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post #1 of 28
Thread Starter 
Tom Nolasco's thread about boutique skis caused me to list the growing tide of low number, out-of-the-mainstream skis that are appearing. What have I missed?
Armada, Movement, Pale, LibTech, Vist, High Society, Praxis, Zag, Kingswood, Nava, Blossom, Black Thunder, Duret, Bogner, Line, ScottyBob, 4FRNT, Wally, Claw, DB, Lightningboards, Moment
post #2 of 28
Goode, Scott skis, Bros, Odyssey.
post #3 of 28
http://www.exoticskis.com/

4FRNT Skis: Canada
AK Ski: USA
Aluflex Skis: France Twin binding monoski too...
AME Skis France Handmade telemark, touring and Sky Surfing (parachute skiing skis!) skis. Wood, carbon, honeycomb, kevlar ingredients. Made by Vincent.
Amplid Skis & Boards Germany Very light, high-tech designs. Spline bezier curve sidecuts. Nice T-shirts.
Armada Skis USA
Asnes Skis Norway Mostly XC
Axunn Skis France 2 ambitious and provocative young guys (formerly from Dynamic and Oxbow) designing hi-tech skis right in the ski-resort of Chamrousse (near Grenoble, France). They only draw shapes and designs (produced on demand in eastern Europe or China). They will soon use nanotubes in their skis (like in tennis racquets).
Backside Skis & Snowboards France

Manufacturer Quote:
"My own production made out of ash / maple home made wood cores and designed for big mountains as what I'm used to ski / board at home in La Grave - Hautes-Alpes - France - 4 prototypes of the "Trifide 0" (named after a famous couloir here) will be available for testing at the 6° edition of the Swallowmania / Powder Skis in La Grave (10-11 / 02 / 07). More infos on www.swallowmania.com If everything goes right, more models should be available by spring / summer 2007 as well as snowboards too ..."
Black Crows Skis: France Big Mountain and Backcountry skis available by Fall 2006.
Black Diamond Skis USA
Blacksmith Skis: France No website, (old domain at www.blacksmith-snow.com is dead) but they have buyer guide listings for 2007 of snowboards and skis at SnoPass. Rumored to also manufacture for some very small designers. Any info..please forward to us.
Boheme Skis: France (demised domain was http://www.boheme.fr/)
Birdos Skis: Switzerland Making skis for big mountain riding and off piste jibbing. All skis available with custom stiffness and construction. Designed, Tested and Built in Andermatt, in the Heart of the Swiss Alps.
Blade Skis Italy (SG and Downhill models too)
Black Thunder Skis Italy Skis and bikes. Custom graphics available
