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post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 
Alright, first post here. It has been information overload for me since I found this site. I have been out of the ski gear scene for awhile and now am pretty lost on picking gear. My skis are getting pretty dated these days, 1999 Salomon X-screams and are due for an update. First on the list is to pick up some used race skis now and buy some mid-fats later in the year. My Salomon X-wave 9.0 boots (1.5 years old) are still working pretty well for me.

I want to pick up some used race skis for City League racing at Alpental. My 195cm Xscreams are definetly not the ski of choice.
I am 26, 5'10" 195lbs, in decent shape, ski 20-30 days a year
I would call myself a level 7-8 skier, I ski aggressively all over the mountain but my form definetly falls off on the tougher stuff.

I am thinking about a 175cm GS ski, either a race or carver. I need a ski to get me by while I figure out exactly what I want. Any suggestions on which models to watch for on the used market?

My search for a mid-fat ski to replace the Xscreams I think will have to come later in the year.

Thanks,
Scott
post #2 of 22
Thread Starter 
Someone locally is selling these:
2005 P60 W/C GS, 175cm, $180.00

Something to consider?
post #3 of 22

Atomic SX-11

Scott,

I'd say find yourself a used pair of Atomic SX-11 (not the B-5 version). To me they are the perfect City (read Beer) League race ski.

Unless the league is way different than the one here in Calgary, most of the courses that they set are a hybrid between a slalom and GS course. Our slalom courses tend to have around 30-35 gates, but no straight lines and our GS courses have around 25 gates.

I think that the SX-11 is versatile enough to adapt to both types of courses.

With regards to your mid-fat replacement for your X-Screams, be prepared to go much fatter the you expect. The groomer performance of today's fatter skis are amazing. I have a three ski quiver right now - 170 cm SX-11, 176 cm Elan 666 and 188 cm Volkl Mantra. After skiing a number of times this year on my Mantras, I can't really see myself skiing my Elans very much. My Atomics will be used on the "rip it on the groomer" days and anything else will be reserved for my Mantras. For a 94 mm waist ski, the Mantra are an good ski on the groomers and the simply out perform the Elans in anything resembling soft snow (fresh, chopped, windblown, etc.)

My vitals to help place these things in perspective. 38 years old, 5'10", 185 lbs, level 8ish, skiing for 30 years, home mountain Lake Louise and get out about 20 times per year.

Hope this helps.

Cheers

Treycal
post #4 of 22
Thread Starter 
Great, thanks for the info. Your beer league course sounds very close to ours. I will keep an eye out for SX-11's and maybe some mantra's. I feel like I am in the stone age with my equipment now. Need to get back up to speed with things.

Are the SX-10's similar, but softer to the 11's?
post #5 of 22
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Originally Posted by Scotth View Post
Are the SX-10's similar, but softer to the 11's?
Never skied the 10's myself, but I have a friend who skied my SX-11's and then demoed the 10's. He said that they are very simliar, but that the 11's were are little more stiff and demanding, less forgivable, but he could get more "pop" out of the them. So yes, I'd say the 10's are similar to the 11's but softer.

Good luck and have fun in the race league. It's done wonders for my skiing over the past 6 years. Funny enough my first races were also on Salomon X-Screams and just like you, I quickly decided they were definitely not the ski for the race course.

Cheers

Treycal
post #6 of 22
I noticed that some of the Sports Authority loactions around here had the old SX11 for well under $200. I think it was either $150 or $175 (senior moment! )
post #7 of 22
Thread Starter 
Cool, there is a Sports Authority by my house, I better check it out.
What size SX11 should I be looking at, 175cm?
post #8 of 22
Here are some options:

Dynastar Course
Rossi 9X Oversize
Fischer WC RC, or SC in longer length
2005 Head iXRC 1100 RD
2006 Head iXRC 1200 SW
Elan GSX Fusion Pro (any recent model year, also called the GX Fusion)
Elan RIPstick
Atomic SX11
Atomic GS9
Volkl P50 or P60 carver
Blizzard GSR IQ or standard GSR

There are also a variety of top-end primarily on-piste freeskis that would work for you.

I do have the Head 1200 from last year around, they are $349 w/binding. I am not sure if that is what you are interested in, but if so, PM me. All of the skis on this list are well-regarded. Good luck with the hunt!
post #9 of 22
I have been using my SX10's for my city league in EDM and I can't say I would need a better ski.

Perhaps some more stiffness would be nice but I can use these skis anywhere and have a blast on them regardless of it's the local hill, or a harpack day at the mountains off piste, bumps, crud, chop and even some light Pow.

