Cooper, well said also.. We do not need full blown, top notch, bullet proof gear to go climbing somewhere in the Artic on (The North Side of the mountain) where it is plain Siberian cold weather way below Zero. I think most people on this thread are comparing apples and oranges. About your comment on Arc'Teryx that seemed very stiff and movement inside of it was very restricted, that is how I felt in the $300 TNF shell in the local store when I tried it on. Compared to Descente jacket, which felt very soft, top notch fit and feel, the fabric of Descente and Spyder are just so soft and comfy, they are not made to climb the Artic, but should be fine for everyday 20-30 degree weather skiing, and that is what most of us need. Again, I have not tried Arc'Terix, Marmot, NTF top notch shells for $400-$500 to compare. You are correct, you do not need an SUV to go grocery shopping. There are a few Spyder and Descente jackets that are not to flashy and loud, but they are the $550 jackets and could only be used in cold weather and you would need another kind of shell or soft shell jacket for warmer spring weather, otherwise I would get one and be done with it, that is why I started to look into shell jackets to be used with fleece underneath or no fleece just base for warmer weather or get a soft shell jacket on a side also.
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1/14/07 at 10:24am