Blossom Skis: Italy (from the Valchiavenna region in Italy)
Blizzard Skis: Austria OK, not really exotic...but similar in miniscule market share in North America like Stockli...so it gets included here...great race skis. Sturdy.
Blue Morris Skis Japan (The bull which accomplishes evolution from history and the technological innovation which exceed 80 years - Morris ??) Includes HAKKODA, BXB, YUKIITAYA & THESKI@STRICKTLY brands.
Bstinger Skis: USA ( "learning skis" - 108cm in length Tip width 10cm, tail width 8.2cm, sidecut 0cm, bindings mounted at the back of the ski...)
BumTribe Powder Skis: France These guys also make Ridea skis...
Capital Custom Skis: Canada ("they like 'em WIDE")
Circle Skis: Germany (demised domain was http://www.circle-ski.de/)
Conte Skis: no URL available...any info???
Defi Skis: USA
Donek Skis: USA (30 day money-back guarantee - ash core, full wrap edges. more than 130 snowboard models/lengths? Bagpipe-playing President/CEO)
DP Skis: USA (Drake Powderworks LLC) Lotus 138 appears to have narrower tip and tail than mid-foot. Pintails..other design innovations. Evolution of the Tabula Rasa and Spatula ski designs. Carbon skis. Reservations for models. 1% for the planet.
Canon Snowboards: Canada
Claw Skis USA
Drakeboinay custom skis USA (sort of) (demised domain used to be http://www.dbskis.com/)
Duel Skis: Italy Race skis, allaround skis - VIST Speedlock plates
Duret Skis France (Since 1925)
Eckhard Skis: Austria
Edelwiser custom skis Austria Design your own skis ! Send files via Internet!
Evolution Skis USA (demised domain used to be http://www.evoski.com/)
Erbacher Skis Germany (demised domain used to be http://www.erbacher-ski.de/)
Extrem skis Sweden
Faction Skis Switzerland
FatMonoBoards France
Fat-Ypus Skis USA "Is there a doctor in the house?...Cuz these skis are Sick..." 140mm waist, big mountain, big powder board. Poplar core. Twin-tip powder model available. Nice picture gallery. T shirts and poster in their on-line store.
Five Axis USA Snowboards
Flo Skis USA Innovative short-tail (120-140-160cm) ski with radical binding riser-block geometry and oil-dampened, nickle-plated lead shot damper device. Bindings mounted near the rear of the ski. Claims to potentially reduce ACL injuries. Ski is hardwood core with carbon fiber flex beam and fiberglass. Movie clips, testimonials. Designed and patented by former aerospace engineer, currently a Vail Instructor.
Force Industries Australia Skis, snowboards, kiteboards, bodyboards..BOARDS!
G3 (Genuine Guide Gear) Skis Canada
Germinaski Skis Germany

