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Are Custom Footbeds really neccessary?

post #1 of 17
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I am contemplating whether to get custom footbeds. but are they really neccessary? are there any experts on this forum. Will I be able to post a picture of my feet and stance to get an independent opinion whether I need them or not.
post #2 of 17
If you want to be a better ski and if you want your boot to fit better, then yes they are necessary. . I went without for most of my ski career. At some point I got fed up with the boot fit problems and pluncked down the $100 for the custom footbeds and some slight tinkering to my boots. I have had happy feet ever since. Wish I'd done it when I was younger.

My wife got hers put in two years ago after I suggested that she really would benefit from them, and that it wasn't her skis that were holding her back. It was an overnight improvement to her skiing. And I mean it was very noticeable how much better she carved with a foot that was sitting properly in the boot to better transmit her imputs to the ski. I used to ski down a run, stop and wait for her. I remember after she got her footbeds put in and skiing down a run, stopping and turning to look up the hill for her, only to see her go flying by me arcing beautiful turns.

I don't think you'll get anyone on here saying tat footbeds aren't worth it. If your budget is tight you have different options that are better than nothing at all.
post #3 of 17
Yes, in short...spend the extra $100 or so dollars and have a custom footbed made. I'm using a Head RS 80 boot from last year that has a custom footbed (surefoot) and man, after using a stock footbed from an older Nordica boot...it's a world of difference. I also had the inner lining of the Head boot head molded as well. I used to go home at the end of the day (I'm only 27) my feet killed. But now I can ski all day with no problems. Don't overlook how important the bootfitting process is...spend a good hour or two with a knowledgeable bootfitter and get a good fitted boot if you haven't already. As people say, it's the connection from the skiier to the boot versus the ski that can make a truly better ripper. That's my two cents.
post #4 of 17
I think it depends upon you feet, sking style, and boots. I have Nordica Trend's that I purchased off the shelf 6 years ago. They fit perfectly. When the foot bed wore out, I put a pair of Dr. Shoals sport insoles in. My boots are always comfortable, and my feet never hurt or get tired prematurely.

My Brother on the other hand is one whose feet will bother him from the first run when wearing stock boots. He was fitted and had custom liners made and still experiences problems, but not nearly as bad as before.
post #5 of 17

You may not think you would benefit from custom footbeds but you dont know until you try them. Just because everything seems fine with the stock footbed and then the Dr Scholls footbed replacement doesnt mean that your performance wouldnt improve with custom footbeds. I dont think everyone has to use them, thats not what Im saying. Im just saying that if you havent tried them yet then you dont know whether they can help you.
post #6 of 17
I haven't found custom footbeds to be worth it or needed. In fact, just the opposite. I now use an after market moszkito footbed, and find my skiing and comfort are both better off now. But then I do my own bot work too, and spend a lot of time on fit.
post #7 of 17
The problem with most the opinions here is that they seem to combine footbeds with bootwork and then attribute all the wonderful effects to the footbeds. If you want to credit footbeds with the changes, you can only change the footbeds. No fair doing several things at one time and then trying to assign responsibility. Scientific research methods 101.

Ric I'm with you. Well for the most part.

post #8 of 17
Interesting. I will keep reading before I post.
post #9 of 17
One bootfitter I worked with (at Northern Ski Works in Killington, Vermont) was measuring my feet for a new set of boots. He said that my feet are rigid enough that they really don't move a whole lot between a relaxed weightless position and a weighted standing position. He claimed I really didn't need anything more then a generic after-market footbed in there. I got one made anyway just for the peace-of-mind of knowing my foot was stable in there.

At my most recent boot shopping experience (GMOL, in Vermont) they made the footbeds without doing an analysis of whether or not you really need them.
post #10 of 17
Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
Interesting. I will keep reading before I post.
I want to know more about Moszkitos.
post #11 of 17
Originally Posted by comprex View Post
I want to know more about Moszkitos.

I use the 50.00 rigid, which is really only half rigid. It gives nice heel support and stabilization while allowing very effective ankle articulation for me. My feet no longer get tired after skiing all day, and I'm in my boots all day long five days a week. I first tried them after DavidM had lead me through my first boot mods. I skied the boots for awhile but felt that that I wanted something more comfortable than the factory foot bed which seemed too abrasive, for lack of a better word. Bought the moszkito and never looked back. You need a couple of simple measurements for the fit. I don't know how the mailorder measuring kit works though, as I get mine in my local shop.
post #12 of 17
Ahh...but bad custom foot beds suck. Thus my present situation. My feet hurt now that I had custom footbeds made for my present boots. My feet were fine with the stock footbeds. After 12 days on my present boots I had footbeds made. My skiing improved, but my feet hurt. After having the custom beds modified three times, I gave up and bought some Surefeet green footbeds for $35 today. Report to follow.

I would rather loose a little performance for the sake of enjoying skiing. Skiing shouldn't hurt (unless you crash ).

I should note that with my old recreational level boots (Solomon Performa), I had footbeds made by the same outfit and they were wonderful in all respects. For some reason it ain't working this time. We're talkin' 2006 Solomon Elipise (sp?) boots.

I will to go to another outfit and try again, but I need to take a break from the frustration.
post #13 of 17
The problem with most footbeds and the understanding of most shops making footbeds is that the thought has been planted that the foot must be supported to prevent pronation.

The problem with the concept is that feet were made to pronate. It is built into the system. For walking, running, skipping, jumping and yes possibly to a lesser degree depending on knee position but even skiing. Remove it and the system stops functiong as it was intended. It affects balance, subtlty, smoothness into turn.

If you block with a firm footbed the foot into neutral you will generally experience arch cramps and other foot and possibly knee pain. It footbeds help the vast majority ski better it is purely psychological. As in these are comfortable, i'm really in touch with my boots, what a beautiful sun shiny day it is too ski. Isn't life grand. You get the picture.

find a good fitter with experience in alignment and the equipment necessary to get it correct. Get ramp angle correct, binding position correct. Then you will ski much better. Add in a good liner such as Zipfit and you will ski better. Finally get a custom (not a green superfoot) footbed and smile at the additonal comfort.

You are done! Go ski
post #14 of 17
I have very rigid feet and I find that I don't need custom footbeds. I have 2 different custom footbeds, plus the factory footbed, and they all ski the same, and my right foot always becomes uncomfortable after a few days. I can ski with anything, even a rental boot, on my left foot. I'm still looking for the perfect solution that will work all the time.

post #15 of 17
Perfect solution is easy. Go to experienced and knowledgeable fitter (not necessarily synonomous) and get right boot fixed.

post #16 of 17
Originally Posted by race510 View Post
Perfect solution is easy. Go to experienced and knowledgeable fitter (not necessarily synonomous) and get right boot fixed.

That's how I got the 3 pairs of footbeds I have now. I'm thinking an off the shelf footbed may work as well or better than what I have. My foot is so rigid that I don't need much support, so I'm really only looking for something that will be comfortable for an entire week.

post #17 of 17
I also have same sort of issue...left foot is fine in my ortho but right is never right..i removed right ortho and use a stock footbed in boot and a arch support under liner in boot .Seems to be the best option so far in my kryptons with zipfit liner.I am now trying the intuitions from last yr with same setup.Been playing with 3 different liners over 20 days of skiing this yr and just want to buckle boots once in morning and not unbuckle till i remove
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