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Fritschi Freeride plus

post #1 of 15
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I have recently purchased the new freeride plus. I also have last years freeride. I have a new pair of gotama's and am debating putting the new freerides on these. The reason for the debate is I currently have last years freeride on some of last years gotama's, and when I am in a tight chute or an area that I am really driving the skis I have been flexing the ski to a point where the tour mode releases the latch. All of a sudden I am in freeheel mode.
I tend to do about 70% resort and 30% backcountry.
Will I have this same problem with the new freerides?
This is what I am trying to figure out.
Regular bindings or freerides for the new gotama's?
Thanks
post #2 of 15
I have fritschis on my gotamas, but never had them turn into touring mode on their own. That's strange and I can't imagine it.
Anyway, if you have a touring gotama, why another? especially if you only tour 30% of the time. Personally I'm over it and want a real binding on my next fattie. Also, consider marker's new DUKE binding coming this spring (I assume?) din 6-16, freeride/tour. Apparently it's getting some hype. search the forums here or at TGR. I'm very curious.
post #3 of 15
I was just bought a pair of Freeride Pluses today and was talking to the dealer about this issue. He said that if any of the Fritchis are mounted correctly they should never flex into touring mode. The problem is that there are not that many ski techs trained to mount them, and if you use the paper template it appears to be wrong, but it isn't. You need to get the old Freerides adjusted or remounted to solve the problem. Contact Keith at Pine Needle in Durango if you want better info.
post #4 of 15
I still don't understand. You're flexing the tail so much that the lever releases and sets it into touring-mode? This is a common problem?
post #5 of 15
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I still don't understand. You're flexing the tail so much that the lever releases and sets it into touring-mode? This is a common problem?
I'm pretty sure this is what MRP922 is getting at. It's happened to me a lot (on Explosivs - not a soft ski), and it's happened to a lot of other people as well. If you get the heel off by just a few mm this will happen. The lock on the new Freeride + supposedly takes care of this problem.
post #6 of 15
thank god my ability to drill holes on center didn't send-me-a-flyin'. Never even heard of this before.
post #7 of 15
I am not sure if I remember this correctly, but I believe the paper mounting template that comes with the bindings makes it look like the heel is too far back, so people move it up a little, which causes the pre-release problem. It is my understanding that if you mount them with the template and adjust them correctly you should not have a problem with any model Fritchi pre-releasing, but a lot of people have reported this problem.
post #8 of 15
no problems for me thus far. I mounted via the paper/sticker template that came with the bindings. seemed pretty fool-proof. But I have made some pretty major self-mounting errors in the past on other bindings.
post #9 of 15
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Originally Posted by samurai View Post
I still don't understand. You're flexing the tail so much that the lever releases and sets it into touring-mode? This is a common problem?
Actually, flexing the ski shortens the length between the heelpiece and toepiece. Since the bar is a fixed length and fixed at the toe, the pin holding it in the heelpiece moves back a bit. This was a VERY common problem with the original titanol 1, but got fixed in the Titanol 2 and later bindings by using a slot rather than a pin. I haven't heard of this problem since the Titanol 1, but I guess if the binding is mounted too close together, it could exacerbate the condition.
I haven't mounted a Fritschi in years without using the jig, but the first 6 or 7 were with the paper template. I remember that it came folded in half, and some of the folds were more pronounced than others. I used to compensate my drilling to compensate for the loss of length from that fold, maybe some people aren't doing that.
post #10 of 15
thanks 2-turn. that explains it. Now I get it. (though no problems since my last post)
post #11 of 15
The original Freeride heel is held in place by two tabs that move under the hold-down as the ski flexes. In the neutral position, a properly mounted heel overlaps the tab bu about 1/4 inch. If the heel hold down is improperly mounted so the tab lines up on the heel hold-down,a serverly decamered ski can force the tab past the hold-down causing free-heel mode. Note that the heel is designed to release when the lever is lifted foward and the tabs pass through the opening in the heel.

post #12 of 15
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Originally Posted by samurai View Post
I...Also, consider marker's new DUKE binding coming this spring (I assume?) din 6-16, freeride/tour. Apparently it's getting some hype. search the forums here or at TGR. I'm very curious.
samuri, any links on the duke, did a search at TGR and tried google to no avail.
post #13 of 15
I just did a search-- nothing. tired. Anyway, I just read up on it the other day. I know it's there, yet can't find it. sorry.

a low-down;
6-16 din marker touring binding.
heavy
who cares.
blowing fritche, etc... out of the water.
I found it with the Katana thread; volkls '08 lineup.
Yeah, the 08 volkls... as if they need a binding promoting sales...
I'll search again after sleep and skiing...
post #14 of 15
I've got a similar dillema, I own a pair of Gotama's, which is my alpine set up. My AT set up is a pair of pocket rockets with freerides, but they are done & way too soft. I just recently bought some new freeride plus's & some mantra's but havent received the ski's yet. Do I mount the new freerides on the gotama's or on the mantra's? 70% of my skiing is at whistler, but I like to venture out in the B.C. while we are at the mountain and escape the crowds, the other 30% would be B.C. Any thoughts?
post #15 of 15
Id be interested to read or see more of this marker set-up.
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