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Yet another GS ski question..

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
So the itch is back again .. I currently ski on 165cm, fischer rx8s and am probably an advanced skiier. I am 5'11" and 140#s.

I want to get a pair of longer radius skis and have a line on a pretty cheap Pair but they are stock race skis. Before I buy it, am I just getting way over my head?.. Will a race stock GS ski just throw me around at my weight? I dont porfess to have the greatest techinque but I get down the hill decently fast.

The skis in question are Blizzard race stocks, this years model

http://www.blizzard-ski.com/goto/en/...e/gs-magnesium
post #2 of 15
Thread Starter 
bumpity bump..
post #3 of 15
I can't speak specifically for the Blizzards, but I just don't know how much you would really get out of them. The pros are that GS skis are a blast to ski on if you have the tecnique, and the space to build up the necessary speed to carve them.

But most days I don't find myself skiing on my race stock GS skis. I think that is representative of a lot of people who race or raced. You see racers free skiing on SL skis a lot more these days which are a lot more like your RX8's than a GS ski. It just isn' that much fun unless you have a wide open groomer and those are hard to come by with this weather!

So if they are cheap and you think you will have the chance to ski some wide open open trails sometime, well then go for it. You will have a blast. But for 85% of your skiing I don't see you enjoying them.
post #4 of 15
Thread Starter 
Thanks kerstner.. I firgured I might be way understimating the ski.. I might look at something like the atomic gs9 or something along that vein.. Bit softer and more turnier..
post #5 of 15
It probably depends a lot on what boots you are using, and how they fit.
post #6 of 15
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Originally Posted by coug View Post
Thanks kerstner.. I firgured I might be way understimating the ski.. I might look at something like the atomic gs9 or something along that vein.. Bit softer and more turnier..
True, any ski that is not FIS complient >21 radius will be turnier. The good thing about true race skis, however, is that they can be had very cheap. If you are sponsered, got your skis for free last year, and got a new pair for free this year, you don't care what you unload the old ones for. That results in some awesome deals on race stock skis on ebay and elsewhere. Something to think about if you are just playing around on them and want to buy cheap.
post #7 of 15
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Originally Posted by coug View Post
Thanks kerstner.. I firgured I might be way understimating the ski.. I might look at something like the atomic gs9 or something along that vein.. Bit softer and more turnier..
True, any ski that is not FIS complient >21 radius will be turnier. The good thing about true race skis, however, is that they can be had very cheap. If you are sponsored, got your skis for free last year, and got a new pair for free this year, you don't care what you unload the old ones for. That results in some awesome deals on race stock skis on ebay and elsewhere. Something to think about if you are just playing around on them and want to buy cheap.
post #8 of 15
GS skis, especially race stock, really do require some speed to get the most out of them. It depends on where you ski. And, as sugested above, race stock skis demand some good technique and some good boots to drive them. If all tat applies, then, go for it. It's true, you can find some screamin' deals on used race stock.

BUt, your thought on something like the Atomic GS9 is a good idea. If you don't plan on racing but want an GS-type ski for riding all over the mountain, this would be a great ski. It will let you flex it into shorter turns when you need it: a race stock ski will not let you do that so easily.
post #9 of 15
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I currently ride on Dlabello Krypton Cross and I rather like them.. Would I need a plug to drive race skis?.. I guess Plugs might be stiff than what I have now and hence maybe transmit more energy to the ski? Is my understanding correct?

And you are absolutely right about the deals.. True GS boards for 150 bucks is what I am looking at. They are last years version..
post #10 of 15
Beware of ebay "deals" on GS skis- many of them have been used by competitive racers and have little or no edge material left. Don't buy a race stock ski without seeing a good number of photos of the edges and bases.

As far as boots- I switched from a Lange 130LF to a Salomon Falcon 10 this season and have no trouble ripping on my race stock Dynastar GS boards, so the Krypton Cross shouldn't have a problem either.
post #11 of 15
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Originally Posted by coug View Post
I currently ride on Dlabello Krypton Cross and I rather like them.. Would I need a plug to drive race skis?.. I guess Plugs might be stiff than what I have now and hence maybe transmit more energy to the ski? Is my understanding correct?
Some might say, "Yes, get plugs." Not me. If your Kryptons fit well, that should be fine, more than fine. If you really feel that the flex is too soft, I believe you can order the stiffer tongue from Dalbello, essentially making it a Krypton Pro. Ask Phil.

FWIW, despite years of mucking about on all-mountain skis after my college racing days ceased, I still can't kick my taste for race stock gear. And last year I got out my old Flexons from college and still use 'em to drive my GS & SL skis. They work for me, but I'm not racing. A racer would want something more.
post #12 of 15
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Originally Posted by Takecontrol618 View Post
Beware of ebay "deals" on GS skis- many of them have been used by competitive racers and have little or no edge material left. Don't buy a race stock ski without seeing a good number of photos of the edges and bases.
Good advice! Ski swaps are excellent for scrounging some cheap race stock gear. Most of that gear has been loved: well maintained and often with good grinds still in the base. Usually there is plenty of edge/base left after only a season or two. More than that...look carefully.

Or, call nearby race clubs/teams/programs. Some kids "forget" to selll 'em, as they get too focused on the new stuff. It's worked for people I know, including me. I picked up a pair of 2005-06 Rossi 9X (race stock) with Rossi pivots for $50!!!!!!! Just because I called a coach I know, and he put the word out. A week later, I had skis.

Good hunting!
post #13 of 15
Thread Starter 
faber I am no racer.. unless they start having races in the featherweight category .. I am going to buy the skis and give it a go.. I want to see the difference just for fun.. worst case I sell them off later.. thanks for the advice all..
post #14 of 15
If you are at a D1 skiing school or know someone at one, the racers love to unload their skis at the end of each season for beer money. I scored some 180 cm Lab Race Stock Salomon GS skis (R>21m) from a girl at my school last spring and I'm totally in love with them. So in love that I haven't even clicked into my Atomic SL9's yet this year.

The GS skis took a day or two of getting used to but, after riding 160 cm slalom radius skis the last few years, they have forced me to really improve my skiing. The race stock GS ski doesn't do the work for you - you have to really drive the things but now I can make them do whatever I want - even some very short radius turns. As people have mentioned, these skis need to be going fast to work right - that is very true. They really come to life when they are moving fast. The stability and response at high speed are simply amazing.

If you can score some cheap, I say go for it.
post #15 of 15
Thread Starter 
This one is actually from a friend in school currently and a new pair of Race stocks from last year.. He offered them at 150 which seems reasonable so I did it.. The experiment begins ..
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