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post #1 of 20
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I am heading out to Utah on January 24 - January 28
(I have extensively used the search portion of this site to get great general info on Alta, Snowbird, Solitude, and Powder Mountain).
1. I wanted to ask how the current conditions are at Alta, Snowbird, Solitude. Specifically, how are the off-piste advanced areas looking? Are there any big storms on the horizon? From other posts, I am gathering it's a little colder than normal and the snow is shaping up but not quite there yet? I am also gathering that powder mountain's off-piste is definitely not there yet. Is this correct?

2. My buddy bailed bailed due to an injury. As a result, I am looking for someone to ski with. Personal Info: I'm 35, married, school teacher, and looking to ski off-piste, steep, powder. Any interest?- send me a pm.

3. Finally, Does anyone have a house or condo in Alta or Snowbird (on the shuttle route or within walking distance) that they world be interested in subletting me a room, couch, or even a floor space for my sleep mat? I am looking for check in on the 1/25 and check out on 1/28. I do not smoke, drink some beers but realistically will probably ski so hard I'll pass out by 9pm. Any interest?- send me a pm.

Thanks,

Asland
post #2 of 20
heard from a buddy of mine - who skied there this past weekend. he said - the snow was mediocre.

I don't see any new snow in the horizon.

take your rock skis.
post #3 of 20
I'm there in 10 days. Unfortunately, looks like little if any snow until then. Maybe some dribbles, but no major storms on horizon. I hope this is one of those situations where the computer models are wrong.
post #4 of 20
No no no damnit - the only correct answer is that there is a swirling unorganized mass of energy off the coast to the northwest that is going to organize itself and collide with the blower currently moving across Mexico into TX, which is itself going to be pushed north, by, uh, some other storm that has yet to be verifed, which will cause A PERFECT F'ING STORM that will dump copious amounts of snow.

Cats & dogs living together kind of storm.

Should hit Saturday and last through next week.
post #5 of 20
I vote Woodee's version.
post #6 of 20
This is sad...there's more snow falling right now in Austin than in SLC!! I'm coming up on Thursday (Wed flight was cancelled!), so hopefully I'll be bringing snow with me!
post #7 of 20
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Originally Posted by asland View Post
I am heading out to Utah on January 24 - January 28
(I have extensively used the search portion of this site to get great general info on Alta, Snowbird, Solitude, and Powder Mountain).
1. I wanted to ask how the current conditions are at Alta, Snowbird, Solitude. Specifically, how are the off-piste advanced areas looking? Are there any big storms on the horizon? From other posts, I am gathering it's a little colder than normal and the snow is shaping up but not quite there yet? I am also gathering that powder mountain's off-piste is definitely not there yet. Is this correct?
I was at snowbird and alta Fri 12th thru Sun 14th. It is very thin off-piste. There was 8" of new snow Friday morning. For most of the mtn, that was 8" on top of a hard layer plus is was just enough to cover the rocks.

The traverses are particularly rocky. So are moguls.

I definitely did some rock damage to my skis. Nothing fatal and no core shots. But petex is plenty grooved and the edge got allot of nicks.

I would 2nd the call for rock skis.
post #8 of 20
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Originally Posted by asland View Post
I am heading out to Utah on January 24 - January 28
2. My buddy bailed bailed due to an injury. As a result, I am looking for someone to ski with. Personal Info: I'm 35, married, school teacher, and looking to ski off-piste, steep, powder. Any interest?- send me a pm.

3. Finally, Does anyone have a house or condo in Alta or Snowbird (on the shuttle route or within walking distance) that they world be interested in subletting me a room, couch, or even a floor space for my sleep mat? I am looking for check in on the 1/25 and check out on 1/28. I do not smoke, drink some beers but realistically will probably ski so hard I'll pass out by 9pm. Any interest?- send me a pm.

