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post #31 of 43
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Originally Posted by JaneB View Post
Thanks for feedback. Although it was my own fault for not doing enough homework, is there any possibility that the shop may take the boots back?
Maybe, depends on the shop....can't hurt to try.

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BTW, my Lange L10's, junior race boots, are great in the heel but tight in the forefoot; to the point where toes are numb. How much can that area be blown out?

JaneB
A lot (depends on the plastic though)!! When I first got the WC100s, my toes were squashed (big toe pushed over onto next toe, entire ball of foot tingly and numb, bunion screamin'), but they managed to bump/stretch them enough so the toe area is down right roomy now.
post #32 of 43
Jane-

there is usually plenty that can be done to give you room in the fore foot. I don't know where you are, but PJ Dewey at Race Stock sports in Waterbury VT (up near Stowe) specializes in kids race equipment- he will also fix the Lange shells for you - I think he charges by the hour for stuff he didn't sell.
post #33 of 43
Just as well the OP is a 22. I work with a lady who takes size 21! Apparently junior race boots start at 22, so she has to wear normal kids' boots, and they're SOFT.
post #34 of 43
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Originally Posted by SierraJim View Post
CC:

Depending a bit I guess upon where you live, it's hard to imagine that you can't find small boots somewhere. The racers at your resort have to get their boots somewhere, and that's the place you should go. Given your frustration level, I can see that even if you have to make quite a drive, it would be worth it.

SJ
My daughter, a FIS racer, had real trouble finding 22.5 race boots early this season (coach was off at some camp at that point). She hit SEVEN stores and was really frustrated. When they couldn't fit her foot in a stiff enough boot, they were pushing her to junior boots or recreational boots. They just couldn't believe that a 5'3" girl weighing 120 pounds had the need for such stiff boots as she was demanding. Fortunately, I was able to reach her coach, who has contacts with reps from his days coaching the women's US team and he snagged her some boots. The best part is, they were pro-formed or something, all I know is they were half price from what you would normally pay. Our local bootfitter worked with her to grind them to a point where she is smiling and the charge was nominal.

The kicker is, even though she told these stores she was a racer and wanted stiff boots and told them the flex index, they didn't say "we can special order exactly what you need" to her until she suddenly had them in hand. Then all of a sudden we get this "oh, we could have gotten THOSE for you". Anyway, I'd call a local coach and ask for the reps phone numbers if stores are being obtuse.
post #35 of 43
JaneB, boy do I feel your pain. I'm 5'0", but heavier than you (120 in gear), with a size 4.5 street shoe. I'm in 21.5 (length 255) Raichle Carvers (Jr boots -- now discontinued) that have been worked on and worked on and worked on. I had them cut down at the back (because I have wide calves for my foot length --- this was the issue that ruled out Lange juniors for me). They have foam injection liners, footbeds, and have also been planed to compensate for the forward lean.

I have to agree with everyone who said to try and find a good bootfitter -- if at all possible, a bootfitter on or near a ski hill. (That was my other huge problem. That was very very difficult for me, and I ended up at Surefoot, because they have a store in most major ski resorts, and I just kept adjusting and adjusting them.)

Good luck, and let us know what you end up with.
post #36 of 43
lange makes a 3.5 (266mm) that fits much smaller then a 22/265mm salomon. that boot is made in a jr and a few different lady options.
also a size 3 in ZA plug boot is the same lenght, just narrow, and a jr race fit

its about the smallest I have seen
post #37 of 43
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post
My daughter, a FIS racer, had real trouble finding 22.5 race boots early this season (coach was off at some camp at that point). She hit SEVEN stores and was really frustrated. When they couldn't fit her foot in a stiff enough boot, they were pushing her to junior boots or recreational boots. They just couldn't believe that a 5'3" girl weighing 120 pounds had the need for such stiff boots as she was demanding. Fortunately, I was able to reach her coach, who has contacts with reps from his days coaching the women's US team and he snagged her some boots. The best part is, they were pro-formed or something, all I know is they were half price from what you would normally pay. Our local bootfitter worked with her to grind them to a point where she is smiling and the charge was nominal.

The kicker is, even though she told these stores she was a racer and wanted stiff boots and told them the flex index, they didn't say "we can special order exactly what you need" to her until she suddenly had them in hand. Then all of a sudden we get this "oh, we could have gotten THOSE for you". Anyway, I'd call a local coach and ask for the reps phone numbers if stores are being obtuse.
It's these responses (from the shop employees) to customers needs/requests that can really frustrate me.: I can't tell you how many times I've been told:
"Oh, that's a real race ski, you'd like this one more."
"Oh, that skis really stiff."
"Have you tried the Fischer Superlite, it's a really great ski for women."

So, sometimes if I'm in a jovial mood I'll play with the employee , let him suggest what is right for me and proceed to bend the boot in half and tell him: "Oh, I think it's a little too soft, how about that Lange 150 up there, you know, the pretty blue one". Of course they never have it in my size...
post #38 of 43
CC: what size you want in WC 150's?
post #39 of 43
mtnlion: not sure what size I am in a Lange WC 150, I never did like the aggressive forward lean position, if that could be adjusted to a more upright stance like the Tecnica TNT series I'd be willing to try it. What size do you think I'd be, I measure a 23 mondopoint, I've tried the Tecnica Race Pro 130 in a 22 but the fit in the ankle area has changed from the XT so that's no good for me, also tried the Atomic red and white boot but in a 23 and needed to downsize.

Ideally I'd love a stiff boot with a high performance bladder, not a thin race bladder, and no foam bladders.
post #40 of 43
a lot of the lange WC F lean is the shims on the back of the liner, remove them and it is more upright, I dont sell technica so I can't compare them.

you need a size 22 or lange 3 for sure, 265ish mm boot.

any plug boot has the sock like liner, nature of the beast.

Again if you want I have the 100 W in 266mm, not as stiff as the 150WC, but not that soft really, Like a Xwave 8ish flex...
post #41 of 43
Thanks for the info. The Salomon boot you refer to was too soft for me so I don't think that Lange 100 W would be stiff enough.

Ah, the search continues...
post #42 of 43
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Originally Posted by JaneB View Post
Thanks for feedback. Although it was my own fault for not doing enough homework, is there any possibility that the shop may take the boots back?

BTW, my Lange L10's, junior race boots, are great in the heel but tight in the forefoot; to the point where toes are numb. How much can that area be blown out?
If the store sized you up, they ought to stand by their work.

You can blow out a boot ALOT, easily 3 widths eg B -> E.

Remember, you'll have to have the liner modified to take advantage of the extra room. The usual first step is liner, then boot. Aren't langes notorious for undersizing their liner? It may just be enough to have the liner changed or modified without changing the shell at all.

Who knows, if they give you store credit, you may be able to get a thermoflex liner and have all your problems solved!
post #43 of 43
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Originally Posted by CC View Post
Thanks for the info. The Salomon boot you refer to was too soft for me so I don't think that Lange 100 W would be stiff enough.

Ah, the search continues...
if the rush/Xwave 9 was too soft then a ZA will be too soft too (and the 100W too), ZB should be fine.

Canada is sold out for this year, but if you want one for next let me know
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