or Connect
EpicSki › The Barking Bear Forums › On the Snow (Skiing Forums) › General Skiing Discussion › Speeding Tickets and Radar Detectors
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Speeding Tickets and Radar Detectors - Page 2

post #31 of 129
To be honest I have no clue as to if we have POP rader??
We just received 3 new lasers thou. They work 10x better then radar.
post #32 of 129
The thing I love about LIDAR is that you never have any question about which vehicle you are tracking for the speed! With RADAR, you have to listen to the tones and use your visual experience to track and determine which vehicle the unit is receiving a signal from. LIDAR is what everyone calls a laser but it is not relly a laser. Personally, I love to use a VASCAR for time over distance speeds. It gives an average speed over the distance traveled and it is not detectable in any way unless they see you, which is the same as pacing a vehicle like Thor said.

The RADAR technology is changing all the time and so is the technology of the detectors. I personally always see a car that I can tell is speeding before I ever turn a RADAR on. I don't know any officers that run around with a RADAR just on in an active tracking mode.

I would say don't try screwy excuses when you get stopped. I really don't care if you have to go to the bath room really bad! I always suggest that you pull over right away and be honest and non-arguementative. Honest and sincere will often get a break from me. If you disagree, just keep your mouth shut and come to court. Traffic court does not take place on the side of the road. I personally start stopping at about 10 over but it depends on where it is. In rural areas, 10 over will usually get a warning as long as you are wearing a seat belt. 15 over is pushing it but if they are nice they will often get a break. In areas where we cover lots of crashes, traffic gets congested, or there are lots of pedestrians, my tolerance goes down. Most important, never drink and drive! I have zero tolerance for those who are impaired.

Also, don't tailgate, drive in the right hand lane except to pass, and yield to the right for all emergency vehicles!!! If you see flashing lights behind you, pull over to the right in a careful manner and allow the emergency vehicle to get around you. Drive smart, drive careful, and call ahead if you are going to be late!

If you got skis in your rack or boots in your seat, I might give you a break too. I will even do that if you have a board!
Ty [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]
post #33 of 129
Every time I've ever been stopped, I've always been courteous & polite, & always gotten the "full boat" written up. This happened a few times when I was younger, and once about 2 years ago.

The final straw was that day 2 Christmases ago. I was driving on a small twisty road through a small town not too far from our home. I had come to a full stop up the road, waiting for a landscaping truck to make a left hand turn. According to the officer, he clocked me at 51 in a 35. I went back & measured the distance from where I had been stopped, and where he would have first been able to track me(he told me where he was positioned, & it was in the "report" I requested). I was driving an 8 year old Ford station wagon at the time, & it didn't even like getting up to highway speeds on straight level road. According to the math, to reach 51 MPH from where I was at a full stop, to where I was clocked, I would have had to accelerate at a rate which would put me in contention for the Indy 500. Not much point arguing the case either. It was a small town courthouse, & the officer who stopped me was the one sitting next to the judge collecting the fines. Lesson learned. Fool me once, your fault. Fool me twice, my fault.

Having said that, I'm always amazed by some of the driving behaviour I see on the roads. You adjust speed for congestion, weather, visibility, road layout, etc. etc. I learned to drive in northern Europe, where the licencing requirements and speed limits are much higher than in the US. I don't have a problem with the troopers going after some of the true loons out there, who seem to have a death wish for themselves & others. Too often, though, they are not the ones who get caught. Setting up a speed trap at the bottom of a long staight hill is just a lazy way of gettin tickets written. You end up catching a bunch of people who weren't paying enough attention as they rolled down the hill.

No question that the detector will only signal once you POP the radar on. That's why I always pay attention to whether there is a car in front of me. They get POPed, I'll pick it up. No car visible ahead? I slow down.

Just a question on the instant on speed readings you are getting. What type of radar unit are you using when you tested the detectors?