Thanks,

Asland
Ok, so I've been doing my snow dance hoping conditions will improve with some fresh powder. : Thanks to everyone who shared the straight info on conditions

Any takers on
2. I am looking for someone to ski with.
3. Does anyone have a house or condo in Alta or Snowbird (on the shuttle route or within walking distance) that they world be interested in subletting me a room, couch, or even a floor space for my sleep mat?

thanks,

asland
post #9 of 20
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Originally Posted by asland View Post
Ok, so I've been doing my snow dance hoping conditions will improve with some fresh powder. : Thanks to everyone who shared the straight info on conditions

Any takers on
2. I am looking for someone to ski with.
3. Does anyone have a house or condo in Alta or Snowbird (on the shuttle route or within walking distance) that they world be interested in subletting me a room, couch, or even a floor space for my sleep mat?

thanks,

asland
Also check out Sandy, Midvale, etc. Many motels with nightly rates in the $50 range. Surely within your price range, no?

Plus you'd have your own bathroom, etc.
post #10 of 20
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Also check out Sandy, Midvale, etc. Many motels with nightly rates in the $50 range. Surely within your price range, no?
I actually have a place in SLC already but would MUCH rather be up at the mountains.

I grew up in Lake Placid, NY and travelled to a ton of ski towns on my junior olympic team. I love that ski town scene (walking around the ski area when it is quiet, going to that great bar, telling stories of the days conquest...).

I checked the peruvian, goldminers daughter, lodge... and all dorms either sold out or are only available only part of my stay. I might have been able to afford the dorm price but I was getting quotes like $200+ for a room. That's out of my league.

Thought I might find someone who needed the extra person to bring costs down or to replace a last minute bail. I'm low maintenance.

asland
post #11 of 20
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Originally Posted by asland View Post
I actually have a place in SLC already but would MUCH rather be up at the mountains.

I grew up in Lake Placid, NY and travelled to a ton of ski towns on my junior olympic team. I love that ski town scene (walking around the ski area when it is quiet, going to that great bar, telling stories of the days conquest...).

I checked the peruvian, goldminers daughter, lodge... and all dorms either sold out or are only available only part of my stay. I might have been able to afford the dorm price but I was getting quotes like $200+ for a room. That's out of my league.

Thought I might find someone who needed the extra person to bring costs down or to replace a last minute bail. I'm low maintenance.


asland
If you are looking for the ski town scene, then Alta is not the place to stay. Yes, the skiing is great, but the nightlife not so much. You would be better off in PC if you want that and driving to Alta. But, I may be wrong.

Good luck with the snow. I'll be out there 2nd week of March. Got almost 2 months to get some snow hopefully.
post #12 of 20
I've stayed there, but somehow Park City just doesn't qualify as much of a ski town to me, maybe there is too much traffic.... Maybe they are all getting like that, who knows?, i stay in midvale.

Utah is for Nerds
post #13 of 20
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Originally Posted by SnowbirdDevotee View Post
I've stayed there, but somehow Park City just doesn't qualify as much of a ski town to me, maybe there is too much traffic.... Maybe they are all getting like that, who knows?, i stay in midvale.

Utah is for Nerds
C'mon..if PC isn't a ski town then what is? Whistler where intrawest basically has it setup the way they want? I guess then that the old european ski towns like Chamonix are the only real ski towns...
post #14 of 20
I skied alta, solitude and the bird Jan 6-11. Early on the snow was thin in places but , with some work Alta skied pretty well (Gunsight off the high traverse and the wildcat area in general held the best/ coldest snow imho). I spent a few days at solitude--what a swell place-the trees held the cold snow longer than anywhere else I skied. Plus-with lean snow conditions it's nice to hit a place that takes a little more care of the snow (grooming becomes a lot more important) to give your feet a rest. Snowbird by the last day was pretty rugged (and coverage in spots ws poor--especially on the west facing ridge steeps (Wilbere Steeps et al.) were basically closed--best snow was way way way skiers right on the mineral basin, and to either side of the GAD 2 Chairs -look for shielded tree cover and north facing slopes!. Since then snow has been scarce and like the folks said-not much on the horizon...Alta and Snowbird get pretty tough in lean snow-I'd look to ski the more resort-ish places (again, you're going to need the groomers-some base level snowmaking and amenities). Solitude, the PC Areas, Snow basin-may serve upp a better experience (too bad though because Alta and the Bird is the whole reason to go to Utah!!!).

