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post #91 of 118
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Originally Posted by OldSchool View Post
Use of an actual hallucinogen results in the user believing that distortions in their perception of reality are real.
That's not necessarily true although it is sometimes hard to tell the difference. And THC is a mild hallucinogen. If you eat enough hash brownies you will hallucinate.
post #92 of 118
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Originally Posted by Cirquerider View Post
Returning this one to the collective with a request to stay on topic, avoid significant confessions of off-topic substances, and don't be someone elses buzz kill by getting into personal comments or arguments.


Carry on.

deleted? I wasn't even being that argumentative. however, I do apologize for "confessing" my sins. : and responding to off-topic discussions.
post #93 of 118
My feelings about pot/alcohol and skiing pretty much mirror my feelings about them in all other aspects of life. . . A little is fine, but don't overdo it unless you've got someone else to drive (and that includes piloting your skis). Overdoing it is subjective, of course. But if you tend to be an idiot about how much is too much in other aspects of life, then don't do it on the slopes. . . or bring friends who can stop you.

I have personally never smoked while skiing. (Although that is not to say that I don't have a personal history with mind-altering substances. Somehow they just never crossed paths with skiing. Concerts, yes. Hiking, yes. Early morning rope-swinging into rivers sans vetements, yes. All a long time ago. But skiing, no.) I do indulge in an occasional hot chocolate and Rumpleminz while skiing, however. Does it make my skiing better? Probably not. Do I feel better. Well, heck yeah. Am I careful after? Sure.

However, when I think back to my pot smoking days and consider my pot-smoking skier friends, I think one is likely more careful and cautious under the influence of weed than on alcohol. A little paranoia leads to slow movement and careful action. I have seen a lot scarier skiing after a couple of beers than after part of a spliff. The biggest danger my pot smoking skier friends have caused is a bit of littering when the munchies got out of hand on the lift and some secondhand stonedness on the Vista Bahn (Rasta Bahn?) back in the day, when it still had the wind screen/smoke bubble.
post #94 of 118
Hey, I think my post in this thread was deleted. Wow, I feel like such an outlaw. I'm going over to paula's or real skiers or DCSki and TGR and tell them all about it. I'm so proud, thanks Cirquerider. Now I have net cred.
post #95 of 118
Sorry LHC, I'd love to give you cred, but Lars deleted your post.
I'm pretty sure that Paulas would not be happy, you'd be banned at real skiers like me, and TGR would wonder what all the fuss was about and suggest you toke another one.
post #96 of 118

Has anyone been caught by the law or patrol while puffing on the hill?

Not to drag this tired thread out but...
Question:
Has anyone been caught by the law or patrol while puffing on the hill?

Winter of 2000...
Mineral Basin...
Blowing Snow...
White Out...
8-10" of fresh...

Puffing in the tress when a patrol zips by out of the blue...Pauses for a moment and says.." Busted ! Now you have to give me your stash"..."Ha..Ha.. just kidding. Enjoy!"

It reassured the fact that this is at least partially accepted by the skiing community.
post #97 of 118
Lordy so much contraversy over such minor sh!t. To each thier own. If you enjoy a hoot while you ski...do it. Personally I'm plenty high already in knee deep pow. I'm not saying I've never indulged while skiing, but I don't any more... as a matter of fact I don't indulge anymore period.

We live in a free country...yeah yeah smoking pot is illegal, barely anymore in Canada. At least the legal system here is realizing their spending too much time and effort and resources trying to bust the recreational pot smoker. There is just too much really bad sh!t out there to waste time on people smoking doobs on the ski hill... we got child molestors, murderers, rapists all kinds of scum out there that are a real threat to decent people...why not spend our law enforcement $ dealing with them and not the pot smoking dredlocked skier or boarder toking on the chairlift.

The Good Ole Republican's south of the border have a rellay good handle on things...They protect the right to own a Howitzer of any Good Ol' boy who belongs to the NRA... but will try to lock the pot smokin' hippy who puffs one and sits in front of his stereo blasting Pink Floyd...What a country...you go George!!

...sorry for the political rant, but as always JMHO
post #98 of 118
I have issues with being able to skiing straight even when I am not intoxicated from whatever source.