[ January 23, 2004, 07:28 AM: Message edited by: PerSwede ]
post #34 of 129
If you spend enough time on the road it isn't hard to tell when a vehicle is exceeding the speed limit. You kind of get an eye for it. Not matter what type of gadgets you get if you speed frequently you will get nailed by ol'smokey. 10-4. It took me over 3 million miles to figure that 1 out. :
post #35 of 129
I use the Escort 8500, it works really well, the main advantage of the V1 is it has directional arrows to locate the radar. Escort also makes a laser shifter that's supposed to work well confusing the Lidar gun. The Feb. issue of Motor Trend tests the different detectors, the Escort, V1 and Bel were all very close, they gave the nod to the Escort based on price and features I think.

The Escort has saved me numerous times, but now I mainly set the cruise about 8-10 over the limit. The instant on guns make it tough, there still seem to be more Ka units that are on all the time though. Some of the Western states have a 75 limit, so if I can cruise at 83-85 and be comfortable, it's much better than going way over the limit and being on edge about what kind of radar's out there.
post #36 of 129
This looks sexy:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=38654&item=2456217 168

As to radar detectors, how about false signals. That's another thing that put me off them after having various brands over the years. The thing beeping all time, eventually you start tuning it out.
post #37 of 129
Originally posted by Scalce:

2 years ago I got nabbed in Woodstock, VT but I think ost people have at one time in there life as the cops are real jerks. I got nailed coming down a hill when the speed limited changed and he got me right after the sign going 10 over the speed limit. That ticket was like $130 and the only speeding ticket I have ever recieved.

Last Monday I got nailed in a similar instance in Sunappe, NH where the speed limit goes from 50 to 35 and he got me right after the sign as I was slowing down. He was really nice and let me off without even a warning.

I drive up Rout 7 to Killington. Been nabbed there 2x's in 5 years. The good thing about Vermont is that ty have REDUCED SPEED AHEAD signs posted. After my first ticket, I stay pretty close to te speed limit. The second one, well, I just got a new car with a subsantial improvement in HP and got a little stupid. The time you save speeding is offset y the time on the side of the road.
post #38 of 129
Thread Starter 
I try to pay attention as much as possible to signs but last Monday it was sleeting and I was paying close attention to the road.

I missed the sign but the cop also gunned me right at the sign because he pointed to it after he pulled me over.

I figure a combination of driving responsibly and using the V1 gives me a better chance than most.
post #39 of 129
OK, here we go. I've been trying to resist posting because it'll probably get me into trouble somehow, but here's a little secret info. I am not really a sherpa. In fact, I am radar trained, although I no longer use radar in my presesnt job description. I am bigger than a breadbox. Can you guess what I am?

Ssshhh...that's right, let's keep it quiet. 21 years and counting. Never heard of "POP" mode, and it's probably irrelevant as to whether it's accurate or not within the first second or two. I've used a laser, which is great for heavy traffic, but a pain otherwise because it's heavy and bulky. I preferred to use a handheld Stalker ATR unit which is Ka band.

Around here (Long Island) we're trained not to use a burst from the radar gun as a basis for a vehicle's speed. Many traffic judges won't accept a cop's testimony that he nailed a vehicle's speed during a quick burst like that, even though the guns I've used are deadly accurate, instantly.

The only way I've ever clocked speed is by making a visual estimation of speed FIRST, and then using the radar ONLY to back that up, or to narrow it down. Anybody can guess a vehicle's speed to within ~ +/- 5 MPH with a little practice. Once I picked a location, I'd watch vehicles and estimate their speed, usually based on landmarks of some kind. Using the radar to verify my estimated speed quickly trained me to estimate speed pretty accurately.

Calibration (a misnomer) of the radar gun with tuning forks only needs to be done prior to using the gun at each location, and then after issuing a ticket. So the radar gun is actually a highly accurate device for backing up your visual "expert testimony" on speed, as well as to nail down an exact number. I know you're 15-20mph over before I even pull the trigger, so that POP mode business is moot for me.

