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post #1 of 26
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So they're now onto day 2 of the SIA 2007 convention in Vegas.

You can get to the current day's magazine here: http://www.skipressworld.com/snowpress

Here are the direct SkiPress links to the first 2 days of coverage:
http://3w.skipressworld.com/magazine...SIA_D1_001.swf
http://3w.skipressworld.com/magazine...SIA_D2_001.swf

Unfortunately they're still using that crappy Macromedia FlashPaper app instead of plain old PDFs like previous years. I really hate the way they've changed how they publish their stuff.

While perusing the convention rags I found this interesting link:
New Atomic gear: http://contest.atomicski.com/

So let's try to keep all the information that comes in on new gear from SIA 2007 in this thread.
post #2 of 26
Interesting. 80 somthing waisted skis look the the new 70 something's. Atomic: Carving skis are dead.
post #3 of 26
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New Stockli Stormrider XXL

The new Stockli Freeride offering:
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post #4 of 26
A promise to ski with her oughta make your leg heal faster eh, noodler
post #5 of 26
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I read the Atomic web site info about the new Hawx line of ski boots. They incorporate a "flex zone" at the ball of foot area to allow the boot to actually flex there. I remember Atomic trying this somewhat before with mixed results. They seem to think that skiers want to be able to flex the ball of their foot when they're skiing. Do we? I'm not so sure.
post #6 of 26
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I read the Atomic web site info about the new Hawx line of ski boots. They incorporate a "flex zone" at the ball of foot area to allow the boot to actually flex there. I remember Atomic trying this somewhat before with mixed results. They seem to think that skiers want to be able to flex the ball of their foot when they're skiing.

Or perhaps while walking around?

http://www.wildsnow.com/articles/sca...f1_review.html

Unlike the scarpa, this looks more like they're trying to modify deep flex behavior.

post #7 of 26
I'd like to know whether Fischer is going to continue the RX line. Anybody heard one way or the other ?
post #8 of 26
Its got to be tough in the ski biz reinventing yourself and coming up with something that distinguishes your company from the competition year in year out. I think too often the inovations fall short and don't deliver. I'm gullible, and over the years have purchased a lot of stuff that was the next big thing that died and never endured. As for boots, I'm skeptical that being able to flex at the ball of the foot will deliver heightened ski performance. Look at the best ski racesrs of all times, Stenmark, Mahre, Kus, Herminator, Giardelli (didn'y he even ski for a few seasons in the rear entry Salomon boot) , they delievered tremendous results in a basic four buckle boot.

The skeptic in me tells me that good boots are good boots that will deliver input to the skis. Anyway, its always interesting to see what's new. Ten bucks says this new Atomic design goes nowhwere over time.
post #9 of 26
Does anyone know if the Supershapes from this year are going to be discontinued? Seeing the new wider Supershape Magnum has me worried that this may be the case. I might have to pick up a pair this year if the Supershapes are in fact a goner. Thanks.
post #10 of 26
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gregmerz -go check out ski-depot.com - they already have a preview of the 2008 Fischer line. The RX series is still there and they've added a fatter version of the RX series called "Heat". The new Heat series looks really good.

discobean7 - I believe that the narrower Supershapes will remain.
post #11 of 26
Day 3's magazine is blurry. Anyone else having this problem?
post #12 of 26
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The Day 3 magazine is showing up just fine for me.
post #13 of 26
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I just read in the Day 3 mag what happened to Dolomite in the Elan/Dalbello deal. They're now an independent under the Nordica umbrella. They slimmed the line down to 2 men's models and 2 women's models and they're going after the high margin specialty sales.

Bye bye Dolomite. Another one bites the dust.
post #14 of 26
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I just read in the Day 3 mag what happened to Dolomite in the Elan/Dalbello deal. They're now an independent under the Nordica umbrella. They slimmed the line down to 2 men's models and 2 women's models and they're going after the high margin specialty sales.

Bye bye Dolomite. Another one bites the dust.
Exactly. I think I posted that a couple of months ago when this was announced.


Blizzard is at the show..I am wondering how they will be repped.
post #15 of 26
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Blizzard is at the show..I am wondering how they will be repped.
4 reps. East, midwest, Rocky MT, and far west. They're all young and all from within the Tecnica Group.
post #16 of 26
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I'm excited. Cat Tracks have always been a necessary evil if you care about maintaining the soles of your boots. Then the Walk-EZ folks came out with an alternative, but they were huge, heavy, and not very convenient (I never bought into the "lock them somewhere" idea).

