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post #31 of 55
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Originally Posted by carvemeister View Post
I also did a double binding whammy. So I still need to buy more skis!
STOP giving me ideas!!!!!!!!!

Funny thing - the UPS driver just arrived - working overtime I guess... these skis look pretty nice...
post #32 of 55
MATT, MrK.., AZ... Anyone who purchased these - Im curious if your 412's have a 76 brake width - they appear as if they will rub a bit with the 84mm waist? Havent actually installed the bindings yet - skis were just delivered a few minutes ago.
post #33 of 55
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Originally Posted by carvemeister View Post

[/b]Man, I feel cheap. Like a dirty cheap whore. Yet it feels sooo right.
It is ok to cheapen yourself if the new boards make the wife happy.

Maybe she will leave you a ten-spot on the dresser in the morning!
post #34 of 55
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Originally Posted by Kuma View Post
MATT, MrK.., AZ... Anyone who purchased these - Im curious if your 412's have a 76 brake width - they appear as if they will rub a bit with the 84mm waist? Havent actually installed the bindings yet - skis were just delivered a few minutes ago.
Yep, Mine came with the 76 brakes, not the 88 as stated. I called this evening and gave them hell. Of course it did no good because the lady I was speaking with did not realize I was talking about skis until ten minutes into our conversation. She is having a "product specialist" call me in the morning. Supposedly they will get the right brakes sent out.
post #35 of 55
Just called STP myself - I was told that they most likely will provide a refund and have us send the skis back... I asked for a product specialist and was told that she will speak with one as specialists do not speak directly with customers - then she, not the specialist, will call me back with the decision. If you actually talk with someone other than an operator - give em heck for me too!!!
post #36 of 55
Thread Starter 
If you're not into bending metal both Al's ski barn, and Snowdealsnow on ebay, have the 99mm brakes for $ 40.
post #37 of 55
I can bend the brakes no problem. However, I believe they should replace with the correct size. Kuma, I will keep you up to date on my progress.
post #38 of 55
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Originally Posted by matt7180 View Post
I can bend the brakes no problem. However, I believe they should replace with the correct size. Kuma, I will keep you up to date on my progress.
I'd generally agree, I have found the folks at STP to be extremely customer service oriented, even if they are not the most technically aware bunch. Good luck!
post #39 of 55

online deal

I just ordered a pair of Atomic SX: B5 w/Neox 412 Alu from Skiers Outlet.com for $299 with free shipping. They have similar closeout deals on Isor and others.

Has anyone ever ordered from this company? It seems like a very good deal.
post #40 of 55
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Originally Posted by matt7180 View Post
I can bend the brakes no problem. However, I believe they should replace with the correct size. Kuma, I will keep you up to date on my progress.
Thanks! Agreed - much rather bend than return Also, hard to believe they included the newer/lighter 412's!
post #41 of 55
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Originally Posted by Kuma View Post
Thanks! Agreed - much rather bend than return Also, hard to believe they included the newer/lighter 412's!
I was suprised as well. Last night I bent the brakes just in case, and put them on the skis. Very light set-up. These in a 175 are much lighter than my sx:10s in a 170.
post #42 of 55
Thanks Matt! A couple questions regarding mounting:

- Did you use a inch torque wrench at 39/40 inch pounds
- Do you silicone or ? the holes prior to mounting the screws

Any tips appreciated. Im very mechanical - just never mounted bindings or have owned Atomics before - and like they say - the devils in the details.

Also, I was surprised at how stiff they are. The shovels are the same, perhaps slightly softer than 8800's, but under the boot and tail, overall flex is stiffer... they should just bomb through crud and cut up pow!!
post #43 of 55
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Originally Posted by Kuma View Post
Thanks Matt! A couple questions regarding mounting:

- Did you use a inch torque wrench at 39/40 inch pounds
- Do you silicone or ? the holes prior to mounting the screws

Any tips appreciated. Im very mechanical - just never mounted bindings or have owned Atomics before - and like they say - the devils in the details.

Also, I was surprised at how stiff they are. The shovels are the same, perhaps slightly softer than 8800's, but under the boot and tail, overall flex is stiffer... they should just bomb through crud and cut up pow!!
I did use a torque wrench at the appropriate Newton Meter setting. Not sure what the conversion is for inch pounds. I did not silicone the holes. There was a discussion a year or so back about neox and Atomicman advised that they did not need silicone.
post #44 of 55
My Neox 412's arrived 2 days ago, but the skis just got here today. DHL sux man. Those guys swore the skis were never given to them by STP, no scan, no tracking, etc. STP put a tracer on them and was prepared to re-deliver another pair...and lo and behold, the DHL man brought the skis this afternoon.