If you get nailed coming around a bend by a burst of radar, they probably got the speed right ( with the error always in your favor whenever there's an angle involved anyhow) but in that case, it would be awfully hard for the cop to say he visually estimated your speed as well. I'd hire a lawyer if I got one of those. But in some small towns and Villages, you may be pissing up a rope either way.

All that stuff you've heard about radar guns clocking trees at 60 mph, is pure lawyer bunk. It's based on improper traing where the
cop hasn't set up properly and failed to verify first that his vehicle's heater fan, or power lines aren't giving off some interference, which can happen. In this environment a gun pointed at a tree can indicate a speed, but it didn't come from the tree. However, once an object with a mass of a vehicle enters the gun's range, any of these weak signals will immediately be overridden by an accurate vehicle speed. If there's any other car within the gun's v-shaped beam, I'll see multiple accurate readings and can still know what belongs to what, however, knowing that this will be tough in court (as it should be) I'll probably wait until the next guy comes along all by himself.

Personally, I'm not really looking to ram anybody up the behind, and I always give the benefit of the doubt. Insurance companies kill people for speeding, and most cops, believe it or not, really don't want to nail somebody unless they're sure they've got the right guy.

Radar detector? I usually know you have it before you're pulled over if you're going to hit your brake the minute I pull the trigger. You might want to ditch it anyway. If you're asked - admit to the detector. Denying it will probably make you look like a wise guy. If you argue, you'll get a ticket for sure. Argue only if you know for damn sure you didn't do it, but try not to get "porky." Your best bet is to act like a gentleman, even if the guy who stopped you is an A-hole. Yep, some of them are, I could name a few, unfortunately. Cops are allowed to use some discretion for less than misdemeanor traffic offenses. Some guys actually hate writing you that ticket, some like it, but they're all usually doing it because that's what the boss said they want them to do.

15 over is a nice safe number. 5 over is pretty lame in any decent court. Small towns scare me. I'm more nervous pushing the limit south of the Mason-Dixon line, myself - not that I ever have [img]graemlins/evilgrin.gif[/img] Ha ha.

When I'm driving out of state, I can usually guess where the cops are going to sit. A nice fringe benefit - not that I'd ever need that. [img]graemlins/evilgrin.gif[/img] Heyyohh! I never speed (sound of slappin on my knee).
Speed limits do exist - why some are what they are is a mystery however

Guess I'd better shut the hell up before I make somebody mad.

Hey! Drive Safe Dammit! And for the love of Ullr, stay out of the left lane whenever possible and look in your rear view mirror at least once a day - there are thousands who don't - and if you're one of those, you're going to get it from me. :

Or am I really a sherpa? Mmmm, not really sure myself. This happens to me from time to time. Sorry. Pretty scary either way though, eh? :

[ January 24, 2004, 01:54 PM: Message edited by: Carvemeister ]
post #40 of 129
Man this place is crawling with cops. :
post #41 of 129
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all the posts and opinions.

Very iformative
post #42 of 129
As to radar detectors, how about false signals. That's another thing that put me off them after having various brands over the years. The thing beeping all time, eventually you start tuning it out.
There has been big improvements in falsing in the new detectors. Sometimes it seems like I can go for hours without falsing, and then I can get a couple in a few minutes. I'm talking about on the highway, I don't even use mine in the city, you will definitely get false signals there. Most of the false signals are X band, and I'm pretty sure you can turn off the X band in the Escort, not sure about the V1 though. I haven't seen X band radar in years, although there could be a few units out there. Sometimes I get false K signals, but Ka is almost always radar. The majority of radar in use seems to be Ka in Cali and Utah where I've mainly been lately.
post #43 of 129
Originally posted by Carvemeister:

Personally, I'm not really looking to ram anybody up the behind, and I always give the benefit of the doubt. Insurance companies kill people for speeding, and most cops, believe it or not, really don't want to nail somebody unless they're sure they've got the right guy.
Not to burst your bubble but just let me describe an incident that happened to me about two years ago that shows how some cops in your (and mine) state operate.

