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Snowboard NASTAR?

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Anyone here ever do NASTAR with their snowboard? I've never done it on my skis much less my snowboard. What's the trick? Is it any fun? I'm just thinking about doing it for kicks to see where I stand for my age and gender. I figure there aren't too many women my age racing snowboards on NASTAR courses. If anyone wants free entertainment on Saturday, I'm sessioning the NASTAR course at Winter Park. I'll try it with my Never Summer Premier 161 and my brand new Atomic Cold Smoke 157. Which works better - carving board, all-mountian board, board that gets on edge pretty quick? I think I can safely rule out the use of a freestyle board here. Heck, I may qualify for Steamboat.:
post #2 of 14
Nastar gives a 15% extra handicap to riders. One drawback I've found is that trying to shave the gates in a toe side turn is a "dental" experience. On skis you can nick the gates with your forearms. On a board, I have not yet figured out how to get anything between my face and the gate, so I just go a little wider instead. There's nothing like the first time you line up a good toe side turn in the groove, look up and go "WHOA BABY that aint gonna work"!

The last Nastar run I did on my board was a ton of fun until I caught my tip on the last gate in a high speed heel side turn and, ah, kinda sorta broke my clavicle. Since it has not totally healed up yet, I'm going to wait a while longer before jumping back on that horse. Your medals may vary.
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Nastar gives a 15% extra handicap to riders. One drawback I've found is that trying to shave the gates in a toe side turn is a "dental" experience. On skis you can nick the gates with your forearms. On a board, I have not yet figured out how to get anything between my face and the gate, so I just go a little wider instead. There's nothing like the first time you line up a good toe side turn in the groove, look up and go "WHOA BABY that aint gonna work"!

The last Nastar run I did on my board was a ton of fun until I caught my tip on the last gate in a high speed heel side turn and, ah, kinda sorta broke my clavicle. Since it has not totally healed up yet, I'm going to wait a while longer before jumping back on that horse. Your medals may vary.
Wow. Thanks Rusty you just saved my teeth. : I hadn't thought that toe side thing through. I can do without the broken clavicle thing too. I already broke them 3X in my youth. I think I will tiptoe through the course and leave the medals to the youngsters. I haven't even gone through the course yet and they have me ranked 31st for my age and gender for WP on the NASTAR website. :
post #4 of 14
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That was fun! On my first run ever, that really was just a high speed cruise, I was 8 seconds from a bronze. Well that messed up my morning. It took four more runs to get a bronze. And my final two runs of the day I was 1 second away from a silver. I was hitting gates with my arms and posterior by then, and into high speed tuck position. My Atomic Cold Smoke was awesome. I'll get that silver another time. :
post #5 of 14
Way to go Daysailer! What stance angles are you riding?
post #6 of 14
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15 and -5. I hate to admit it but I was using freestyle angles. I guess I could try a more racer forward stance but I've never done that before.

I think what helped me the most was quite by accident yesterday morning. Instead of our usual resort trainer for our 8 AM Level 2 Cert clinic, we got the top resort trainer - Chris Hargrave (who basically wrote the AASI Park and Pipe Instructor's Guide). Chris had us working on initiation of short and long radius carved turns. I learned some things I didn't know. The drills he has us working on really helped in those gates. Once I started chasing gates, my sailboat racing instincts kicked in and I kept pushing myself to do better each run. I think I'll do it again.
post #7 of 14
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Wellllllll, after much waffling,,,,,I'm going car camping in Steamboat Springs next week. I paid the entry fee and will be trying my luck in the NASTAR nationals. I just read that they will be using snowboard gates instead of skier gates on the snowboard course. So, does anybody here know if there are different approach tactics to snowboard gates versus the teeth eating skier gates? I'd appreciate any help on this. I'd hate to look totally ridiculous. Thank you in advance.
post #8 of 14

It's just a guess

I miss Vlad. I don't race, but the tactics ought to change. The triangular shaped gates let you go right at them. You should be able to complete more turn above the gates like the skiers do.
post #9 of 14
Our kids could never do too well on boards in Nastar. Much better results with skis. I told them that most of the fast European boarders used hard boots and a toe forward stance that the kids never used instead of their typical sideways stances and flexible snowboard boots.
post #10 of 14
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I think I'm going to have to take advantage of those practice runs they are offering to get the gate thing down.

I'm using an all mountain board with regular ol' freestyle bindings, soft boots, and a 15/-5 stance. That might be why the other women in my age group have some time on me. I refuse to wear some form fitting race suit. I'm thinking of wearing my ski school uniform if my Director allows it (I really don't think he will due to liability). I'm racing for the greater glory of Winter Park in the team competition. My supervisor wants me to wear the ski school mascot moose head down the course.

Anyway, today I went and tried the course again. I managed to get my time down some more and got a silver medal. Took me like 9 runs to get it. The snow went from slightly frozen to mush. The Winter Park NASTAR course guys said it's going to be a swamp in Steamboat next week as it's at a lower elevation. I think it will all depend on temps. Heck this is Colorado, prepare for everything.
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I miss Vlad...


Baseball has the pinch-hitter. Why not a forum-specific poster?
post #12 of 14
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The NASTAR Nationals were fun and rather interesting. They gave us snowboard gates on one course that we ran two different times. We women cheered each other on and had a blast. It was nice meeting competitors from around the nation. It was my first time racing my snowboard against other people. It was a bit different than say sailboat racing, softball, it was more like competitive swimming. I got many tips from the ski racers on how to approach the course. I will definitely need a alpine board if I want to ever beat the top two women in my division. I ended up in third place with a little over 1 second between me and the fourth place finisher. The medal looks real nice. I had Phil Mahre sign my jersey when he did the pacesetting for our course.

Steamboat was kinda soggy but real fun. I did see a first there. Two instructors in uniform were there from Aspen coaching some kids on the NASTAR course. The female instructor caught a gate and did a total yard sale. I had never seen an Aspen instructor crash before much less in such spectacular fashion. I don't think the Vail instructor in line saw her crash.

Oh, the prize I got on the podium was a pair of ski poles. Anybody need any 52" ski poles? I've listed them in the gear for sale section.
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The NASTAR Nationals were fun and rather interesting. They gave us snowboard gates on one course that we ran two different times. We women cheered each other on and had a blast. It was nice meeting competitors from around the nation. It was my first time racing my snowboard against other people. It was a bit different than say sailboat racing, softball, it was more like competitive swimming. I got many tips from the ski racers on how to approach the course. I will definitely need a alpine board if I want to ever beat the top two women in my division. I ended up in third place with a little over 1 second between me and the fourth place finisher. The medal looks real nice. I had Phil Mahre sign my jersey when he did the pacesetting for our course.

Steamboat was kinda soggy but real fun. I did see a first there. Two instructors in uniform were there from Aspen coaching some kids on the NASTAR course. The female instructor caught a gate and did a total yard sale. I had never seen an Aspen instructor crash before much less in such spectacular fashion. I don't think the Vail instructor in line saw her crash.

Oh, the prize I got on the podium was a pair of ski poles. Anybody need any 52" ski poles? I've listed them in the gear for sale section.
Congrats, daysailor!

They give away ski poles to snowboarders? What's up with that?:

Being 6'2". I use 52" poles, but don't currently need any. If you have any skiers in your family, you can cut them down to fit someone else.
post #14 of 14
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Thanks. All the snowboarders thought it was hysterical that they gave us ski poles. My division decided to hold them upside down on the podium to prove a point.

I went into the locker room this morning and just starting asking all the tall guy instructors if they needed new poles. I got them sold in about 10 minutes.
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