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Kristina Koznick on Balance Training - Page 2

post #31 of 36
Since Harry is a bit slow on the uptake, pyramidal, cerebellar and extrapyramidal. Skiing as with many sports involves a fascinating blend of postures -- hands forward, constant shin pressure -- and finely coordinated dynamic movements and adaptations, each of which involves a different mix of these systems.

In a good-faith dialogue that does not involve trying to peck one side into exhaustion through petty questions, you can discuss how and why to train these things. To apostasy I plead guilty, and am done.
post #32 of 36
I give up. If you dont understand by now, you never will.
post #33 of 36
Originally Posted by Harry Dunn View Post
... These exercises are to develop certain muscle groups- just like you said, and just like we've all said! What don't you get? Balance exercises are to develop these muscles, and train them how to respond in different movements. No one is saying that doing squats on a balance board directly translates to skiing gates- we're saying that they make your legs stronger and learn to react to those forces you experience skiing gates.
I don't think that's quite right, if you want to increase strength you need to subject the muscles to large forces. If you are doing squats or anything else at or close to maximum effort on a wobbly surface you stand a high risk of injury.

Balance exercises are not about developing strength; for virtually any muscle you will find an isolated or compound movement that will work it far more effectively. Balance training is all about you central nervous system.
post #34 of 36
^^^ Yes, but these exercises are meant to develop strength WITH balance. Squats on a balance board work more muscles than regular squats on flat ground- because you've got new forces working against your body. I wasn't insinuating that balance exercises are used to develop strength in a better manner than other methods- just that strength is one of the benefits.
post #35 of 36
Originally Posted by CTKook View Post
1000 steps all the way! This is actually a good question.

To take mtb: A lot of the ways to turn a bike involve angulation and/or banking or counter, and even controlled drift, just like skiing (or riding). The energy systems used are similar. Jumping is similar, pumping or absorbing terrain, etc. is very similar. I realize a lot of people here don't think you can pump or absorb terrain, but strangely in the MTB world it's quite accepted btw. www.leelikesbikes.com is a great resource if you want to learn more about this, if you MTB at all well worth reading for it's own sake but also to understand how the turning in particular is so closely related. It doesn't mean you have to MTB to get in shape for skiing, just that there is a lot of crossover. And also the fun that I and SnoTrainer both mentioned: it is fun. In another thread I mentioned I don't have the discipline to follow the spinning in Bergmuller's approach exactly. But, an hour just playing around at low intensity on the MTB is play not work and can achieve close to the same thing.
CTKook I agree with you the problem is that most people think of riding a bike as something they did when they were kids and if they ride mountain bikes most likely they ride them on flat surfaces at slow speeds to take in the lovely scenery and the kind of riding that translates to skiing is beyond the reach of most casual mountain bike riders.
post #36 of 36


So here's an exercise while bouncing on the BOSU with the Dome side up.

Put on some country music to get some rhythm going, then get up on the BOSU with a pair of ski poles across your wrists. Be sure to set up a tall mirror to see your position as you bounce. Now while bouncing try some angulation drills, then bouncing in a circle on the BOSU, still keeping the ski poles on your wrists without dropping them. Watch your position in the mirror and see if there is some relationship with the bouncing and your skiing position and your body's alignment. You might be surprised in what you see in the mirror.

Have fun with it. It does help to train your balance skills and over time you may see some overall improvement. I'm now able to do 180 degree turns while holding my poles. Have tried 360s but not quite there. Oh, one suggestion about the BOSU. Don't get it wet while bouncing or you'll fall off in short order.

whtmt & Mackenzie 911
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