Originally Posted by Arkady
I am not likely to come to Colorado for an extensive period of time any time soon. How can I get enough lessons from the top instructors there? How I can get to ski with Bob Barnes to get his more specific advise on my skiing?
As an end user seeking for help, I am lost in the amount of information on Epic, and I cannot learn effectively from here without individual instruction. I think that Epic techinque threads are great resources for instructors, who then can ignore unqualified advise (occuring here sometimes!) and apply individual approach to their stidents. As an end user, I am looking for a SYSTEM of ski education. PMTS is a system, and I use it gladly. Give me 2 or 3 more to choose from - and I would be happy to compare and choose. PSIA, as I understand from posts here, has a principle NOT TO CREATE ONE SYSTEM, rely on the instructors - from my point of view, this might be a problem for an end-user. It is good to have a good instructor. If you don't?
Welcome to Epic Arkady and thanks for the kind words.
If you can't travel far to get to the top instructors you seek, maybe you can travel near? Arcmeister
is relatively close to you. He is a PMTS trainer. There are several other PMTS trained pros at various resorts in Wisconsin.
Another option is video. If you get yourself videoed, post it on a website (e.g. youtube) and post a thread requesting an analysis here on Epic, you may not get an analysis from Bob Barnes, but you will get more help than what you pay for (i.e. nothing). There is an effort to formalize this approach to learning (v1sports
) where you can PAY for specific coaches to give you a formal analysis session, but this is not yet very active for skiing.
You've kind of answered your own question about why PSIA does not have an "end user oriented system" for learning to ski. PSIA believes that most people learn to ski more efficiently from an instructor than from a book. PSIA has a system for teaching how to ski and PSIA has a model for how to ski. The model is skills based and the skills are based on movements. The premise is that as your mastery of the skills increases, your mastery of the sport increases. However, as you've discovered, the skill of the instructor can sometimes have a great determination of how much progress you can make. Getting lessons from highly skilled instructors can be difficult. This is one of the perks of becoming an instructor. It can give you easy access to the most skilled instructors. But PSIA does have a certification system that does work fairly well. If you seek out a level III PSIA certified instructor, they will be in the top 15% of skilled pros available and they will be trained to teach movement fundamentals. Most resorts have at least one level 3 on staff. He or she won't necessarily be a Bob Barnes or a Harald Harb, but they may be able to do the job you need them to do for you.
A final note. Everyone can make contributions to Epic regardless of their skill level. Simply asking questions can be very helpful for others who have the same issues, but are not necessarily aware of them. You can also provide feedback on what tips have helped you or not helped you. Different perspectives from all walks of the sport may contribute to the information overload problem, but they are valuable nonetheless. And, of course, you can always contribute financially