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Hockey Stop?

post #1 of 13
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Can anyone give some pointers on how exactly to form a hockey stop instead of a snow plow??

Usually I snow plow to stop at the bottom of the hill, but that becomes exhausting after a bit....
post #2 of 13
It helps if you are already used to getting on corresponding edges and finishing your turns with a parallel skid, so practice that first.

Before you try to hockey stop, try turning with a wedge/snowplay the way you are but finish your turn up the hill to stop and stead of making your wedge wider. Do you snowplow/wedge turn in a very narrow wedge and keep turning until you skis are point across or even up the hill. You will come to a stop. Gradually try to do it sharper and sharper. You should start to get some skid and if your skis are in a narrow wedge, they should eventually start to get parallel (get on corresponding edges) and skid together.

Now, if you really want to hockey stop....

Get your skis parallel and ski straight down the fall line.
Stand very tall (extend) and lean a tad forward.
Quickly push both heels to one side while sinking your butt down fast.
You should stop in a skid with both skis parallel across the hill.
post #3 of 13
Oh the PMTS guys will have a field day with that.

I do something similar but when I am going straight down the hill, I start in a low position and start turning the skis while I'm rising up to a tall position. Once the skis have turned out of the fall line, then I sink down to finish the turn. I set the edge angles into the hill according to how fast I want to stop or how much snow I want to spray. One key difference is that I turn my feet with the pivot point under my feet. Pushing the heels out is not as efficient.

I believe the PMTS way to do a hockey stop simply has you lift and tilt to start the turn as normal, but you force the stance ski to stay on a low edge angle to skid. I could be wrong, but I believe this was described in another thread.
post #4 of 13
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Originally Posted by therusty View Post
I turn my feet with the pivot point under my feet.
This is critical!

You can do it if the "pivot point" is the "balance point". Does that make sense?
post #5 of 13
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Originally Posted by purduegrad03 View Post
Can anyone give some pointers on how exactly to form a hockey stop instead of a snow plow??

Usually I snow plow to stop at the bottom of the hill, but that becomes exhausting after a bit....
Why do either? Just turn uphill...
post #6 of 13
Helps if you learn how to do it playing hockey (or at least on ice skates) first. Same deal, pretty much, especially if you are holding a stick. Idea is to keep your stick out in front of you while you stop--just like you'll want to keep your hands/poles out in front of you.
post #7 of 13
purduegrad03,

My mom was a Prudue grad and my sister went there. As stated above, the "snow plow" is not ment for stopping. Skiers turn to stop. A wedge stop is making a gliding wedge turn until the ski turns up hill to a stop. A hockey stop is a pivot turn (with both skis) 90 deg. or so to the hill until the edges engage to stop you. You need to allign the body so you can pivot both skis under you and then use a sinking motion slightly into the hill to engage the skis. The up movement mentioned in the posts above allow the body to allign and flatten the skis so they can both be pivoted.


TR---are PMTS guys allowed to pivot??

RW
post #8 of 13
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Why do either? Just turn uphill...
Actually it seems to me that a hockey stop is an important part of a skiers toolkit that people should learn sooner than they generally do: a lot of problems people have with learning to carve etc is being afraid of speed, and one way to address that is to teach them how to stop, NOW, whenever they want. It's also good to learn because it can't be done slowly or tentatively.
post #9 of 13
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TR---are PMTS guys allowed to pivot??
Not when any of us or Harald is watching
post #10 of 13
Practicing a side slip and controlling your edges as you slide might be a good place to start.
post #11 of 13
Here is an idea, try practicing a hockey stop with no skis on....same motion, similar to a baseball slide (not the kind that you slide on your inside knee). Make sure you have a slick enough surface so that you dont end up hurting yoruself.
post #12 of 13
You just need to pivot your skis slightly, then dig in the tips while unloading the tails and let the snow pivot them around the rest of the way to 90 degrees. Practice side slipping down the hill first so you'll know what to do once they get to 90 degrees.
post #13 of 13
Check out Snowpro's video on the big toe and dorsiflexion. If you are utilizing a wedge, you most likely are not releasing the inside ski. If you can't/don't release the inside ski, you're not going to perform a hockey stop (unless you lift the inside ski as many people do). The inside ski will not come around if it's on it's big toe side.
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