I have seen SX10's for real cheap on Ebay, perhaps look there or even at local retailers. THe B5 models have made the SX10's seem outdated but they certainly are not.
post #10 of 22
Thread Starter 
Well, no SX:11's at sport authority

Should I go look at these, used 2005 P60 W/C GS 175cm's?
post #11 of 22
The '04-'05 and '05-'06 non FIS Atomic GS-11s are around 18-19 m radius which will work well for you also. Just look 'em over carefully, because some have been really thrashed!
post #12 of 22
Thread Starter 
You guys tired of me yet? $150 on ebay for some used SX10's with Salomon 912's. Should I given them a try, or hold out and find something else?
post #13 of 22
Fire in the hole. I'd go for it, Dayam $150 bucks :
post #14 of 22
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Originally Posted by dawgcatching View Post
........I do have the Head 1200 from last year around, they are $349 w/binding. I am not sure if that is what you are interested in, but if so, PM me. All of the skis on this list are well-regarded. Good luck with the hunt!
If it would not end with my wife divorceing me, I would be all over that deal.
post #15 of 22
Thread Starter 
Alright, the SX10's are on their way. I will let you guys know how they work out. Thanks again, Scott
post #16 of 22
Thread Starter 
Wow, found my old thread. I have been rocking the SX:10's for a year now with new Neox bindings on them. They are 170's. I have continued with city league, but am now training an additional night with the Masters program. The 170cm SX:10's are fine for slalom and tigher GS courses, but I am looking for more grip and stability on the more open city league course, especially on fast/hard nights. Should I look at getting a full race GS ski for the faster more open nights? SX:11's? I am 5'10" 195-200. I would sell the SX:10's if I could find a stiff GS ski that I could get by in slalom too, in a 175-180cm size.

Any other GS ski recommendations? One or two years old is typically my price range. I may run masters races next year, but I will deal with that when it comes.
post #17 of 22
Glad the SX10's have been a good ski for you.

I am still rockin the piss out of mine, still lovem em, still have a riot every time out on em. Out of 7 different pairs I own they get the most use.

I feel foolish now admitting this, after re-reading thread, but I found a pair of Dynastar Speed Course 66, 182 cm"Race Stock" at the ski swap meet at the start of the season, with full on Look turntable race bindings and lifter. Price was right at $125.

well yup a better ski makes master's racing more fun, more challenging and ups the learning curve.

While I still love to rip the GS course on the 160 cm, SX10, the Speed Course makes all the differance in edge grip, and lets hope speed I have a race tonight.

Yes the SX10's are easier to ski, and throw over and get on time for gates, but the Speed Course's are alot smoother and provide a much more solid edge (when I get it right) but if I mess up, it's game over for that run, very very very hard to get back on time for the rest of the course. Perhaps a shorter length (than 182) would minimize this.

I still use the SX10's for SL and I did wicked in the year end race last year (4th place) I was shocked to see I did so well amongst some great SL skiers. I am hoping for top 3 in SL this year and top 10 in GS (got 14th last year)

If you really enjoy the master racing as I do, buy some high end year or two GS skis. Lots of people are raving about the Volkl Race Tigers, but I can't complain about the Dynastars, they are more ski than I know what to do with.
post #18 of 22
[quote=Marmot mb;847755]
While I still love to rip the GS course on the 160 cm, SX10, the Speed Course makes all the differance in edge grip, and lets hope speed I have a race tonight./quote]

Umm yeah about buying GS Race skis. DO IT ! DO IT!

Last year I placed 10th on the SX10

Tonight I got 1st place and had the fastest single run time.

I watched alot of the racers and so many of them had great lines and looked really fast and clean. Most of them were on 165 - 175 cm skis. I thought I might get top 10.

I think the length and the high quality of the Race Stock ski, and the Fluro SWIX wax had alot to do with my low times, as my runs really didn't feel great, and I know I was late on a few gates.

If this place has taught me anything it's that equipment really does make a difference.
post #19 of 22
Thread Starter 
Sweet! Where you on your Dyna's?
post #20 of 22
Luv my Fishcer RC4 WC GS in 175cm. I am a little smaller than you and course sounds more open.
post #21 of 22
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Originally Posted by Scotth View Post
Sweet! Where you on your Dyna's?
Yes I was on the Dynastar Speed Course 66's 182 cm. 1 degrees Base / 3 degree edge. LF6 SWIX wax (race temp was -9 C), scraped, brass brused and nylon brushed.
post #22 of 22
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Originally Posted by Marmot mb View Post
I feel foolish now admitting this, after re-reading thread, but I found a pair of Dynastar Speed Course 66, 182 cm"Race Stock" at the ski swap meet at the start of the season, with full on Look turntable race bindings and lifter. Price was right at $125.

well yup a better ski makes master's racing more fun, more challenging and ups the learning curve.

While I still love to rip the GS course on the 160 cm, SX10, the Speed Course makes all the differance in edge grip, and lets hope speed I have a race tonight.

Yes the SX10's are easier to ski, and throw over and get on time for gates, but the Speed Course's are alot smoother and provide a much more solid edge (when I get it right) but if I mess up, it's game over for that run, very very very hard to get back on time for the rest of the course. Perhaps a shorter length (than 182) would minimize this.

I still use the SX10's for SL and I did wicked in the year end race last year (4th place) I was shocked to see I did so well amongst some great SL skiers. I am hoping for top 3 in SL this year and top 10 in GS (got 14th last year)

If you really enjoy the master racing as I do, buy some high end year or two GS skis. Lots of people are raving about the Volkl Race Tigers, but I can't complain about the Dynastars, they are more ski than I know what to do with.
Are the Speed Courses I just picked up the same as yours?
http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=72448
Do you know what year they are?
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