Exited the NYS Thruway to get on 17 South in Harriman at approximately 1:00am on a Friday (technically Saturday morning). Waited for the light to turn green. Once on 17 I got a red light at the first intersection and waited. For those unfamiliar with the area there are 3-4 light in a row then open dark four lane road with lots of deer. When the light turned green I took off quickly (did not spin my tires) since the next string of lights had been green for a while. Accelerated to 55 and turned on the cruise since the cops there are well know for strict enforcement. Made all the lights the last one turning yellow just after I went through, there was a car going the other way waiting for a left turn light. In my rearview mirror I see a car run that last light cutting off the car waiting to make the left.

This car comes right up on my butt. I pull into the right lane (I generally stay in the left lane on this section of 17 to give me more time to see deer) to let him pass and he changes lanes to stay right behind me. Tap the brakes to disengage the cruise control and slow to 45 (in a 55 mph zone). The car refuses to pass and stays right on my butt. Not knowing whats going on or why this guy is tailgating me nor and not wanting to deal with a nut in a unpopulated area I down shift to third and hit the gas. As soon as a do (before accelerating to even 50 mph) all the lights come on. I pull over turn on the interior light open the window and wait with my hands on the wheel.

The cop proceeds to ask "What the hell do you think you are doing." I loose it and tell him firmly "What the hell am I doing? What the hell are you doing? I have a car tailgating me that refuses to pass its late at night and I have no idea why." He responds "So you brake and then accelerate away? Where are you coming from and where are you going?" I respond "From a card game and I'm going home"

He takes my license and registration goes back to the cruiser. Returns 10 minutes later and tells me he could write this up but he's letting me go with a warning. I'm about to ask him a warning for what but figure I've mouthed off enough for one night.

Driving in VT I generally go 60 in the 50 and obey all other limits strictly. No one like having cars speeding through the area where they live so if its 35 I go 35, if its 45 I go 45.
post #44 of 129
OK Praggy, you've not bursted any bubles of mine. :
The first words out of your mouth are yelling at the cop? You got a warning, so what's your point? And what connection does this one minor incident in the early hours of the morning have to do with whatever anybody else does in whatever jurisdiction that was, or in any other state? Talk about a stretch!

And let's not forget that there are three sides to every story. Thanks for reinforcing my arguement. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

35 in a 35? ALWAYS? OK. : Let me guess, you have white hair and can barely see over the steering wheel?
post #45 of 129
Now now childern, [img]smile.gif[/img] lets not throw stones at all the law enforcement folks because of one bad time we had. I'm not in law enforcement, but realize there are three sides to every story. Mine, unfortunately is the paying side.

I know there never seems to be a cop around when you want one, and they're alway's there when you don't want them to see you do something stupid.

Lets of times they are out there just monitoring traffic. I have gone by them sitting on the side of the highway, while I was going faster then the posted/acceptable speed and they have not moved. It a lot about being in the right place at the right time. If there had been more traffic around, may be things would have been different.

I spend a lot of time in VT and I think the cops are fair, when you average it out. Remember they just doing there job, sometimes there job is not that pleasent.

How's that for brownie point's.
post #46 of 129
Jammers are garbage...a $400 box containing $1 worth of parts.

I've used a Valentine-1 in the past and found it quite effective.

It's unfortunate that the speed limits in the US are so low, but I think it's more unfortunate that they're so randomly enforced.
Imagine if everyone got a ticket for driving 1mph over the limit - then see how long would it take to raise the limits to a normal level.

What's normal, you ask? Well, when the Feds picked a stretch of highway and played with the speed limit signs, they found that 85% of people drove the same speed whether the sign said 40mph or 80mph.
Personally, I cruise to work at 80mph in a 55mph zone every morning, along with everyone else in the left lane.

