checks" too. After recovering from his second fall, he gestured up to me to "come on."
I waved him on. He skied to the Cat Track at the bottom.
I then skied it, top-to-bottom (with two or three hip checks of my own).
When we met the rest of the group for lunch, they all chorused, "Well? Did he ski Seven-Up?"
Dave replied, "He can ski."
Oh yeah. At lunch I *did* admit I'd been skiing Alta/bird for the last several years (Tee-hee!!!) </War Story>