Originally Posted by beyond
FWIW, Maggot, think about SJ's point instead of knee-jerking to any "slur" on the wonderful complexity of fat skis by (horrors!) someone who doesn't ski them all of the time. Look, he's just saying that for the average decent recreational skier (no, not you guys over at TGR), there'll be less difference in how fat skis perform in pow than how narrower skis perform elsewhere. Why? Because pow takes away a whole set of variables having to do with edge grip, damping, and reacting to irregular hard surfaces. You turn in pow by flexing the ski, or by skidding/smearing it, and you have a cushion between the ski and hard surfaces. This is why we can all feel like heroes in six inches of light pow, whether we're on Stockli XL's or Pontoons.
Obviously, if you're talking about higher speeds, air, refrozen crust, glaciers, or 60 degree chutes, there WILL be important differences, and I for one like the fact that there's a whole community devoted to discussing them. But what percentage of backside resort skiers are actually going to need to know?
Well, I disagree. There is a whole world of variation in fat skis. Some do well in pow, but hold their own on hardpack, some are pow specific. Some are made for little turns in the trees, some are made for straightlining.
All the time people ask for advice on fat skis (a lot of times their first pair) and receive less than stellar advice. I cringe when I see that, because I would hate to be on the receiving end of bad advice.
I know there are plenty of people that really think all fat skis are similar enough that it doesn't matter, and thats fine. There is nothing wrong with skiing mostly skinny skis, but if you have that opinion, you shouldn't be giving advice on fat skis.
For me, there really isn't too much difference in skinny skis. Theres carvers or race skis, and then theres park/all mountain skis. I don't have much interest in either. The difference is though, that I keep my mouth shut and don't offer advice, because my advice will probably be worth less than someone with a quiver full of race and carving skis.
However, Jim is trying to sell skis, so keeping his mouth shut does not really behoove him.