Goode Skis: USA
Hagan Austria
Hart Skis: USA (Limited production of "orignal spec" Javelin model for "retro" skiers)
Hendryx Skis: Sweden "Surfy Style" skis w/guest artist graphics
High Society Freeride Skis USA Maple-aspen core w/carbon fiber stringer & rubber
Icelantic AT Boards: USA
IDoneSki Skis: Japan
Igneous Skis: USA
Indigo Freeride Germany Bamboo?
J-Kobo Skis: Italy Race skis - SL, GS, SuperG..
Jagaball Skis: Germany
Karhu USA Not just XC skis...Big Mountain and other skis...
KEI-Ski Garage: Japan
Kessler1 Snowboards Switzerland The raceboard used by nearly half of the WorldCup. 5
out of 6 olympic medals in the speed events. True Custom Snowboards and Skis. Only 200 boards produced just 3 years ago, but nearly halve of the WorldCup uses them. (submitted description)
Kingswood Skis New Zealand Kingswood is pioneering the use of bamboo for ski cores. 2 Year warranty.
Kneissl Skis: Austria Oldie, but goodie..Kneissl was founded in 1919. Kneissl has sold off its Raichle, Deeluxe and Dachstein brands in 2003.
Kootenay Powdersticks: Canada
Lacroix/Lagriffe Skis (U.S.) France Lacroix family product sold in the U.S. - sold as "Lagriffe" in Europe.
Lagriffe ( Ludovic Lacroix ) = http://www.skislagriffe.com = http://www.skis-lacroix.com = http://www.skislacroix.com
Lacroix Skis (France) Slovenia Non-Lacroix family product
(also sold as Royal Chamonix skis in the U.S.)
SKis Lacroix france ( Bertrand Roy ) = http://www.lacroix-ski.fr = http://www.ski-lacroix.com = http://www.ski-lacroix.fr = http://www.Lacroix-skis.com = http://www.Lacroix-skis. fr = http://www.Lacroix-ski.fr
Lib Technologies USA Snowboards and "NAS" (Narrow Ass Snowboards) ["are they skis yet? - you be the judge"] from Mervin Mfg. They also make GNU snowboards, Bent Metal bindings, Roxy Hardgoods...etc..
Liberty Skis USA "We have been utilizing bamboo in our cores for over a year in conjunction with profiled poplar and other materials.
Check out our Larose Pro Model. It also comes as a limited edition with the bamboo and poplar core as well as specially treated bamboo sidewalls for durability and pop. We also feature special oversized edges we designed and had manufactured for us with treatments to prevent fatigue and corrosion. All of our skis are wood/bamboo core and have P-Tex 2000 or 4000 sintered race bases.
We have been making skis for about 4 years now and although we never plan to rival any of the European mega-companies, we are growing. We have just about finished a new manufacturing/office facility in Avon CO within sight of Beaver Creek and Vail and we have some cool new innovations with sidewalls, edges and core shape we will be making and testing there.
Lightningboards Skis USA Solid ash wood skis of all modern shapes! Cool. 16-footers available ! 1845 replicas. Unique. Made by the "official ski replicator for the Utah Museum of Ski History". Check out all the pages at his site! Wasatch Lightning Longboards and Longboard Soprano Sticks.
Line Skis USA
Logic Snowboards: Canada Precured fiberglass with carbon-fiber stringers..no plastic topsheet. Fiberglass pulled under tension..then set. Artist series graphics. Created by Jason Broz.
Lokomotiv Skis: Sweden "We are not yet an official company, nor have we intentions to try to make an impact on the commercial market. However, we are hoping to build a name for the Lokomotiv brand based on our quality and uniqueness. We also wanted to break free from the mass market consumer hype and build something unique and individual."
Lusti Skis: Czchekoslovakia
Masurao Skis: Switzerland
Maxel Skis: Italy
Mizuno: Japan
Mountain Wave Skis: Germany
Movement Freeride Skis: Switzerland
Mpride "Swkal" Boards: Switzerland hand made "extreme carving" "Skwal" boards - not snowboards! - see http://www.skwalzone.org/ See: http://www.thiaskwal.com/
Navaski Skis: Italy Cool topsheet graphics
Ninthward Skis: USA
Odyssey Skis: USA
Ogasaka Skis: Japan
Orion Skis: Bulgaria Skiboards too...
Pale Skis Austria
Phantom Skis: USA
Pilz (Dynasprint) Germany Sleds, hockey sticks, paddles, furniture, snowboards
Pollux Skis: Switzerland
PMGear "Bro" Skis: USA
Prajeckt Skis: USA (demised domain was http://www.prajekt.com/)
Prior Skis: Canada
Pure Skis: Germany Webmaster Comments:
Beautiful ash cores visible through transparent topsheets.... Only 2 pairs made per day...handmade...pintail geometry. Three different shapes available. Skateboards too! Nice picture gallery.