See www.motorists.org for info on fighting tickets, speed traps, etc.
post #47 of 129
Originally posted by DiamondDave:
...What's normal, you ask? Well, when the Feds picked a stretch of highway and played with the speed limit signs, they found that 85% of people drove the same speed whether the sign said 40mph or 80mph.
Personally, I cruise to work at 80mph in a 55mph zone every morning, along with everyone else in the left lane...
You're exactly right. The fact is that the vast majority of people drive at the speed which is reasonable for that particular stretch of roadway. Many speed limits are set to control the handful of people who are unsafe driving at any speed.

Politics often dictate the placement of many traffic control signs and devices. I have seen many cases of stop signs being placed where there is absolutely no reason for one; because somebody either had connections, or whined so much that he needed one in front of his house, so they gave him one to shut him up, (even though there's another one 100' down the road).

When these things aren't used wisely, people don't respect them, and who can blame them. Unfortunately, the same guy who whined for a 30 mph speed limit on his road with the double yellow line, spends most of his spare time looking out his window and calling the police and writing letters to local legislators complaining that the cops aren't doing their job because some people are still driving too fast or because a couple of cars didn't come to a full stop.

Then guess what - it trickles all the way down to the cop who you see sitting behind the ridiculous stop sign or the ridiculous speed zone. This may all sound very cynical, but anybody that tells you it isn't true is playing politics with you as well. None of this excuses the cop from being rude, and we all know that happens at times, but most of us are just doing what we're told to do.

I was once a 23 year old knucklehead myself, and have been on the recieving end of some bad Police karma as well. I've gotten tickets, and I've gotten breaks I probably didn't deserve. So I think I can still speak somewhat from both sides. I like to return the favor myself once in a while. Giving the right guy (or even better - girl ) a break once in a while is an underestimated artform in itself. [img]graemlins/evilgrin.gif[/img]
post #48 of 129
Here's one... anybody ever get nabbed by an airplane? You've seen the signs in the country about speed patroled by aircraft. Anybody know how accurate this is? I was tagged once coming out of the Sierras, down I-80. I'm the only person I know that had this happen. Cop pulled up to me (I was already in traffic at this point and going BELOW the speed limit) and pulled me over. Said their plane clocked me at 20 over. I always wondered how accurate that would be...

I was on my way home in SF after having driven out to Jackson, WY. Easily averaged 10-20 over the limit while driving out there and back but I don't get a ticket till I'm within 3 hours of home.
post #49 of 129
Cali. is well know for aircraft patrol on it's Interstates. Yes it is very accurate. Ever notice the white hash marks on the shoulder? That's how they compute your speed. I've spoken to them a few times on the CB radio while they were monitoring traffic. I've delt w/ alot of cops in 30 years of trucking. Most are fair desent people. Few are not. Most of the citations I have received were deserved. They are underpaid and have a thankless job that I for one would not want. I would like to just say thanks to all the law enforcement people out there for doing their job.
post #50 of 129
Do the math. Leave the house about ten minutes early and I relax for the ride. I drive above the limit (6 to 9 over) and haven't been stopped in about twenty years.

Drive like a nut, spend big bucks and for what? "Bragging rights" that I can make it from point X to point Y in two hours?

Get your gas and have the car packed the night before will save time too.

A flight instructor put in in perspective one day when I put it to the firewall to "get home for dinner". His wisdom ... "Your job is to get there ... not get there on time". I drive about 200 miles per day and I think of his words at least once a week.

The "instant-on" radars made me put the Escort in a box and I wouldn't even know where to start looking for it.