Good luck!
post #15 of 20
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Originally Posted by SnowbirdDevotee View Post
I've stayed there, but somehow Park City just doesn't qualify as much of a ski town to me, maybe there is too much traffic.... Maybe they are all getting like that, who knows?, i stay in midvale.

Utah is for Nerds
Says a lot if you prefer Midvale over PC.
post #16 of 20
There is a Stockli demo this weekend (20-21) at Sundance ski area, I'll be helping out if anyone wants to stop by and check some skis out. Oh yeah, some guy named Scot will be hanging around also...
post #17 of 20

question for powdr, or anyone

thanks for those great graphs. although i have some understanding of snow, i have no idea how much it takes to generate base (assuming its below freezing) for example, how much snow would it take to raise snowbirds base of 50" up to 80"? thanks I know there are a lot of variables, but just a rough guess)
post #18 of 20
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recipricol pass deal

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Originally Posted by Liam View Post
I skied alta, solitude and the bird Jan 6-11. Early on the snow was thin in places but , with some work Alta skied pretty well (Gunsight off the high traverse and the wildcat area in general held the best/ coldest snow imho). I spent a few days at solitude--what a swell place-the trees held the cold snow longer than anywhere else I skied. Plus-with lean snow conditions it's nice to hit a place that takes a little more care of the snow (grooming becomes a lot more important) to give your feet a rest. Snowbird by the last day was pretty rugged (and coverage in spots ws poor--especially on the west facing ridge steeps (Wilbere Steeps et al.) were basically closed--best snow was way way way skiers right on the mineral basin, and to either side of the GAD 2 Chairs -look for shielded tree cover and north facing slopes!. Since then snow has been scarce and like the folks said-not much on the horizon...Alta and Snowbird get pretty tough in lean snow-I'd look to ski the more resort-ish places (again, you're going to need the groomers-some base level snowmaking and amenities). Solitude, the PC Areas, Snow basin-may serve upp a better experience (too bad though because Alta and the Bird is the whole reason to go to Utah!!!).

Good luck!
I have Wachusett Mt (Eastern Massachusetts) Season pass as an incetive for bringing my school's ski program there. I just found out that they have a recipricol deal with Alta where I can get $26 tickets. That combined with the Superpass I picked up (buy two days - ski one free) it looks like I'll be spending my whole time in the LCC or BCC.

I'm looking forward to getting out there. This wednesday, when my trip begins is really sneaking up on me. Please keep the great info coming on snow conditions (through this thread or others) and keep in mind that

1. My buddy bailed so I am looking for someone to ski with. Interested?

2. Does anyone have a house or condo in Alta or Snowbird (on the shuttle route or within walking distance) that they world be interested in subletting me a room, couch, or even a floor space for my sleep mat? Any takers?

post #19 of 20
>how much snow would it take to raise snowbirds base of 50" up to 80"? thanks I know there are a lot of variables, but just a rough guess

DW, Go to alta.com snow report> snowfall history and you will see that they have received 165" of snowfall so far. When you consider that prime snowfall season runs from mid-nov to mid-april we are in Mid-Jan less than halfway through the season, the Cottonwoods are having an average season compared to what would be expected in most western resorts. So it ain't all that bad!! The base at Alta is 56", about 1/3 of snowfall. Last year I think they had thereabout 600" of snowfall and ended up with a base of 150"(I am sure some locals will finally chirp in with exact details). So "my" rough guess is 3 inches of snowfall for 1 inch of base. So you need about 100" of snowfall to increase the base 30", that should make it nice for my trip next month!
post #20 of 20
The shorter the time period of snowfall, the higher percentage will be added to the base. Alta's max season base last year being 25% of season snowfall is dead on with the 17 year average I have for that stat at Snowbird. But the maximum December base (16 year average) is 45% of November/December snowfall.

For an individual storm 50% is probably reasonable. So 60 inches of snow to raise the base from 50 to 80 inches. Individual storms vary quite a bit in Utah in water content. Higher is better for adding to the base, lower is better for faceshot powder. Average is 8.5% water (another 17-year Snowbird stat), but it can be 13% or it can be 4%.
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