Manufacturer Comments:
"Freeride skis 100% handmade in (Bavaria) Germany only 50 pairs of each model a year (real custom) tip to tail white ash woodcore with carbon stringers transparent topsheet "
Quechua Skis & Snowboards: France Short skis, general skis...looks like custom make-up ski topsheets..unknown manufacturer,...perhaps made in Spain and Romania. Private label of Decathlon (see decathlon.com), which is the hugest retailing group in France and the 2nd largest sporting-goods retailer in Europe. Reported to be an affordable, ski with reasonable pricing for families. Not ultra-performance.
Radical Skis & Snowboards: Sweden Will produce custom skis or snowboard from a "Chinese menu" of options such as shape, sizes, composition, flex...etc. with special charges for overwidth or overlength...very interesting. Skateboards too!

Site Quote: "The following coefficients will be tuned by the tenth part millimeter to the needs of the rider:
Length (up to 230cm), width (up to 35cm), nose- and tail- shape, tail radius, pintail, flex and torsions hardness, weight, construction, binding position, type of base and design."
Revolution Skis: USA Under "www.rideharder.com"
Ridea Skis: Sweden Bumtribe powder skis were their prototypes...Two flex patterns available per model, ash cores, "fat" edges..."tough and durable".. clean graphics...nice photo gallery ! Link to cool Swedish kiteboards!
Royal Chamonix France (U.S. version of "Lacroix Skis (France)" - see listing above)
Roxy Skis: France Division of mega-company QuickSilver (Rossignol, Dynastar) partnered with their subsidiary Dynastar to develop skis designed for women.
RTC Carving Skis:
Switzerland
Scott Skis ? (Only mentioned on non-USA sites)
ScottyBob Skis: USA
SI-CORE d.o.o. (no website) Slovenia

Manufacturers of composite ski and snowboard cores. Specialists in wood laminates for many industries.
Contact info:
SI-CORE d.o.o.
Galiceva 15 1000
Ljubljana Slovenia/Slowenien
Tel:+38615101755 Fax:+38615183255
GSM:+38641678260


Sigi Grabner Snowboards: Austria SGS snowboards developped by Sigi Grabner,
produced in Carinthia. Freeride and Race. Olympic bronze medal. Sigi's site can be viewed at http://www.sigigrabner.com
Ski Bois Tardy: France (Cool woodgrain topsheets - even in GS models)
SnowRider Skis: Austria
SnowShark Monoskis: USA Extreme monoskis and other shapes for powder, twin tips...etc.
Spoilt Skis: Italy Ah, those Italians...Hand built, poplar/ash vertical laminate cores in varying proportions for different behaviors. CK60 edges, custom fibers molded into the skis depending on style. Exellent photos of the skis in construction. Custom skis to your specifications "Proto" model (6 month wait to get them built), or "Limited Edition" model with predetermined dimensions...you specify the flex and construction (2-3 week wait), or "Spoilt" models pre-constructed to their specs (6-7 days). Combined with VIST bindings and plates. These guys embody the spirit of ExoticSkis:

Manufacturer Comments:
"Spoilt was founded in 2004 out of the passion for mountain sports from the Mazzoni's brothers (Sandro and Claudio, whom where raised in Kitzbuhel Austria, home of the world's famous Streif). Claudio, after spending 15 years working in the U.S.A. in the Hotel Management Industry, is responsible for the company's business and design. Sandro who's been involved for the last 20 years building snowboards, skis and composite frames, is the driving force behind the creative, engineering and design. Spoilt is a small company whose overarching goal is to develop new products, free of any set standards and any other limitations forced by large industrial productions. The continuous research for new shapes, technologies, and better materials are the fundamentals of the company's philosophy. The production of each ski/snowboard is followed in minute detail, from the initial layout or design through to product completion. (see product - construction). Spoilt prides itself in its handcrafted equipment. For this reason Spoilt must be considered home place for brainstorms and inspirations, where experimentations and creativity are given space to produce unique products."
Sporten Skis: Czechoslovakia

The "White Rabbit" description:
"Slightly SEXY, slightly RACE, slightly SKICROSS - that all you can find in this top level ski with woodcore and titanal inside. Slim in the waist like racing, radius adjusted to universal usage, uncompromising grip on ice. CRAZY design increasing level of hormones."
See their main product site at: http://www.sportech.com.
Stockli Skis: Switzerland (ok, not that exotic..)
Stone Island Skis: ? Custom makeup ski w/VIST hardware - 100 pairs made. U.K. Marketing company
Stradivarius Italy Venice Italy ! Cool names.."Piano", "Symphonia"...
Summit Skiboards USA design-French Construction?

Ash core shortie "Skiboards" (99-110cm), handcrafted one pair at a time by Ludovic LaCroix. 360 full-wrap edges. Handcrafted elegance. Cool. Way-next generation of the "mini ski"..(without the hacksaws).

