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rub on wax while away from home ?

post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
I in tend to hot scrape and wax my new skis a few times before heading out.
I can't take my iron with me and won't have access to a work bench to hot wax while away from home so I was wondering if it might be worthwhile rubbing in some wax half way through the 6 days' skiing?
I've got a cork on the back of a brush but not sure how to go about this.
Is it as simple as crayoning on the wax everywhere and then just rubbing it in with the cork?
How long for and do you have to scrape afterwards?
post #2 of 21
A good base prep wax will help extend the length of time between waxings. How abrasive the snow is will also come into play, as will the hardness of the wax. The rub on is for convenience and will not last as long as a good hot waxing or quality liquids, but is easy and using it with higher frequency is not hard or time consuming. The cork creates some friction heat and presses the wax into the base. You shouldn't have to scrape if you don't go nuts with the crayoning as you work up thin layers. Brushing should be enough after corking. Try different things while skiing and have a good trip.
post #3 of 21

Wanted

Artificial cork in alpine sizes, to fit hands in size L/10 glove size.

Let me worry about putting enough pressure on it and save the 50mm dainty corks for nordic skis.
post #4 of 21
Here's a 14cm anti-danty cork for you.

(Good idea, BTW. )
post #5 of 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by comprex View Post
Artificial cork in alpine sizes, to fit hands in size L/10 glove size.

Let me worry about putting enough pressure on it and save the 50mm dainty corks for nordic skis.
This is cork mounted on hard wood, 3x5 in

For more info click here.

post #6 of 21
Thread Starter 
How long do you have to rub it in for in 1 area of the ski though?
post #7 of 21

cork may work but...

try the wax wizard. It fits in the hand nicely and really works the wax in. I use it when travelling.
http://www.tognar.com/wax_tools_hot_...owboard.ht ml
(scroll 1/2 way down to find it)

you can lear n a lot more from this thread ttp://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=21797
post #8 of 21

Ray's Way

Gordon;
I bought a Wax Whizard made by Ray's Way, seems to work well. I rub on wax, then rub the wax in with the Whizard. This thing has enough small area contact pressure to do a decent job of "ironing" the wax in. Certainly not like a real iron, but works well in a condo at the mountain.
C.B.

http://www.alpineskituning.com
post #9 of 21
Dr. D, that looks exactly it, woohoo!
post #10 of 21
I've used the wax whizard on vacation as well. I bring wax, the whizard and a horsehair brush. Works good.
post #11 of 21
and unlike what seems like the majority of the posters in this forum these days, I don't sell any tuning supplies!
post #12 of 21
Thread Starter 
How long do you rib the wax in for ?
i.e. how long does it take to get hot using a cork ?
post #13 of 21
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Originally Posted by GordonFreeman View Post
How long do you rib the wax in for ?
i.e. how long does it take to get hot using a cork ?
To get an impression for what it takes for regular alpine waxes crayoned on: rub your hands together. Hard. Do you feel heat or smell hot skin/boiled schwitz? No? Try faster and harder.

That much, that hard, repeated over the length of each ski (which is why the Ray's Way fans have a point). How long of the clock it takes varies with, uh, enthusiasm. You're looking for a uniformly shiny, iridescent sheen over the length of the ski, with no globs or crayonlike traces.
post #14 of 21
It doesn't seem to take that long, but I've never used a cold weather wax this way. I usually use Dominator Zoom Universal waxes. Some good old fashioned elbow grease to rub it in/around and cover the base.

After all when you use a liquid wax does it really penetrate that much? I don't get a feeling that the wax actually melts, but it does spread nicely. Then the horsehair brush in addition to removing excess seems to help with penetration as well (although I have no idea whether the wax really "penetrates." All I know is that it works well enough that I still cruise past people on the cattracks at Vail for 2 weeks away from my iron.)

The wax remember serves two purposes, to protect the base, and to provide glide. And remember as well you should be up on your edges most of the time anyway.
post #15 of 21

cheap iron

i get a $2 iron at the local thrift store
post #16 of 21
Thread Starter 
I have an iron already. I'm going to wax it properly with the iron before I go but will probably need to rub some wax in after 3 days skiing to last the next 3 days before I return home !
post #17 of 21
just buy some swix F4 paste or something. works better than corking, or "ray's way(ing)" in terms of a day's durability.

do this after skiing every day:

dry skis and let them get warm.

apply swix F4 to warm skis.

let sit for like 10 minutes.

cork the dried F4.

scrape the excess of the edges.

nylon brush to get structure back.

polish with cloth if thats your thing.

the F4 paste dries much harder and last longer than anything that will likely cork into the base well in as-is hardened form.

most solid waxes that cork in are junk after a few runs.
post #18 of 21
I go the route of 740. I use swix f4 paste wax. Deburr your edges, brush your bases with a wire brush, apply the f4, let it dry and brush with a soft nylon brush. Total time: approx 10 minutes.

RW
post #19 of 21
Thread Starter 
How long do you think one of the F4 paste tins will last (days) ?
I think the standard ones are 40ml with sponge.
post #20 of 21
Gordon,

I bought the large can for about $30, it has lasted 5 years and still going.

RW
post #21 of 21
Thread Starter 
What about this one:
http://www.nevisport.com/detail.asp?...oductID=204040

So, I'm going to hot wax a fewtimes before I go out on holiday.
...and then you recommend rubbing this in every day and brushing ?
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