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Shell Pants Layering Tips??

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
As I posted in another thread I picked up some Gortex shell pants.
This is the first time I have strayed from insulated pants.
I mainly have questions or concerns regarding cold days as during the warm days its pretty obvious.....wear less under the shells.

I currently have a Helly Hanson Warm (Lifa with merino wool) as the base layer.
I was planning on popping some polyester running tights over that before putting on the shell.

Does that sound OK?
Should I hack off the lower part of the fleece to get rid of the excess material around my calf??

Just like the tin at the Starbucks cash register "Tips appreciated"
post #2 of 17
Deemo, I just change the thickness of the base layer for different temps; I don't layer 3 layers on my legs (they get pretty warm when I'm skiing, after all!). So, I layer anything from silkweight in the spring to expedition weight for very cold days using Capilene or Regulator insulation. I do not remove any material at the calf.

You could put another layer on, but I would expect you'd get pretty heated if you do, unless it's below 0F (-18C)
post #3 of 17
Same as SSH. I'm using the Obermeyer shell pants this year and all I use underneath is varying thicknesses of base layer.
post #4 of 17

calgary is pretty damn cold

nothing wrong with a light layer underneath expedition weight and one of those aprons for the -30f lift seat
post #5 of 17

layering

Dec 26, 2007

Dear Deemo:

A trick that I use when I ski up north and need extra warmth on a cold day is to wear a pair of tight biking shorts on top of my polypropelne base layer. This keeps my core warm and as SSH has said the legs don't get that cold (well at least my legs don't). Still waiting for cold temps so that they can replenish the snow at areas around the mason-dixon line.

CharlieP
post #6 of 17
Burn those frequent flier miles, CharlieP... The snow's been coming pretty consistently out here... Just try to miss the overnight storm on Thursday into Friday. With the way DIA is digging out, it's likely to create another mess...
post #7 of 17
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by ssh View Post
Burn those frequent flier miles, CharlieP... The snow's been coming pretty consistently out here... Just try to miss the overnight storm on Thursday into Friday. With the way DIA is digging out, it's likely to create another mess...
Yes and thanks to the good advice I will be trying them out tomorrow.
Thanks guys
Looking good for Banff from the cam tonight:


and a weather warning out.....especially for Fernie.
post #8 of 17
I usually wear two layers under my shell pants for everything but the warmest days. The first layer is a mid-weight poly. The second is a heavier pair of fleece like sweat pants(probably the first pair of fleece pants ever made by the looks of them!). Both layers are hacked off just below the knee. I never have to worry about bunching up or tucking in. I really am in need of some new layers but it kills me to buy expensive stuff just to cut off the bottoms. One day I'll break down and do it, though.
post #9 of 17
I am with ssh. One base layer under shell pants. I have a 3 or 4 choices in base layers - lightweight to expedition weight. There have been a couple of extremely cold days when I combined the lightweight layer with expedition, but those days are few and far between.
post #10 of 17
On the really cold days just wear an "expedition" level base layer and keep your junk warm with an extra layer of depends under-garments.
post #11 of 17
All you need under a gore tex shell pant is a good pair of power strech termals and a pair of cool max type underwear . I have a pair of mountain hardwear and obermeyer power strech that I use and thats pretty good to about 0 degrees .If its colder use you could use a second pair of regular midweight termals on top but I hardly ever need that. Also I've been checking out the CR-X insulator conditioning termals they might be a interesting alternative but there a little pricey at $95.00
post #12 of 17
here ya go
everything youll need for layering
http://forums.epicski.com/showthread...189#post623189
post #13 of 17
I wear Polartec 200 fleece pants under my shells on cold days. www.sierratradingpost.com has them for $20. They also have vests and jackets.
post #14 of 17
I wear just one layer under my shell pants, unless it's single digits and windy. Then I wear a pair of capiline light weight base layer with a sweat pant. Won't take you long to figure out what works for you with a few days on the hill.
post #15 of 17

suprising

I find it suprising how little many of you wear under a Gore-Tex shell pant. Do you all wear only a midweight base layer under a Gore-Tex shell jacket? If not, why would you insulate your legs differently from your upper body? I'm truly curious.

I wear a Gore-Tex M.H. shell with a zip-in fleece (Ozone), and anything from silk weight to mid weight base layer, and a mock t-neck on most days unless it's really warm (above 35 F). My pants are an Obermeyer w/ light insulation, and a mid weight or expedition weight baselayer for 15 F or below.

I just bought some Gore-Tex shell pants as well, and can understand some difference in layering, but not this drastic. If you fleece your chest and arms, why not the legs assuming no insulation. Thanks.
post #16 of 17

The Core, the core.

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Originally Posted by dmoney24 View Post
I find it suprising how little many of you wear under a Gore-Tex shell pant. Do you all wear only a midweight base layer under a Gore-Tex shell jacket? If not, why would you insulate your legs differently from your upper body? I'm truly curious.

I wear a Gore-Tex M.H. shell with a zip-in fleece (Ozone), and anything from silk weight to mid weight base layer, and a mock t-neck on most days unless it's really warm (above 35 F). My pants are an Obermeyer w/ light insulation, and a mid weight or expedition weight baselayer for 15 F or below.

I just bought some Gore-Tex shell pants as well, and can understand some difference in layering, but not this drastic. If you fleece your chest and arms, why not the legs assuming no insulation. Thanks.
Dec 27, 2006

Dear Dmoney:

If you keep the core warm, usually you stay warm. By the core I mean from the crotch up to your head (with the head being the most important element, not just because of the lack of brains). So for my upper body, starting with my head, I wear a helmet, a high tech (from running) t-shirt or tank top, a light or medium weight patagonia capiliene layer, (a polar fleece if needed) shell jacket. Patagonia silk weight under shorts, polypro tights (biking shorts if needed). In my ski bag, I always carry a light weight 100% wool sweater, long sleeve cotton shirt (one you usually get from running a 10k in the fall) and a shirt sleeve cotton shirt (one you get from running a 5k other times). If needed, I will come in and add as required.

The legs seem to be impervious to cold since I've heard that not as many blood vessels (or nerve endings, I can't recall which) run down our legs. The one exception is that our feet are prone to getting cold, go figure. I was out running this moring in 38 degree weather in my running shorts and my legs didn't feel a thing.

SSH: ran out of frequent flyer miles in the summer since I had to take the misses out for her summer fix, so I could ski the mud in the winter :.

CharlieP
post #17 of 17

thanks

Very helpful. Thanks!
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