More info and other skiboards at Doc Roberts' skiboard specialty shop "Skiboards.com" ( http://www.skiboards.com) retail outlet.
Surface Skis: USA
Surf-Rodz Snowboards: USA Carving snow decks. Combination of monoski and alpine snowboard shape. Directional shape with narrow waist and stance for precise carves. Twintip freecarve and cruising shapes.
Swallow Skis: Japan
Swell Panik Snowboards: France Custom snowboards
Swoard Snowboards Switzerland Extreme carving technique specialty snowboards
Tegsnas Skis: Sweden 5-9 foot, knot-free birch nordic skis. Birch base with hickory edges or wax-free red base. Beautiful.
The Ski USA
Titicaca Skis: Switzerland
Trab Skis: Italy
Treski (Rønning) Skis: Norway Wooden (hickory) skis since 1936. XC, Mountain, Telemark, Jakt, Barneski, Big Mountain skis. Hand shaped. Ultra Modern Retro.
Tua Skis: Italy
Vandel Skis: France Hand-made, skating, touring and alpine skis since 1937. Family owned. Fully customized for the client, including engraving of your name. Probably one of the last of their breed.
Virus Skis: Germany
VIST Skis & Bindings: Italy Makers of famous binding and race-plates now making skis in the old "Spaulding" factory (Persenico factory?) by Horst Gamper. Rumored to make skis for Nava and Duell. GS, racecarve and other models.
Voille Skis: USA
VR-Skis: Germany (Snowrider, Bogner and Indigo are all made by vr-ski.)
Wally Skis: Italy (Also makes high-performance superyachts - WHOA!)
Zai Skis: Switzerland By Simon Jacomet, a very well-known "carving"-pioneer from Disentis, Switzerland
ZAG Skis: France Shaped by Stephane "Zag" Radiguet : snowboarder, skier and designer for snowboards and skis for 20 years : A real different feeling and construction for freeskiing and powder skis. Based in Bourg St Maurice-Les Arcs-Savoie France.
Zweydingers Skis:
post #4 of 28
Mntlion seems like you got some time on your hands since your accident?
My god almost as many ski companies as thier are skiers.
post #5 of 28
HOLY RAVIOLI, THATSA' GREAT LIST

Thank you so much mtnlion!
post #6 of 28
I ride the AK's and LOVE 'EM!

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=49664

I am starting to feel that I may unload my "mainstream" Mantras and get the other AK ski, the King Salmon.

Also the companies listed are all sizes, the microbrewery/indie brewery comparison on another thread was spot on.

Like I'd consider LINE to be like Red Hook Ale or Sam Adams. LINE skis are made on assembly in China. Red Hook is partially owned by Budweiser and makes use of their facilities and distribution (I believe Sam Adams is linked up with Strohs). In contrast a company like AK only has their skis available for demo at 1 resort (Kirkwood), making them a little more like say Anchor Steam or a completely regional true microbrewery, in a manner of speaking. Same for someone like Prior or High Society or Liberty.

I would almost consider Armada and 4frnt as borderline mainstream skis. Armadas are made in the EU. 4Frnt moved from being made in Tahoe to being made in Canada. Both offer a minimum of 5 models. Ditto for Movement. In contrast a company like PMGear or Prior only really offer 2 models in various sizes.

Then you have "big" boys that don't get a lot of play like Blizzard, which I almost consider to be an indie mainstream monster.

post #7 of 28
I got the list from exotic skis.com and just copy/paste

but ya I have some time....

arghhh I hate dumptrucks
post #8 of 28
Thread Starter 

my list runneth over

mtnlion, thanks. I guess I should have been careful what I asked for. I had no idea.
BTW, I live in Golden and was up at Lake Louise today. Cold but apparently fantastic conditions. I'm recovering from surgery. The only problem is that every skier that can afford it from the rest of the world is there. It was like Coney Island. Imagine spring break in the middle of January.
post #9 of 28
sunshine village only had 1200 skier count, very quiet on hill. should have driven a bit more,

also the dive opened, been closed during this whole storm cycle.. ya it was good.
post #10 of 28
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Originally Posted by dookey67 View Post
I ride the AK's and LOVE 'EM!