Like others have said, I got the Neox 412's with the damn 76 mm brakes. Are you guys really ok with just bending the brakes to make 'em work with the 84 mm waist? I'd like to get STP to send me the right brakes (88 mm), but I can't afford to wait to ship these bindings back and wait for new ones. I gotta get these babies mounted and head for the mountains!
post #45 of 55
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Originally Posted by AZskidogg View Post
My Neox 412's arrived 2 days ago, but the skis just got here today. DHL sux man. Those guys swore the skis were never given to them by STP, no scan, no tracking, etc. STP put a tracer on them and was prepared to re-deliver another pair...and lo and behold, the DHL man brought the skis this afternoon.

Like others have said, I got the Neox 412's with the damn 76 mm brakes. Are you guys really ok with just bending the brakes to make 'em work with the 84 mm waist? I'd like to get STP to send me the right brakes (88 mm), but I can't afford to wait to ship these bindings back and wait for new ones. I gotta get these babies mounted and head for the mountains!
You are right, of all the stuff I order and have shipped, DHL has the most problems with delivery.

As for the brakes, I am not sure if it is kosher or not, but the brakes bend very easily, and do not take much of an adjustment to get to fit the 84mm waist.

I have not received the call, but others have said STP is out of the wide brakes and offering a refund. They must be crazy. For the deal I received,(new EX's with the light Neox bindings for $248) there is no way in HE** I am sending them back due to this small of an issue. I am bending the brakes for now, and will look to buy wide ones. Even if it costs $40 it is still worth it.
post #46 of 55
definetly give skiers outlet a try (atomic ski outlet) there very knowlegable and will do right by you I've ordered skis for myself and several of my friends and all have been satisfied,they have excellent prices on closeouts from prior years . If you give them a call talk to Nathen and tell him Rich the Powderkid sent you. He started it by himself last year and now has needed more help to keep up with the demand.
post #47 of 55
Thanks for the tip powderkid
post #48 of 55
STP left me a message yesterday regarding the brake width. They said that the vendor does not have the correct size in stock and that the skis should be returned for a full refund. Personally, the inconvenience of bending the brakes is not a big deal considering the price and the newer 412's which were included. Cant wait to try em!
post #49 of 55
So, a buddy and I both ordered the 175cm. So far all we have received is the bindings. They are the 76mm brake in the green/sliver color combo. Skis haven't arrived yet and STP doesn't know where they are. Sigh...
post #50 of 55
No surprise there. Seems like STP knows they have problems with DHL -- I wonder why they don't switch to another shipper. The STP guy I talked to was very skeptical about DHL's claim that they never picked up the skis. After lots of back & forth between the two, and DHL *swearing* there is no way they could've received the skis because after so many days they should've been scanned and in the system, all of a sudden the skis just showed up at my door. Tracking number and all that was totally useless. DHL somehow just "found" them and got them delivered.

Don't panic until the first business day after New Year's.
post #51 of 55
It is interesting how the tracking system with DHL rarely works. UPS is always spot on accurate.
post #52 of 55
I wanted to give an update for those who also purchased this deal from Sierra Trading Post.

After being told on three seperate occasions that someone, or a "product specialist" would contact me in regards to the mix up, I have yet to hear from anyone. Even though this was a great deal, I will NEVER purchase anything from STP again.

First they screwed up on the shipping. Ok, they did not personally screw up the shipping, it was DHL who was in error. However, I blame STP for using that cut-rate outfit in the first place.

Second, the item stated that Neox 412's with 88mm brakes were included. They sent Neox 412's with 76mm brakes. This was not all bad however, as they were the newer, lighter neox's, but a mistaek none the less.

Third, they REFUSED to contact or speak to me with regard to the mix-up. I am ok with things getting messed up and not going according to plan. However, when this happens, the great companies quickly acknowledge the mistake and try to rectify the situation.

In the end, I bent the brakes with no issues and they fit fine. Also, think I received a hell of a deal for that ski/binding set up. But the experience has soured me on STP that I have sent out an e-mail to everyone I know explaining the situation and warning them of shopping with STP. I never do things like this, and it is a little Nader-esque, but I feel it is worth it in this instance.

As for now... I will be spending next week in Winter Park. Bring on the powder and crud!
post #53 of 55
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Originally Posted by matt7180 View Post
In the end, I bent the brakes with no issues and they fit fine.
How did you bend the brakes?

The two pairs of M:EX we ordered finally showed up today (that was the longest 2 day shipping I've ever had).

BTW, not only did we get 76mm brakes but we received the green color bindings that are for the SX series. Oh well, can't complain about the price but I would have liked to know that they were mismatched bindings when I placed the order.
post #54 of 55
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Originally Posted by Max_501 View Post
How did you bend the brakes?
I used a flameless torch, and just bent them out a little on each side, then put the brakes back in the heel piece. They are soft enough metal, you can probably take the brakes of and bend them by hand.
post #55 of 55
Bent them by hand - pretty easy - just grab both brake arms at the same time, pull outward with equal pressure being careful not to strain the plastic brake retainer piece... straight forward, didnt require much adjustment, ~1/8'".
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