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Has any one had any first hand experience with "Backcountry Access" Alpine Trekker Touring Adaptor ? Comparisons with blackdiamond equipment or others?
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Originally Posted by powmow View Post
Has any one had any first hand experience with "Backcountry Access" Alpine Trekker Touring Adaptor ? Comparisons with blackdiamond equipment or others?
Do a search in this forum, the subject has been beaten to death. For a synopsis, this Trekker is the best of the binding adapters, and is a cheap way of getting into the backcountry. There is NO comparison to dedicated AT bindings, such as Fritschi and Naxo. Uphill, the adapters are clumsy to climb with, downhill you're stuck carrying them down.
post #3 of 12
I have the trekkers and also have Naxo bindings.

The trekkers cost about $80 and the Naxo bindings are a lot more.

Trekkers clip into your alpine bindings and you clip your regular ski boots into the trekkers for walking your skis. They work fine for short hikes. The down side is the added weight and the fact that when you are ready to ski down, you have to remove the trekkers (along with your climbing skins) and put them into your pack.

AT bindings like Naxo are somewhat lighter, and far more convenient. Unlock the heel for hiking and lock the heel down for skiing.

I have two pair of skis, one for regular downhill skiing and one for touring. Trekkers are the cheaper way to go. But there are many variables, such as how much touring you want to do, for how much distance and for how much cost, to consider.

Various AT bindings are a tradeoff between weight and durability that is a whole separate set of considerations.

I keep my trekkers in case I want to take a downhill skier friend with me for a little hike up the mountain. But I am tempted to sell them off to another newbie. Trekkers are a quick and cheap way to get started. However nobody stays with the trekkers. Most hikers will spend the money for less weight and added convenience of better gear.
post #4 of 12
Trekkers are $179.00

Fritschi FR+ and Naxo NX21 are $425.00

None of these work without skins
post #5 of 12
My buddy used the Trekkers for a season and they served their purpose well. Now that he's on a touring binding he swears he'd never use them again...just too heavy compared to AT bindings. Not sure what size binding you'd need but this same buddy of mine is selling his Naxos (last year's NXs, small) for $175. He used them for one season and they are in great shape...he's obsessed with saving weight and he is switching over to an even lighter weight setup (Dynafits). Let me know and I can get you photos and more detailed info if interested.
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If you are looking for skins I've got some I'll sell cheap. They're 80mm Ascensions cut to 70mm at the waist and are in great shape. They'll fit anything from 177s on down. PM me if interested.
post #7 of 12
I've used Trekkers for years and also have a dedicated AT setup with Fritschi Freerides.

Not only are Trekkers the best touring adapter out there, they are pretty much the only touring adapter out there. Back in the 90's there was the Secura-fix which was a piece of crap. I also used to use some Ramer RATs (still have them somewhere - with cracked toe/heel pieces). Trekkers are better than either of these. The climbing posts are pretty decent, they're not that heavy and as long as you have the heel throw cranked pretty tight there's not that much slop. The only thing you have to watch out for is hyper-extending them - you can break them if you're torquing your boot toe against your binding. This is pretty hard to do, though, and easily avoidable.

By comparison, an AT setup is nice because you don't have to carry the Trekkers in you pack on the way down but you also don't have a nice stiff feeling alpine binding on the way down.My alpine bindings are metal Salomon 916's,so the Freerides feel pretty flexy by comparison. This year's Freeride + supposedly eliminates the "insta tele" problem of previous Freerides, but you can still catch the heel unit with the edge of your other ski and wind up in "insta-tele". This has happened to me on tricky/steep terrain and it sucks. I've also broken the toe hight adjustment screw that holds the entire toe piece on. As a result of the previously mentioned glitches, I still use my Trekkers on any remotely scarey descents. I've never tried Naxos or Dynafits, but I probably will in the future due to the problems I've had with Freerides.

So basically to sum it up: Trekkers - not so great on the climb,but there's nothing like alpine bindings on the way down, AT bindings (at least Freerides) - good on the climbs,lighter weight, but not so great on the descents.
post #8 of 12
Powmow- I have a pair of Trekkers in excellent condition which I will sell for $80 (you pay shipping from Denver). Let me know by PM.
post #9 of 12
While my Freerides are quite satisfactory for me they don't work very well for my son. He breaks them almost straight out or finds that they can't hold him given how he skis (he's a big mountain competitor and skis pretty hard). He's considering designing his own mounting plate for his binding that Will allow the heel to be freed for climbing with skins due to the aforementioned shortcomings of Trekkers. Different strokes for different folks.
post #10 of 12
Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post
Trekkers are $179.00

Fritschi FR+ and Naxo NX21 are $425.00
Being able to skin efficiently and go sidehill: priceless.

Get the Freerides.
post #11 of 12
I have been bc skiing for many years starting on Secure Fixes, then tele gear, and the last 10 years on Fritichis. In my opinion Trekkers with alpine boots compared to AT boots and bindings are like a push scooter compared to a bike. They'll get you there but it'll take more effort, be less comfortable, and are not really the right tool for the job.

If you want a taste of the sport, just plan on using them to go off the edges of ski areas occasionally, or plan on hucking cliffs in the backcountry, get the Trekkers. If you are serious about getting into backcountry skiing save your money and spend it on real AT gear.
post #12 of 12
I use both Naxo 21 and Dynafit Vertical on different skis. It really depends on the type of bc trip. If it is a long distance traverse or multi days trip during which the carrying weight is an issue, I would most likely use the Dynafit setup. But if I have to huck or ski trees, I would likely use the Naxo. I also use the Naxo in the groomers too.
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