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=49664

I am starting to feel that I may unload my "mainstream" Mantras and get the other AK ski, the King Salmon.

Also the companies listed are all sizes, the microbrewery/indie brewery comparison on another thread was spot on.

Like I'd consider LINE to be like Red Hook Ale or Sam Adams. LINE skis are made on assembly in China. Red Hook is partially owned by Budweiser and makes use of their facilities and distribution (I believe Sam Adams is linked up with Strohs). In contrast a company like AK only has their skis available for demo at 1 resort (Kirkwood), making them a little more like say Anchor Steam or a completely regional true microbrewery, in a manner of speaking. Same for someone like Prior or High Society or Liberty.

I would almost consider Armada and 4frnt as borderline mainstream skis. Armadas are made in the EU. 4Frnt moved from being made in Tahoe to being made in Canada. Both offer a minimum of 5 models. Ditto for Movement. In contrast a company like PMGear or Prior only really offer 2 models in various sizes.

Then you have "big" boys that don't get a lot of play like Blizzard, which I almost consider to be an indie mainstream monster.

A little off-topic, but redhook produces all their own beer, they just have a distribution agreement with Anheuser Busch, as that way A-B has less pressure to create a "premium" beer (which usually doesn't fly with beer snobs if a mass brewery makes it), and redhook gets easy nationwide distribution.
post #11 of 28
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Originally Posted by martino View Post
Tom Nolasco's thread about boutique skis caused me to list the growing tide of low number, out-of-the-mainstream skis that are appearing. What have I missed?
Armada, Movement, Pale, LibTech, Vist, High Society, Praxis, Zag, Kingswood, Nava, Blossom, Black Thunder, Duret, Bogner, Line, ScottyBob, 4FRNT, Wally, Claw, DB, Lightningboards, Moment
I wouldnt call armadas movements or lines "unusual", especially not line. 4frnt is comming up towards maistream as well. And libtec, while a new ski maker, is a hugely popular snowboard co.
post #12 of 28
although not boutique, these are out of the ordinary and very interesting...has anyone had any experience riding the Fischer freeride "park/powder" line up? I had a day up the back of Aspen's Walshes during the last storm and one of the boys was skiing a set (first time i had seen them and they aren't available anywhere in aspen)...anyone got any feedback on these?
post #13 of 28
mntlion I had my motorcycle accident last year. 4 broken ribs and one really screwed up left knee. Nothing as bad as yours. I hear ya on hating those dump trucks. keep recovering. hope to soon hear a report of mntlion charging some steep chutes. Oh I just thought of one other defunt ski company Miller Ski made in Provo Utah. Miller may have had the first real Powder ski ever made.It was called the Miller Soft. As I recall he was making the Miller Soft in the late 70s
post #14 of 28
I agree with many opinions about some "unusual" brands now evolving into "not so unusual"...but then again...that means they are succeeding !

I run the ExoticSkis.com website, and if anyone has news about any odd or unusual ski brands or designs...please let us know...we would like to get these manufactures into the minds of skiers. The more skis the better.

If you want some info on making your own skis...the guys over at www.skibuilders.com have some cool pictures and information.

Pray for snow.
post #15 of 28
Related question is, does handmade in small numbers=better? Should we race out and buy from this list because they're superior skis, or because it's cool to be seen on the lift with a pair?

Most of us would agree that some mainstream companies like Stockli or Blizzard turn out partly handmade products that are hard to beat for quality. OTOH, Fatypus and Bros are newish, small handmade operations with good quality reps. On the, ah, third hand, some large "indies" like Scott or Line make decent sized production runs at an independent factory, but both have a rep for good, solid skis. And on the fourth hand, wherever it hangs out, you have various sized exotics like Goode, DB, Zag, and Prior, usually spun off of another product (water skis, snowboards) that seem to be plagued by quality control/weird design issues. That, as much as weak marketing, may be why many go down the toilet.
post #16 of 28
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Originally Posted by beyond View Post
Related question is, does handmade in small numbers=better? Should we race out and buy from this list because they're superior skis, or because it's cool to be seen on the lift with a pair?

