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Seeking opinions B4 I buy new skis

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I am a 50 yr old - 5'9" - 170 lbs - who has just started to get back to skiing the last few years (kids are old enuf to show an interest). Most of skiing was back in my 20's and early 30's.

My last purchased skis were in the 80's - Olin Mark IVs.

Over the last 4 years I have rented the new skis - and they have certainly helped my technique.

I am best described as a skiier who can get down any blue trail fairly effortlessly - and look like I belong. I can get down most black trails (single - not double diamond) - but don't look pretty doing it. Nonetheless, I enjoy the challenge - and have to do it if I am going to have slope time with my 13 year old twin boys - whose technique has swifltly outstripped mine. My boys and I take lessons on every ski trip.

BTW - I ski on the east coast.

I have read reviews and looked at some of the posts on this forum, as well. I have narrowed my choices down to the Elan Magfire 10, Fischer RX6 FTI, and Salomon Crossmax V.

Any input will be appreciated.

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Noidel, welcome. For an intermediate skier seeking short to medium radius turns, and looking to advance their carving technique, the RX6 seems like a nice ski. There is pretty good shape there and a relatively forgiving flex with good edge grip. The ski can carve, but won't kick you into next week if you choose to slip some turns. That should help when the conditions get steeper and harder. I didn't read anything in your post that suggested powder skiing capability is a priority, so that would be my pick as an eastern ski. I think you would like this in 165 or 170, with longer lengths favored if you are comfortable at higher cruising speed and smooth slopes.

The magfire 10 is wider throughout with a 75 mm waist and has a lot of turn shape in it (similar to Metron). This could be a really fun ski if you intention is to carve short radius turns. I'm sure this ski can slip old-school turns, but is not going to be the best use. From your description, I think you would find a ski with this much shape more difficult in bumps and if your turn shape sometimes incorporates slip. I don't know enough about the Crossmax to have an opinion.
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Noidal, Welcome back to skiing, a lot of changes in equipment over the past 10 yrs. Take the recommendations here on Epic but don't buy anything until you demo that ski you like. My opinion is VERY strong on no one can tell you what ski is best for You because you are different than everyone else, you will ski different, balance different, recover differently and your sweetspot on a ski will be different from others. Yes take the recommendation and then go Demo at least 4 different ski's and then you will know what YOU like, it will be really obvious to your body and ability when you are on the Right ski. Good luck and have fun doing the demo's. Pete
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I totally agree with Pete - the time and effort (and limited cost) of trying a variety of skis is worth it. You'll know it when you're on the ski that suits you best. The skis that you have listed sound like they are a good fit, but you really won't know other than from trying them in the conditions that you prefer usually.
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Thread Starter 
Thanks for your feedback, Cirque.

I have never experienced the western powder - and if I do travel out there I would just pack my boots and rent the appropriate skis for a powder beginner - so your comments are on target for my ski reality.

I'm not sure how to interpret a "slip" turns and "old-school slip turns".

Does that mean when you spend a little time sliding down the slope with your skis perpendicular to the slope at the tail-end of a turn?

If that is what it is - and the RX6 can help cure me of that - it would fit the bill. I understand that I may pay a short-term price in spills :-)

While I don't seek out pure mogul runs - I do have to deal with the ones that naturally develop on black runs (and they can get quite large). So perhaps the Magfire would require a bit too much pain for the gain.

Thanks for pointing out the subtle distinctions between these two skis.
post #6 of 7
Thread Starter 
Thanks, Pete & Alberto.

I was composing my reply to Cirque while your posts were coming in ...

I have rented several different skis over the last few years. I think that I will combine the advice I have received thus far and try to rent the Fischer RX6 before pulling the trigger on a purchase. I probably should have been keeping notes on my past rental experiences - but hey, that would have been the smart thing to do!

Thanks again.
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Both the RX6 and Magfire are carving skis that can meet your needs now and produce higher levels of performance as you advance your skills. There is more shape in the Magfire. A ski with more shape tends to hook up, and can be more difficult to release off its edge if you are not familiar with that. Being able to slip without the ski hooking up is usually easier for intermediate skiers. Even experts will use slip to ski moguls. Both skis you identified are excellent. I would think the Fischer AMC 73 would be closer in performance to the Magfire ski. There are many other skis that would be suitable, and fortunately there are very few "bad" skis out there.

As much as I'd like to recommend that you demo skis, the reality is the opportunity to do so is very limited and has been getting harder to do in recent years due to the cost to the retailer, distributor and customer for that matter; and rental/ demos are expensive and not always representative of the ski's potential because they are usually generically (often poorly) tuned. With no qualification at all, I suspect (read wild guess) maybe 2% to 5% of skiers at the outside ever demo the ski they will buy. If you are willing to mention where you normally ski, some members may be able to direct you to a location for obtaining demo skis. It might be worth a shot. Meanwhile, I suspect most customers rely on the information provided by a retailer (especially those that actually ski their line), and reviews on sites like EpicSki and Peter Keelty and in the magazines.
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