Now the Walk-EZ folks have come out with a new version called the Revolution G-II (as seen on page 11 of the Day 4 mag). This version looks light, compact, and it's foldable. It sure looks like they'll easily fit in my pack and they might even fit in a pocket.
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post #17 of 26
Any information on the Volkl Tigersharks?
post #18 of 26
More news coming later after I dig out of 4 days of uhhhh.....stuff that has piled up.

However...................

In my mind, Dolomite is not dead at all. The boots are similar in shape to some Nordicas but in some positions are better values (by far). There are 6-8 models in each of men's and women's with the best stuff at the higher end. I am pretty close with the buyers/fitters of several specialty shops that are likely to pick up this brand.

SJ
post #19 of 26
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Skier-X85 - there's a video here of them: http://skieur.com/index.php?module=s...dEdito=1&ido=9

Hope you can speak French.
post #20 of 26
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SJ - That's good news. I actually like their line and they fit my feet (at least they did pre-accident - who knows now). I was only reporting what I read in the SIA rag. They said that there were only 4 models total for next year.
post #21 of 26
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SJ - That's good news. I actually like their line and they fit my feet (at least they did pre-accident - who knows now). I was only reporting what I read in the SIA rag. They said that there were only 4 models total for next year.
Too bad that info is out there as that does them a disservice.

I have at least 6 models penciled into my boot lineup for next year. Some of the highlights (for me at least) are a 130 flex 98mm mens boot that will be under $600, a mens 100 flex 98mm in a conservative freeride (ish) graphic that will be in the mid $550 range, and a Ladies 90 flex, 98mm that will also be in the mid-low $500's. They won't be using a lot of fancy buckles and multi colored shells but basic looking boots can fit and ski as well as the flashy stuff.

SJ
post #22 of 26
This is all better news than I heard too. I heard they would be the boot of choice for Gart and Sport Authority type chains.
post #23 of 26
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This is all better news than I heard too. I heard they would be the boot of choice for Gart and Sport Authority type chains.
They will not be sold in those chains.

SJ
post #24 of 26
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Too bad that info is out there as that does them a disservice.

I have at least 6 models penciled into my boot lineup for next year. Some of the highlights (for me at least) are a 130 flex 98mm mens boot that will be under $600, a mens 100 flex 98mm in a conservative freeride (ish) graphic that will be in the mid $550 range, and a Ladies 90 flex, 98mm that will also be in the mid-low $500's. They won't be using a lot of fancy buckles and multi colored shells but basic looking boots can fit and ski as well as the flashy stuff.

SJ
What is the difference between the new 130 flex/98mm forefoot boot and the current Pro Z 130, if any? It is nice that they are taking the narrower boot down to a softer flex (under 110). Dolomite makes some of the best bang-for-the-buck boots around. The ZRage 120 is a great boot for $399.

Sorry for the questions, but I opted out of Vegas this year. I am spending the money attending an additional on-snow demo event. Move SIA to Salt Lake! While I at it, move Interbike anywhere but Vegas! The most cycling-unfriendly city I have yet encountered.
post #25 of 26
Noodler, great video link. Too bad I don't speak French. The Tigershark has the looks, but I wonder if it delivers.
post #26 of 26
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What is the difference between the new 130 flex/98mm forefoot boot and the current Pro Z 130, if any? It is nice that they are taking the narrower boot down to a softer flex (under 110). Dolomite makes some of the best bang-for-the-buck boots around. The ZRage 120 is a great boot for $399.

Sorry for the questions, but I opted out of Vegas this year. I am spending the money attending an additional on-snow demo event. Move SIA to Salt Lake! While I at it, move Interbike anywhere but Vegas! The most cycling-unfriendly city I have yet encountered.
I am not currently a dealer so this is second hand (from the CEO). He says that the new model is the same as the Z-Pro 130 but in a nice matte black. It feels slightly different to me than a Dobie 130 or Hot Rod. I agree on the Z Rage. It is going to be a great competitor in the fit range of the Beast 10 and the Dalbello Proton 8.

I hear you on Vegas and Trade Fairs etc. I am trying to figure out how to test all the stuff that I have to at Mammoth (12 Brands - 3 days). When they had a Nor-Cal and So Cal TF, I had a total of 5 days to do my testing. If I can wrangle a couple of Private intros before hand or just after maybe I can get 'er done, but I dunno.

SJ
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