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post #121 of 133
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"Suck" is a relative term.  It's not surprising this thread devolved to complaints about places like Vail.  Next it'll be JH.  "Chamonix sucks because there are not enough runs for the family.  It's too big, and too many people speak French."

 

Chamonix does suck for the mixed ability,ski in/out,easy groomer all want to meet up for coffee and lunch groups.

 

Every ski hill on the planet sucks relatively for someone - blues are too hard/easy, lifts too slow/fast, too much/little grooming,not enough hazard marking/too much nannying, no backcountry access/can't believe they allow such dangerous activity.

 

How about simple things resorts could do to suck less?

 

Vail-30 mins longer opening on Blue Sky/backside to allow crowds to naturally disperse back.  Extending opening on Northwoods/ MidVail uplift to allow easier fall line access back to Lionshead. Bus stops near the lifts rather than the other side of a shopping mall.

post #122 of 133
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Chamonix does suck for the mixed ability,ski in/out,easy groomer all want to meet up for coffee and lunch groups.

 

Every ski hill on the planet sucks relatively for someone - blues are too hard/easy, lifts too slow/fast, too much/little grooming,not enough hazard marking/too much nannying, no backcountry access/can't believe they allow such dangerous activity.

 

How about simple things resorts could do to suck less?

 

Vail-30 mins longer opening on Blue Sky/backside to allow crowds to naturally disperse back.  Extending opening on Northwoods/ MidVail uplift to allow easier fall line access back to Lionshead. Bus stops near the lifts rather than the other side of a shopping mall.

 

Exactly.  But does Vail really suck?  

 

Yes, my closest mountain, Crotched, sucks to anyone whose idea of real skiing is la Vallée Blanche, but people have a blast there, anyway. 

post #123 of 133

Every single ski area in western Canada has a Achilles heel or flaw, be it crowds, weather, lift layout, run layout, base area layout, lack of development, financial viability etc. Yet in total Western Canada offers some of the best skiing in the world.

 

What makes one area better than another is really more about an individual's preferences.

post #124 of 133
What sucks is lift ticket cost at most places.
post #125 of 133
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What sucks is lift ticket cost at most places.

 

 

Totally.  No argument.

post #126 of 133

There are only two kinds of ski hills that "suck", those that have no snow and those that have snow but are closed..:hissyfit:

post #127 of 133

Isn't it funny I picked up this thread? I just searched for some old ski areas I used to ski (nostalgia) and up popped this thread.

 

I didn't really see that this was a basically defunct conversation :-)

post #128 of 133

Happens.  Welcome aboard!

post #129 of 133
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Exactly.  But does Vail really suck?

 

 

Yes.

 

But I think some things are even worse than Vail. I have decided that small ski areas are awesome, but small ski resorts are just the worst suck in skiing.

 

Somebody else mentioned Solvista, now known as Granby Ranch. Granby Ranch is a fairly large golf-oriented resort that happens to have a ski area. Entering the ski area is entering a non-stop pitch to buy a condo there. An ad on every lift tower. On every wall of the lodge. Everywhere. The skiing is marginal, at best. There is no advanced terrain, very little intermediate terrain, and the resort sees something under 200" of snow a year.  Small ski resorts done wrong manage to package everything unattractive about the sport in one package- Resort BS minus the terrain/vert of a large resort.  The terrain of a local hill minus the charm.

 

Contrast with Ski Cooper. No advanced terrain, but some good cruisers and intermediate trees that nobody ever skis. More to the point, the place is low key, cheap, and friendly.

post #130 of 133

Suck is a very strong word, but perspective is everything.

A place that I really don’t care for (ex. Monarch) still blows the freaking doors off 95% of mountains to the east of I-25.

But if I was stuck at some anthill in say.....Ohio:eek , oh, that would suck.

post #131 of 133

One thing that sucks is advertisements with sound. When did EpicSki start running these?

 

Alpine skiing can be sort of boring if it's not challenging. I didn't like Stratton because I couldn't find interesting terrain. The addition of terrain parks have done a lot to make tame hills more fun for those with the skills to ski them. Acrobatic skiing is fun if you're not too cool to do tip rolls, crossover 360s, stuff like that. For me Telemark skiing is fun even on terrain that would have bored me when I skied fixed heel. If you find yourself on a ski hill that bores you find a way to have fun. Maybe even rent a snowboard!

post #132 of 133

The only thing that sucks about skiing is when your not skiing, get it.

post #133 of 133

Are we still trying to help Proton stay positive?

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