On top of that, I have asthma so I have had to give up smoking anything (including my beloved cigars). At 12,000 feet I have a hard enough time getting air without aggravating the situation.

As a libertine libertarian I don't have a problem with other's toking as long as they are riding safely and not posing a threat to themselves or others.

To each their own...
post #99 of 118
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Originally Posted by thexcop View Post
Not to drag this tired thread out but...
Question:
Has anyone been caught by the law or patrol while puffing on the hill?

Winter of 2000...
Mineral Basin...
Blowing Snow...
White Out...
8-10" of fresh...

Puffing in the tress when a patrol zips by out of the blue...Pauses for a moment and says.." Busted ! Now you have to give me your stash"..."Ha..Ha.. just kidding. Enjoy!"

It reassured the fact that this is at least partially accepted by the skiing community.
You might have an issue if you are doing this next to the local county sheriff or the NFS park ranger, but I don't the patrol at most places will bother you for anything other than a hit off your spliff....
post #100 of 118

Hey I have another question...

I noticed some of the earlier posts on this thread referring to Tommy Moe, Tanner Hall, etc. in connection with wicked weed and competiton. Also have seen a few references to Bode in this regard. So here's the question:

Does anybody know at what level of competition they test for substances at and what things they test for? Is there a website for this, FIS, college, professional, etc?

I'm thinking professional freeskiing events, pipe and park, etc. might be a little less rigorous. But I would be really surprised if THC is not part of the test panel for World Cup athletes. If Bode was lighting it up as much as some here seem to imply, my expectation is that he is having his dog pee in the cup for him.
post #101 of 118
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Originally Posted by Ferniefreeheels View Post
Lordy so much contraversy over such minor sh!t. To each thier own. If you enjoy a hoot while you ski...do it. Personally I'm plenty high already in knee deep pow. I'm not saying I've never indulged while skiing, but I don't any more... as a matter of fact I don't indulge anymore period.

We live in a free country...yeah yeah smoking pot is illegal, barely anymore in Canada. At least the legal system here is realizing their spending too much time and effort and resources trying to bust the recreational pot smoker. There is just too much really bad sh!t out there to waste time on people smoking doobs on the ski hill... we got child molestors, murderers, rapists all kinds of scum out there that are a real threat to decent people...why not spend our law enforcement $ dealing with them and not the pot smoking dredlocked skier or boarder toking on the chairlift.

The Good Ole Republican's south of the border have a rellay good handle on things...They protect the right to own a Howitzer of any Good Ol' boy who belongs to the NRA... but will try to lock the pot smokin' hippy who puffs one and sits in front of his stereo blasting Pink Floyd...What a country...you go George!!

...sorry for the political rant, but as always JMHO
Fernie: Thanks. You just saved me a lot of typing. Couldn't agree more.

I haven't toked and skied (or toked anything) in about 35 years. But, that doesn't mean it wasn't fun for awhile. I eventually found the mountain rush more appealing than the loopy stoner feeling.

But, to spend zillions targeting kids flaming a dooby, just because it's an easy bust and looks good on the budget, is loopy beyond belief.

All that good-ol-boy, NRA, militant John Wayne attitude gets old fast.
post #102 of 118
I like to blaze. I have for years.
I've only recently gotten into skiing in my late twenties and have smoked and ski'd many times. Its a great feeling because at the slopes you're supposed to be on vacation, its supposed to be a carefree place where you forget about the office and life and all that so I've never seen anything wrong with smoking for the couple hours that I'm on the mountain. just goes hand in hand- like being at a ballgame and having a beer.
here in so-cal we're lucky because we can get it legal. open up a "city beat" weekly news rag and you'll find a variety of doctors offering scripts.
I've been getting mine legally for a few years now for my "migraines" and its a beatiful thing. sometimes I surf and smoke too (I have friends that swear by it) but I find my performance is reduced a little. the ocean can be a lot more intense environment than a ski slope- you gotta paddle out there, fight for waves etc. its a lot of work. unless its a warm, lazy summer day I rarely smoke and surf but I always like to smoke before cruising down a ski slope. its just really relaxing taking the lift up then cruising down the hill. then taking the lift up again, looking around at all the beautiful mountains and trees etc.. and skiing down the mountain again.
post #103 of 118
I can agree with weed being better than alcohol. One question though, are you guys talking about sharing a joint on the lift up, or everybody chips in for an once and rolls thier own blunt? I can see myself with the joint, two or three hits, just enough that music sounds better. Anymore than that and I don't think I would enjoy it.
post #104 of 118
I've been thinking about this subject and reading it for 4 pages, basically because I have to and possibly through curiosity. I have an opinion about skiing and pot smoking. It's much different than the days when my friends and I would roll out of the van after an hour long drive and 3 joints at the lift of our favorite Resort and ski the same 3 mogul runs all night long.