Most of us would agree that some mainstream companies like Stockli or Blizzard turn out partly handmade products that are hard to beat for quality. OTOH, Fatypus and Bros are newish, small handmade operations with good quality reps. On the, ah, third hand, some large "indies" like Scott or Line make decent sized production runs at an independent factory, but both have a rep for good, solid skis. And on the fourth hand, wherever it hangs out, you have various sized exotics like Goode, DB, Zag, and Prior, usually spun off of another product (water skis, snowboards) that seem to be plagued by quality control/weird design issues. That, as much as weak marketing, may be why many go down the toilet.
A minor point, but I think Scotts are built by Fisher. And they are rather mainstream now in Yurp.
post #17 of 28
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Originally Posted by ExoticSkis View Post
I agree with many opinions about some "unusual" brands now evolving into "not so unusual"...but then again...that means they are succeeding !

I run the ExoticSkis.com website, and if anyone has news about any odd or unusual ski brands or designs...please let us know...we would like to get these manufactures into the minds of skiers. The more skis the better.

If you want some info on making your own skis...the guys over at www.skibuilders.com have some cool pictures and information.

Pray for snow.
Tardy skis make wooden skis in France. They use to work, AFAIK, for Lacroix / Lagriffe. I don't if it's still true.

Edit : Forget it. It was on the list, under ski tardy.
post #18 of 28
On the Redhook topic (as it relates to categorizing boutique ski lines) A/B doesn't have any fingers in the brewing process? I have friends who were diehard RH drinkers and they swear the beer changed after A/B took over. Me, never been partial to it. Give me an Anchor Steam or a Red Tail or Red Nectar any day!

On the subject of Line Skis, last time I checked they were being "handmade" in China.



The thing you may give up with a smaller company is the "guaranteed" quality, but I've found that the smaller companies are eager to please their customers.

For example, last season while I was demoing I would frequently email the customer support at various companies. Line NEVER got back to me once. On the other hand AK (out of Markliville, CA) was quick to reply and even set me up with free demos. Add to that the fact that I got their skis for about 1/2 what they were going for online right from the dealer and you can't beat it.

Additionally, companies like Prior and Armada and Blizzard were great about answering emails within hours of sending them. Heck, I even had a Blizzard rep help me track down a pair of skis at the end of the season!

Sure, "quality" may be an issue when they're handmaking skis, but I think you'll find that most of these smaller ski companies are more about the hands on approach, both in terms of making their product and dealing with customers.

The PM Gear folks have a great online rep. One of the main reasons I'm even interested in their ski. Additionally, everyone who rides one is great about offering others to demo theirs, etc.

I'm a huge fan now of indie skis. The only downside is that since so many of the companies are small, you kind of just have to bite the bullet and buy their stuff w/o demoing. Or if you can demo, you usually can only do it at one place (AK at Kirkwood, Icelantic at Loveland, Prior at Whistler, etc).

At any rate, I'mma keep talking up AK Skis until somebody else learns how sweet they are. Here's to hoping that I can get to Kirkwood in the next few weeks and plunk down on a pair of the King Salmons to replace my Mantras!

Booga-booga!
post #19 of 28
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Originally Posted by beyond View Post
Related question is, does handmade in small numbers=better? Should we race out and buy from this list because they're superior skis, or because it's cool to be seen on the lift with a pair?
...
The big companies can makes some awesome skis (I own a bunch and love 'em), and they often have the R&D budgets to bring out new ideas. It's just fun to see the small guys bring their own skis to the party...

Sometimes the designs are great...sometimes they aren't.
Sometimes the quality is great...sometimes it isn't....
Just like the "big" companies...

