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Killington vs. Okemo, re: terrain open - nasty website:
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1/11/07 at 12:03pm
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I'm shocked at this revelation that the snow report pages for a mega-resort in Vermont might not be entirely accurate.
: Marketing people using under-handed tactics in an attempt to get more business? Non-truthful snow report pages? What is this world coming to???
: Marketing people using under-handed tactics in an attempt to get more business? Non-truthful snow report pages? What is this world coming to???
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1/11/07 at 12:04pm
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Haha, yeah. Pot calling the kettle black?
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1/11/07 at 1:23pm
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Most skiers look at more than one snow report to determine the status or skiability of their destination mountain. Hence, if Okemo is doctoring their snow report, people will notice pretty soon. I mean if every nearby mountain cites base snow pack at 6-12", and they come in with 12-18"; everyone will suspect it's an exagerated report. Gordo nyc
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1/11/07 at 2:29pm
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I'm just glad that the West does not partake in this BS fest. You just don't hear about 'most this', 'most that' around here. Well, maybe Vail(tm), but nobody believes them anyway.
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1/11/07 at 10:20pm
That's because it snows in the west.
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1/11/07 at 10:36pm
From Okemo.com:
"Okemo presently has the highest percentage of terrain open, compared to all major* ski resorts in New England.
*Major is defined as ski resorts offering more than 300 skiable acres when 100% open."
Loon Mtn: 275 Acres
Pat's Peak: 22 TRAILS & SLOPES --no way more than 300 acres
Crotched Mtn: approx. 75 acres
Okemo: 620 acres
and okemonotorious.com is so reliable it doesnt even bother to read the fine print.If someone's backyard had 4 inches of snow on it, they'd probably put it on that list
"Okemo presently has the highest percentage of terrain open, compared to all major* ski resorts in New England.
*Major is defined as ski resorts offering more than 300 skiable acres when 100% open."
Loon Mtn: 275 Acres
Pat's Peak: 22 TRAILS & SLOPES --no way more than 300 acres
Crotched Mtn: approx. 75 acres
Okemo: 620 acres
and okemonotorious.com is so reliable it doesnt even bother to read the fine print.If someone's backyard had 4 inches of snow on it, they'd probably put it on that list
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1/12/07 at 4:27am
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If only that were true....I remember several times over the years where resorts in Utah and Colorado, for mostly summer seasons, where pics of the Tetons were used in their print ads. It's not a west vs east thing, it's an unethical vs ethical thing.
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1/12/07 at 7:26am
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Wow a marketing department from one ski area creating a secret negative website attacking a neighboring ski area. Who would have thunk it.
With very warm weather and no snow, times are tough on the east coast for ski areas. Some Marketing departments have way too much time on their hands and they get a little too inventive.
Check this very funny thread out
Ski Magazine a few yeas back commented how Belleayre, Hunter, and Windham don't get along. Looks like Killington and Okemo have taken their fight to a whole new level.
Amazing how fast things happen on the internet. You will probably see this on CNN by the end of the day if it has any kind of credibility.
With very warm weather and no snow, times are tough on the east coast for ski areas. Some Marketing departments have way too much time on their hands and they get a little too inventive.
Check this very funny thread out
Ski Magazine a few yeas back commented how Belleayre, Hunter, and Windham don't get along. Looks like Killington and Okemo have taken their fight to a whole new level.
Amazing how fast things happen on the internet. You will probably see this on CNN by the end of the day if it has any kind of credibility.
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1/12/07 at 10:47am
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If only that were true....I remember several times over the years where resorts in Utah and Colorado, for mostly summer seasons, where pics of the Tetons were used in their print ads. It's not a west vs east thing, it's an unethical vs ethical thing.
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1/12/07 at 6:02pm
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Oh yeah, the dreaded double blacks! What are they trying to say? That some of their advanced terrain is more difficult than the rest? I think I saw it first at Jackson Hole, although they used a yellow triangle instead of double diamonds.
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1/13/07 at 7:55pm
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Oh yeah, the dreaded double blacks! What are they trying to say? That some of their advanced terrain is more difficult than the rest? I think I saw it first at Jackson Hole, although they used a yellow triangle instead of double diamonds.
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The sign is there, or used to be, where the traverse went into the trees from Wide Open and there were some steep lines with trees, but not Alta chutes or Tower 3 steep, off to the right in the beginning of the traverse but you end up at some intermediate terrain with a big boulder at the end. Side step over the rock and you have before you some sweet not very steep open terrain.
Back in the day the whole area was just Moran Face but I see they have 3 or 4 new trail names in there. Even tho it avalanched once and killed a ski patroller, TR RIP, ski patrollers out west risk their lives almost everyday to make the slopes safe to ski for the rest of us. I always felt it was very safe terrain and the yellow sign was up way before that happened.
Like I have said several times this stuff happens east, west, every region. How do you think folks in JH felt when we heard, Big Sky had claimed a vert bigger than JH. It was circa 1995, It was and still is a total scam. Personally I felt alot better when Snowmass built a new lift and thus gained a legitimate higher vert. JH was no longer "the Big One", we got over it. I don't think anyone, certainly not the VP of Marketing, would post a secretly hosted website bashing their compeitor. That's what Killington did. Bad, bad...ASC. :lol: A Utah company..:wink:
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