I look back at those days with fondness, some good memories and what times those were. Didn't know anything different. Most of those days included a few joints during the day reguardless if we were skiing or not. Now in my older years, I'd give all my bank account to have those days back. They were a blur in my life. Waisted days and nights. No wonder they say life goes by so quickly. Most of those years spent in a Purple Haze have little meaning to me anymore. I laugh about it with others but it really was a sad part of my life. I didn't know it at the time but what a waist. Yup, from High School through 2 failed marriages and alot of waisted money. How stupid was that.

No preaching here from me just facts. Various sorts of recreational drugs, mostly weed, sapped my resources, my youth, my ambition, my social status and most of all, my self respect. I never had much of anything until I finally gave it all up. Everything I have today, my family, my career, my reputation in the Construction field, all my worldly belongings I have gained since quiting drugs. I still sit back and wonder what the hell was I thinking about all those years?

To the question of skiing and pot smoking, to get back on topic, at the time I really didn't think it affected the quality of my skiing. Of course, all we did was ski moguls then. Can't remember skiing much groomed stuff. I do remember a constant feeling of paranoia though.
post #105 of 118
I am getting a kick out of some of these terms though.

A "Blunt"

I like the "Blaze" comment.
post #106 of 118
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Originally Posted by viking kaj View Post
[snip]

I'm thinking professional freeskiing events, pipe and park, etc. might be a little less rigorous. But I would be really surprised if THC is not part of the test panel for World Cup athletes. If Bode was lighting it up as much as some here seem to imply, my expectation is that he is having his dog pee in the cup for him.
Ross Rebagliati says they do.
post #107 of 118
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Originally Posted by Lars View Post
I've been thinking about this subject...
This seems like an outlier of an experience/life phase...are you sure your use of marijuana wasn't a symptom of a deeper problem? I know a lot of people who smoke weed that couldn't be happier, more successful, have better families, or have more self respect and respect for others. And they remember almost everything about yesterday or ten years ago.

I guess things affect people differently. Just a counter-point to your experience. Glad you got things turned around for your self, that's what really matters.
post #108 of 118
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Originally Posted by Mike Aswell View Post
This seems like an outlier of an experience/life phase...are you sure your use of marijuana wasn't a symptom of a deeper problem? I know a lot of people who smoke weed that couldn't be happier, more successful, have better families, or have more self respect and respect for others. And they remember almost everything about yesterday or ten years ago.

I guess things affect people differently. Just a counter-point to your experience. Glad you got things turned around for your self, that's what really matters.
Like many who were children of the sixties living under the fear of nuclear extinction,surviving VietNam and it's aftermath, I'm sure I had some issues within my thought capacity and drugs helped me escape . Combined with segregation, race riots, and a revolution movement, it was the thing to do.

As far as those you speak of who are happy and successful with better families. I question if they are truely happy when they feel the need to get high to enjoy life.I also doubt their families give their full approval of their drug abuse and if they do know about it I doubt they feel blessed by it. It's hard to see the harm it causes until you step away from it for some years in retrospect. I certainly discourage it's use even for recreational purposes. Nothing good can come from it.
post #109 of 118
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Originally Posted by Lars View Post
Nothing good can come from it.
quit your waffling already.
post #110 of 118
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Originally Posted by Lars View Post
Like many who were children of the sixties living under the fear of nuclear extinction,surviving VietNam and it's aftermath, I'm sure I had some issues within my thought capacity and drugs helped me escape . Combined with segregation, race riots, and a revolution movement, it was the thing to do.