It's probably healthy to have lots of small and large manufacturers and designers in the ski world... Personally, I would love to have some top-shelf "big-name" skis in my quiver....right along with some odd-balls or hard-to-find brands...the more toys...the better !

Cheers.
post #20 of 28
Right now I have The Ski, Blizzard and Goode in my quiver. Having something that is different is a conversation maker on the gondie.
post #21 of 28
Radical - http://www.radical-sports.com/english/frame/f-home.html
(they used to be purely snowboard, but they do skis now as well)
post #22 of 28
Some of the problems for the mid level ski companies is the lack of production, If I remember right there are almost no North American builders left, which forces compaines to either go to china or to the EU. Before PMGear had their own press they ran into this problem alot. The handmades are definitly cool, I would love to try some of the Drake Powderworks skis as Stephen seems to do great things with designs. His book was excellent too, the link is below if you want to check it out. I know Armada's are now made in the Atomic factory as opposed to when they originally were made in the Elan factory. I think for alot of the companies this is the only way they can operate if they don't want to go to China or invest in their own equipment.




http://www.dpsskis.com/page.php?pnam...l&product_id=1
post #23 of 28
I almost forgot, I think these show what some of the smaller companies can do. 203/177/193


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post #24 of 28
I was skiing in La Giettaz (next to Megeve) today and saw these amazing "Tardy" skis mentioned above. The list says "wood topsheets", but as far as I can tell they're solid wood apart from the bases. They seem to do all shapes and sizes - see the sawn off tips and the wakeboard with snowboard bindings! The fat pair were just huge, looked like water skis, wood was getting on for an inch thick in the middle! All beautifully made.




post #25 of 28
I don't think I've seen anyone mention On3p. They probably deserve to be on this list.

And the absolutely most obscure brand I've heard of would have to be 333 skis.

http://www.333skis.com/
post #26 of 28
I believe the "Skis Bois Tardy" are solid ash, vacuum processed and dried 1 year in open air.  They laminate various layers together, then add the Ptex and edges (Patented they say). Very traditional French ski, with lots of shapes to choose from. Priced around €400.


P.S. - How is the snow near Megeve?  I am going with the family Feb 6-13!

 

 




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I was skiing in La Giettaz (next to Megeve) today and saw these amazing "Tardy" skis mentioned above. The list says "wood topsheets", but as far as I can tell they're solid wood apart from the bases. They seem to do all shapes and sizes - see the sawn off tips and the wakeboard with snowboard bindings! The fat pair were just huge, looked like water skis, wood was getting on for an inch thick in the middle! All beautifully made.



 
post #27 of 28
Scott Andrus's On3P skis are getting great reviews over at TGR...with a good cult following. Just built up a new shop and is swamped with orders.  http://www.on3pskis.com  He is now up to 2 presses in the shop.  Very modern, up-to-date geometries and materials.

Michael of 333skis (http://www.333skis.com) has been going through some "evolutionary" changes in his business model and practical focus since 2008-2009, but definitely a "think-outside-the-box" manufacturer. I like his radical thinking.  He may yet have a lasting impact on some aspects of the ski building ecosystem out there!

There are lots of unusual skis and ski builders out there.  We are currently at 248 ski companies and counting at ExoticSkis...if you find any we don't have listed...drop me a message! 


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I don't think I've seen anyone mention On3p. They probably deserve to be on this list.

And the absolutely most obscure brand I've heard of would have to be 333 skis.

http://www.333skis.com/

 
post #28 of 28
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P.S. - How is the snow near Megeve?  I am going with the family Feb 6-13! 

 


I was in Combloux / Le Jaillet today and It's all starting to get a bit thin, though it's fine on upper slopes. It's supposed to snow a little tonight, but I can see the moon right now... Temp is due to drop towards the end of next week, so I just hope we get some precip to go with it.
Only other thing I'd say is that it will probably be pretty crowded then - I'm heading to Engelberg which should be a bit quieter.
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