EpicSki › The Barking Bear Forums › On the Snow (Skiing Forums) › Ski Gear Discussion › Help choose successor to Dynastar Speed Carve 63
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Help choose successor to Dynastar Speed Carve 63

post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 
I'm 33, male, 5'8" and about 200lbs. I've been skiing casually for about 20 years, so my skills are reasonably sharp. I favor short and medium turns, but do everthing except bumps, parks and deep powder. (Nothing against powder, but I've never been anyplace that gave me the opportunity.)

My wife and I just got back from Lake Louise, Banff, Alberta. (Awesome place. We loved it.) What I learned was, I'm fat and out of shape, and skiing with my beginer wife means that I'm doing more slow cruising than I used to. I also used to ski the east more than the west, which is changing. I think I'd prefer a ski with better crud performance and a lower sweet-spot speed.

My current sticks are Dynastar Speed Carve 63 170's with the Look Pivot 14 bindings. They are everything I used to love in a ski: Fast, have awesome pop, turn like a roller coaster, and hold like crazy on any sort of hard surface. Thay are also better suited to somebody that skiis more often than I do and is in better shape than me.

So which ski has good energy in short turns, above average hard-pack hold, but floats better in crud and powder, and is fun at moderate speeds instead of just high speeds? (It would be nice if they were lighter, too...) The main thing I'm willing to give up compared to the Dynos is top speed stability, but I know other sacrifices are innevitable. I was looking at the Atomic Izor 9:7. Is that a good choice?

Also, does anybody sell just skis anymore? I love my Looks, and would be just as happy keeping them rather than getting the binding du jour.

Thanks,
Mickey


P.S. I live in Kansas City, so demo's are pretty much out of the question, unfortunatly. The local "hill" wouldn't tell me much anyway!
post #2 of 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by mmakay View Post
So which ski has good energy in short turns, above average hard-pack hold, but floats better in crud and powder, and is fun at moderate speeds instead of just high speeds? (It would be nice if they were lighter, too...) The main thing I'm willing to give up compared to the Dynos is top speed stability, but I know other sacrifices are innevitable.
Since you are already familliar with the Dynastars, pick up a pair of 2004/05 SkiCross 09 or 10 online for under $200. I have the 09's and they are wonderful for the terrain and technique you want to ski. They will give you similar energy, rebound and feel to the Speed Carve in a package that is more forgiving and floats much better.
Also, the Look binders are a bolt on to the Autodrive plate.

Good Luck!

PS Shame to give up the Speed Carve 63's. They were a ski of the year back in 2000. I have and still ski their bigger brother, SkiCross 66.

PPS I also skied Lake Louise in April and spent several days in deep powder in the back bowls off of the Summit Platter.
post #3 of 18
If the Speed 63s still have life in them, maybe you want to hold onto them and ski them when you have solo days, or when your wife is taking a lesson?

You may be asking for too much from a ski, though. In my experience, no ski in the world is going to make going slow on flat groomed cruisers much fun for very long.
post #4 of 18
I also have a pair of them. They rock. Prior to that, I had the original Speed SX that was also an awesome ski. I now use the 63's as rock skis. My main ski is the Fischer RX8 but with your stated goals, I wouldn't recommend it. Maybe a Fischer AMC 73 or 76.

Why not wait until your next trip and demo a group of skis?

edit to add that flat skis (those without integrated bindings) are available. Demo the Legend 4800 by Dynastar. They are available on the net at some great prices.
post #5 of 18
I agree with WmCraven - last year I replaced by Speed 63 with a pair of SkiCross 10s (the 9s are softer and more foregiving). The Skicross 10s are a blast to ski. There are some good deals to be found on the internet on Skicross 9s and 10s.

The Dynastar 4800s are a good choice as an all mountain cruiser.

The 2007 Dynastar Contact 10 and 11s are also good all mountain skis and are worth taking a look at.
post #6 of 18
Thread Starter 
I've read that the Skicross 9/10 weren't particularly good in crud, which was one thing I wanted to improve over the 63. Did you guys have different experiences than that?


-Mickey
post #7 of 18
You gonna ski crud with your beginner wife? That's not so very realistic.