[ January 26, 2004, 06:08 PM: Message edited by: yuki ]
post #51 of 129
Originally posted by slider:
Cali. is well know for aircraft patrol on it's Interstates. Yes it is very accurate. Ever notice the white hash marks on the shoulder? That's how they compute your speed. I've spoken to them a few times on the CB radio while they were monitoring traffic. I've delt w/ alot of cops in 30 years of trucking. Most are fair desent people. Few are not. Most of the citations I have received were deserved. They are underpaid and have a thankless job that I for one would not want. I would like to just say thanks to all the law enforcement people out there for doing their job.
Far too generous. As a very law obiding person (save for the occasion that I drink too much and could be considered publically intoxicated on my way from the pub to the cab) the citations that I have received were generally gutpunches designed to extract hard currency from my wallet. For instance the time I was doine 65 in a 65 on a four lane that went to 55 for no reason, and missed the sign, and was given a ticket by a cop sitting yards from the sign.

Or the time I received a ticket for going 36 in a 25 on a rural highway leaving a town that had just extended their 25 zone a mile out of town.

Fought that one, and had it reduced to a non moving faulty muffler, but it still cost me money. It still ticks me off, and I won't spend a penny in that town till the day I die.

Neither of these instances was safety related. Neither went on my record as points. Pure revenue.

Err.. this topic makes me bitter...

The only thing worse than traffic cops are ski cops.

post #52 of 129
Thread Starter 
Originally posted by slider:
They are underpaid and have a thankless job that I for one would not want.
Living in Boston I see people do stupid shit all the time in front of cops and they don't really care. You have to do something really bad or catch a cop in a really bad mood to have them write you up.

Staties are a totally different story.

I know some cops and they probably make more than me once they add all of their detail pay in.

I guess rural cops don't have as many opportunities for detail work.

I always go 35 in a 35 after I got nabbed in VT a few years ago but of course the first time in two years I miss a 50 to 35 drop I get nabbed.

post #53 of 129
About the Air police, yes they do active duty on the weekends on I89 in NH and also I93 in NH. When you get up to the straight section at about exit 9 on 89 you might as well just drop the speed down a little so you don't get the dreaded ticket
post #54 of 129

I had a similar experience coming home from work recently except I didn't get pulled over. At night I slow down and drive right at the speed limit. So I'm going down this 4 lane divided highway with a 65 mph limit. Doubt I was even going that fast. Well I see this car come flying up behind me going well over the limit. Pulls right onto my bumper and parks there. Won't go around even though I'm in the right lane and going much slower than he was previously. I get tired of the tailgating and start slowing down to encourage him to go around. I finally got down to about 35 and he's still there. So I speed back up to the speed limit. This puts a lot of space between us but only for a few minutes. Then a repeat. Flies up behind me, doesn't get in the other lane, and then parks on my tail. So, I drop back to 35 and cruise there the rest of the way to the house. Couldn't get a good look at the car when I turned but it was either a cop or an idiot.

Now a few years ago, I was going down a 2 lane highway one night and happened to see the cop parked on a side street. So when he pulled out behind me I knew who it was. When he came roaring up to me way over the speed limit I knew it was the cop. So I slipped the car into third gear and let out on the clutch right as he approached. He ended in the lane beside me in a hail of brake lights to avoid hitting me. Before he could get back behind me I hit the blinker and took the next right. Not something I would do today now that I am older. But I sure enjoyed it then. [img]graemlins/evilgrin.gif[/img]
post #55 of 129
Since we're on the subject I need some advice.

I got a ticket about 2 months ago, which I sent in to dispute in court.

I'll try to explain my situation:

I was traveling back from skiing (surprise, surprise) on a highway (speed limit 65 mph). I then turned onto a side road for about a quarter of a mile, and then onto a state route (a la Route 4 in Vermont). Just for visualization's sake. The highway and state route run parallel. I basically took the side road and then reversed my direction by taking the state route.

Having not adjusted to being off the highway and accelerating from a stop while going down a hill, I got my car back up to 60 rather quickly. By the time I realized that I was going faster than I should have; I got stopped at 58 mph in a 35.

I was no doubt in the wrong. The reason I disputed this is that there was no speed limit sign on the mile and a half stretch of the state route that I was on. Shouldn't there have been one? Would it have been my responsibility to obey the speed limit of the side road. I don't know to be honest if there was a sign on that road. What if there was a sign on the state route, but before where I turned? How would I know the limit?