As far as those you speak of who are happy and successful with better families. I question if they are truely happy when they feel the need to get high to enjoy life.I also doubt their families give their full approval of their drug abuse and if they do know about it I doubt they feel blessed by it. It's hard to see the harm it causes until you step away from it for some years in retrospect. I certainly discourage it's use even for recreational purposes. Nothing good can come from it.
Would you say it's okay to "recreationally" drink a beer after a Friday at the office? Or do these people need alcohol to make their reality more pallatable? Do you know people who drink recreationally who are happy with their life? I do. And I don't see a difference. Except alcohol can't be grown and is easily regulated and taxed, so we're conditioned to believe it is okay to use recreationally but that marijuana is not.
post #111 of 118
Also, to clarify, I am not talking about people who need to be high to enjoy life, but people who enjoy occassionally using marijuana. And enjoy life sober on a regular basis.
post #112 of 118
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Originally Posted by Lars View Post
As far as those you speak of who are happy and successful with better families. I question if they are truely happy when they feel the need to get high to enjoy life.I also doubt their families give their full approval of their drug abuse and if they do know about it I doubt they feel blessed by it. It's hard to see the harm it causes until you step away from it for some years in retrospect. I certainly discourage it's use even for recreational purposes. Nothing good can come from it.
Say Lars if you were really pressed for a true answer would you say that everyone has to experience pot the same way you do or do you recognize that people have different responses to pot smoking what I mean is can you imagine that someone else might smoke pot for different reasons than the ones you used for your own pot smoking when you were younger for example mind expansion and relaxation because ya gotta realize there are other cultures around the world where pot is legal and adults use it without their society falling apart ya know?
post #113 of 118
As I said in a previous post I no longer smoke pot or do any other recreational drugs. I'm not sure when the last time I smoked a joint really was...but it's gotta be 15-20 years. I did the evil weed through high school and into my early? mid 20's. I never did wake up one morning and say to myself, "Self, it's time you quit doing drugs..." I just kinda moved on is all. Out grew it?? Started hanging with different people and doing different things. Many people I hang with today still enjoy the odd hoot... I don't care, to each their own.

Probably why I did quit is I really never did enjoy pulling hot smoke into my lungs..cough! cough! But I certainly enjoyed getting buzzed.

When I look back I see great memories. I don't say to myself '...if I could go back in time I would change this and that'. I wouldn't change a thing. Everything I've done in the past has molded me into the person I am today. No, I'm certainly not perfect...but I like who and what I am.
post #114 of 118
It really doesn't matter what I think does it? I merely gave my opinion on the subject matter. My perspective doesn't mean anyone has to follow or believe what I think. We're all individuals, we can all decide for ourselves. As far as skiing goes, I worry less about a skier under the influence of pot than a skier who's had a few drinks. Same thing with a car.

We can all form our own opinion and go with it. That's the nice thing about a forum. Everyone gets a chance to give theirs.
post #115 of 118
Quote by Ferniefreeheels, When I look back I see great memories. I don't say to myself '...if I could go back in time I would change this and that'. I wouldn't change a thing. Everything I've done in the past has molded me into the person I am today. No, I'm certainly not perfect...but I like who and what I am.

I feel the same way.
post #116 of 118
"Pot is to the ski industry what beer is to softball." mtbakerskier

So funny, and so true.
post #117 of 118
I know I'm going to twist a few for the lifts this weekend in big bear.

the snow, the mountain and all the people up there might suck but I'll still be having a good time.
post #118 of 118
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Does anyone either:
  1. Smoke pot primarily while skiing/riding but infrequently otherwise?
  2. Smoke pot on a semi regular basis (few times a month or more) but not while skiing/riding?
I'm definitely a number two here. Smoking makes me much too paranoid to do something as "serious" as skiing. Watching skiing (like World Cup races, for example) stoned is pretty cool, though. I occasionally have a beer near the end of the home run at the end of the day, but I couldn't imagine doing any real skiing with alcohol in my system.
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