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How are Volkl Supersport Allstars in Moguls?

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I'd love to hear. Thanks.
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Suck (on a basis of one demo day last year). Too stiff for a mogul ski, always wants to hold the edge (not always desirable in moguls). You can't have everything ;-) ...
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I ski mine in all situations. They do what you ask of them . Bumps take alot of body positioning and agility. I have all degress of success with them. Some skiis may very well ski better in bumps but I blame myself when my results are not what I prefer.
It's certainly not a bump specific ski but it is a good all- around ski and I heard Weems can get through the bumps pretty proficiently on his.
Don't blame the tool . The one using it makes it work or not. I'll be practicing bumps on mine in the morning in front of many critical eyes and hope to improve each day with a little help from my friends.
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I ski mine in all situations. They do what you ask of them . Bumps take alot of body positioning and agility. I have all degress of success with them. Some skiis may very well ski better in bumps but I blame myself when my results are not what I prefer.
It's certainly not a bump specific ski but it is a good all- around ski and I heard Weems can get through the bumps pretty proficiently on his.
Don't blame the tool . The one using it makes it work or not. I'll be practicing bumps on mine in the morning in front of many critical eyes and hope to improve each day with a little help from my friends.
Well said Gary. Acknowledging this, I will say that some skis make doing bumps easier than others. As for the Allstars, they are capable under a skilled handler but there are easier bump skis out there if bumps are your thing. One caveat: I suspect the 2006 version might be a bit easier in bumps than the 2007 version. I've skied the 2006 version and they did OK. Perhaps someone on this forum has contrasted the different version in the bumps.
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I have a pair of the '06 and '07 Allstars.....IMO the '06 skis a bit better in the bumps, but both are outstanding. Found the '07's to be a bit more stable, especially at speed (my '06's occasionally "wander" if I am not on top of the situation every single second). Just came back from five days at Steamboat (manged to catch "the dump!"). Also had a new pair of AC4's with me - loved them too!
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For a guy who wants an all-mountain ski, but loves doing bumps and narrow, steep trails through the trees, do ya'll recommend this ski?

I'm a pretty good, but not great, skier.
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The All Star is a great hard snow carver but IMO it takes a pretty skilled pilot to ski in difficult conditions. It is pretty easy to go overkill in the high end carve category, but if you want the absolute best grip available, the AS is right there. OTH, there are other skis from Volkl and others that will grip nearly as well as the AS but be forgiving enough for the odd terrain you might find yourself in. The Racetiger Ti from Volkl is a nice alternative as is the Nordica Speedmachine 12, Atomic Izor 9.7, Dynastar Contact 11, and Fischer RX-8.

SJ
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For a guy who wants an all-mountain ski, but loves doing bumps and narrow, steep trails through the trees, do ya'll recommend this ski?

I'm a pretty good, but not great, skier.
As everyone said, a good pilot will ski everything on any ski, but some skis will make the job easier. From what you describe, the All-Star is not going to make your job easier. It is a stable hard-snow carver that rewards top skills. If you don't pay attention to it, this ski will try hold its own line, which is not necessarily a good thing in narrow steep trails in trees. Sounds like you may need to demo some more...


GaryZ- Of course it is possible to ski bumps on Allstars (and I did too), but would you pick them as your bump ski? I would definitely not...
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I'd love to hear. Thanks.
Where do you ski? East or West?
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I liked the 07 Allstar in the bumps. By way of comparison, my Superspeeds are just plain brutal in bumps.
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Thread Starter 
I live in East and ski out West.

I've had some trouble identifying a good all-mountain ski that is perhaps more forgiving in the bumps and doing quick turns in the powder.

I could probably demo out in the Vail area in about a month, but I was hoping to support my local ski shop by buying skis there. They recommended the Volkl Supersport S5, but I've read some online reviews indicating the S5 has the same issues as the Allstar and, although more forgiving, is perhaps less versatile than the Allstar.
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The AS will have marginally better grip than the S5 and probably a higher top end. OTH, the S5 being slightly softer would be more forgiving, easier in bumps, and slightly easier in soft snow. I can't see how this makes the AS more versatile. If anything, the reverse is the case.

SJ
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GaryZ- Of course it is possible to ski bumps on Allstars (and I did too), but would you pick them as your bump ski? I would definitely not...
I would think something a little easier to bend with perhaps a lifted tail for a easier release would be preferable in the bumps. Maybe a a Dyna 8000 or something similar.
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