When I sent in the ticket it seemed like a no-brainer; but now I'm having second thoughts. Especially since regardless of what the speed limit was, I would've been exceeding it. What sort of approach do I take? I don't really mind paying so much, I just don't want the points (I'm 24).
post #56 of 129
I believe there was something in my drivers ed manual when I took the drivers test back in 1970 about, if your not sure of what the speed limit is you should drive at 35mph.

In your case I'm sure there is a posted sign. Like you said, it must have been before where you entered the road. Good Luck :
post #57 of 129
shmerham, first of all, if you have a Maine driver's license, I'm pretty sure that they cannot put points onto your license from another state. Vermont, I believe, can put points into their own sysyem against you though. Which means that you could eventually have your driving privlege in that state suspended for a period of time. If you don't go there too often, it may not matter that much though.

You might want to call the court in Vermont. Talk to the court clerk and ask about that. On the other hand, where you may get killed is on your car insurance. Call your insurance agent and ask him if out of state speeding convictions will affect your rates.

If they do, then you might want to try and fight it. You'll have to drive back to Vermont, of course, which suc#s, but you may be able to beat it, or get it knocked down somewhat if you can prove that you didn't pass a speed limit sign. Yes, this can be a critical factor. (BTW, when I used to do radar, I never set up in a location where I couldn't testify that the driver passed a speed limit sign). You'll need photos, and of course, if it means that much to you - You'll certainly have a better chance with a lawyer.

On the other hand, since you were going 58 mph, you may have a tough time with any explanation since you obviously knew you weren't on an interstate.

Depending on the jurisdiction, you may get it at least knocked down to a lower speed by talking to the A.D.A. in the courtroom, before you officialy plead not guilty to the judge. Often, the cop is called by the court to respond there only after you show up in court. They sometimes try to avoid calling the guy in off the road by offering you a lesser plea.

You can find out some of these things by calling the local Court Clerk and asking, or possibly by getting in touch with a lawyer in Vermont. These things vary quite a bit depending on the jurisdiction. Good luck. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

Hey, what happened to all the rest of you cops that were posting? Come on now, we're all skiers! Skiers first, cops second, or maybe even third? [img]graemlins/evilgrin.gif[/img]
post #58 of 129
On fighting tickets.

Around these parts you have to go to court and plead innocent (or send in a written plea) and get a court date scheduled before you have any leverage. At that point you call the DA or whoever is in jurisdiction of the area you received the ticket.

Then basically beg and plead like a child, offer to pay huge amounts of money to have the ticket changed to a non - moving violation in exchange for not dragging everybody into court. Once agreed send written guilty plea to the DA who notifies the clerk of court to shred your MV and send you a bill for some sort of mechanical defect that doesn't actually exist on your car at all.

If that fails, pay the ticket, buy an XM Radio to keep you company, and drive like your grandmother for an eternally long hellish year of strict traffic law obeyance ... all while enjoying CNBC's fast paced squack box from the slow lane.

post #59 of 129
Thread Starter 
I know that VT does not report to Mass but NH does.

I beleive NH reports to ME but VT may not.

Like I said, when I got the ticket in Woodstock I said screw it and paid it because the only thing it would increase is my chances of getting another ticket in VT.

It wasn't worth it to waste $40 in gas and waste my time driving up there to have to pay the fine anyway.

So does a road have to be an interstate to have a high speed limit?

There seem to be a shitload of 50mph roads in NH and VT that are small 2 lane roads.
post #60 of 129
The road was in NH actually (I was just using Rt 4 as a good comparison), not too far from my place in Maine.

I'm not really as worried about the points as I am about the insurance.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: General Skiing Discussion
EpicSki › The Barking Bear Forums › On the Snow (Skiing Forums) › General Skiing Discussion › Speeding Tickets and Radar Detectors