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I just did a blog post today about "ski porn" and the state of the ski-movie genre. http://snowskiingonline.blogspot.com/2010/11/opinion-ski-porn-should-not-define-ski.html
I was curious what Bears thought on the topic, so I came on here this evening and found this thread from 2003. Not much has changed, many of the comments are the same ones I wrote about earlier today. Kind of funny.
You are absolutely right, not much has changed in the genre -- I didn't even notice the age of this thread until you pointed it out.
The technology exists now to shoot, edit, and potentially publish these shows on the same day, without ever leaving the resort. Face shots at 9, sneak preview in the bar at 4. The new efficiency has benefits for the responsible filmmaker, but it is also enabling to the newer wave of young 'pornographers' who need their satisfaction ASAP, style and content be damned. Viewing dailies and assembling a rough cut in the bar after a few days of shooting is a huge workflow improvement -- but haphazardly stringing together a bunch of 20-second shots from that morning and posting them up on Facebook that afternoon typically produces invigorating yet mediocre material. Great for music videos and highlights, but watching 90 minutes of that can be exhausting. But I'm old.
Having said that -- the "5-minute ski porn" clip that was posted last week, which in itself forced me to sign up on this forum, was not only inspirational, but I had to clean up after watching it.
I was on a lift yesterday which serves one of the parks. These two guys - I'm trying to stay away from saying "kids" lately, but y'know, those damn kids today - were talking about some sick ollie backflip jump goofy thing or another they were gong to shoot. One said he'd "edit it up real quick" and post it.
One commented to me that he was supposed to go to a movie with his girl, but decided to go boarding instead. Good man.
I understand. After all, there's a reason Warren Miller's films are so popular.
The cinematography in Signatures is definitely well-done and was pleasing to watch. It's a different, slower pace than the typical rock music ski porn. However, it still lacks a narrative. It touches on a potential storyline and central character briefly when the Gentemstick snowsurf founder talks about his philosophy of expressing himself with the terrain. I wanted more about his story. Who is this guy? How did his idea for the snowboard designs he invented evolve? There might even be more to the angle of an Eastern (as in Japan not Vermont ) approach to his time on the mountain. Also, the snowboards look like they're hand-crafted. Maybe he'd have something interesting to say about his designs being basically an "art form." It would be interesting to hear his thoughts as to how his traditional Japanese culture has influenced (or maybe even diverges from) the mindset that he and other modern Japanese snowsports enthusiasts have in looking at nature and the mountains.
In other words, my guess is that you could tell this guy's story and in the process come away with some interesting insights about his culture, art and who knows what else beyond just sliding on snow.
By the way
Here's an article I found about his snowboard company http://espn.go.com/action/snowboarding/blog/_/post/4977131
I rather agree with much of what everyone say here.
I no longer watch ski movies with the same excitement I used to. In fact I rarely watch them, period. I cannot relate to them because they are all about hucking and doing lines which I simply cannot do. Sure it is nice to see a little of that, but after a while it gets old. Same for mountain bike movies. The odd, freaky free ride is nice to watch, but the skills and abilities of the riders are so far out of my reach (and I am a decent XC rider). These movies should excite and motivate us to some extent, but how can I be motivated by watching something I cannot relate to?
Yes, part of the problem is that I am getting old and the generation gap is making it hard to relate to some of this stuff. That's life, I guess.
Top to bottom? Continuous lines are hard to shoot.
Hi Jclayton, I am with you, I like to see lines from top to bottom too in movies. So far I haven't had the chance to have somebody up in the helicopter to film our non-stop runs in Big Sky, but I tried a helmet cam and if you can handle the wobble, check out the link to a YouTube video.
How about giving our new film "Out of the Shadows" a try? For a "pay what you want" rate you can't go wrong. We show lots of lines top to bottom. We also strive to tell stories behind the skiing, but without boring athlete interviews. We strived big time to make a different kind of ski film. dendritestudios.com
Winner of Best Big Mountain Film of 2010 at If3 and oh ya did I mention you can buy this for the change sitting in your pocket?