But at 200+ lbs, your choices for a "go slow" ski are pretty limited. Pretty much any beginner ski is too soft, and once it is stiff enough, you'll want to go faster.....

I'd say try something that you can easily pivot and skid, that does not want to always be on edge. Rossi B2 perhaps?
post #8 of 18

178cm Dynastar Contact 11

Hi M,

Consider this: http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=48768

Michael
post #9 of 18
M666
post #10 of 18
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigE View Post
You gonna ski crud with your beginner wife? That's not so very realistic.
Well, the typical scenerio is we ski 1 together, then she ski's 1 run alone while I grab 2 or 3 solo runs, etc.

The lower speed limit is more about me being out of shape than having to ski with her. We are out west more I used to be, so something that handles crud and occasional powder better than the 63 is important too. Maybe that describes the Ski Cross perfectly, I just wanted to be sure.


Does anybody know what model this is?: http://www.evogear.com/Dynastar/outl...=KNC-Shopzilla
post #11 of 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by mmakay View Post

Does anybody know what model this is?: http://www.evogear.com/Dynastar/outl...=KNC-Shopzilla
This is a cheap Cap construction/foam core ski. Beginners and children only.
post #12 of 18
mmakay:

If you are interested,I have a '04-'05 Ski Cross 10, this is the real one, mounted with LOOK P-12 demo bindings. Either 178 or 170 size is available at $275 + shipping.

These are intro skis, hand tuned by the best tuner that I know, and have only been skied by a little old lady from Pasadena. Condition is 98% on base and top sheet.

SJ
post #13 of 18
I have some 170cm 2003/2004 SkiCross 10s which are the same as the one's Sierra Jim is selling except for graphic. They are my hard snow skis but I do use them in crud on top of hard snow where I think they excel. I've tried carving skis from Volkl, Fischer, Rossi and Head and I still prefer my SkiCross 10s. (I am looking forward to demoing the new Contact 11.)
post #14 of 18
The SkiCross 10s are very lively on the snow as opposed to the damp feeling from other skis (I find damp = dead). Salomon's Crossmax skis are also critized for the lively feeling they transmit. The SkiCross feel more sports car like, while more damp skis feel like I'm driving a 1980s cadillac with no feedback or sensation of what is happening.

I've never had a problem with my SkiCross 10s in the crud. Rather that plowing through the crud, its better to carve through the crud.
post #15 of 18
Thread Starter 
Siera Jim,
Tempting at the price, though I don't really like the idea of demo bindings. Interesting in selling them sans binders?

SkiNut,
I agree with you about "damp" skis. Some that I have tried, notably the Rossi Bandits and some Volkls, have felt dead like that. I like my skis lively.
post #16 of 18
I think the things like the 4800 are going to be too noodly for you, most midfats in fact will lack the pop that you are looking for on hardsnow.
The skicross series is a good one, the older 10's are pretty decent, but I honestly liked the old 66's and 63's more.
What about something like a Stockli Stormrider xl or the like. They're stiffer, good edgehold for a fatter ski. Turn radius isn't super tight, but they'll be more adept in variable snow.
post #17 of 18
Dynastar ski cross 11

Atomic SX 11

Put them on your radar. I use to have a pair of 63's They were replaced by omecarve 10's cuz they're real turny. At a demo day, the sx11 worked great -- I really liked the ski.

The ski cross 11 looks very interesting. Vertical sidewalls throughout from Dynastar. Have not tried it, but it's worth a look.
post #18 of 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by mmakay View Post
Siera Jim,
Tempting at the price, though I don't really like the idea of demo bindings. Interesting in selling them sans binders?

SkiNut,
I agree with you about "damp" skis. Some that I have tried, notably the Rossi Bandits and some Volkls, have felt dead like that. I like my skis lively.
Normally I might because I use demo bindings on a lot of my own skis. (I like the ability to move fore and aft on the ski) However, I have several pr. of Pivot demos stashed and I don't have the need to keep any more, so, these need to go as is.

SJ
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Ski Gear Discussion
EpicSki › The Barking Bear Forums › On the Snow (Skiing Forums) › Ski Gear Discussion › Help choose successor to Dynastar Speed Carve 63