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post #1 of 14
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http://www.skiracing.com/index.php?o...page&Itemid=44

Julia Mancuso wins her first-ever WC race and Lindsey Kildow was third.

The US Ski Team is smokin'.

This is so :
post #2 of 14
:d :d

:d :d :d :d
post #3 of 14
Wow. In terms of depth of results, this is (or is close to) the best five days in a row ever for the US Ski Team on the WC, with three wins (Miller, Nyman & Mancuso), two second place finishes (Miller, Ligety), a third (Kildow), and a fourth (Sullivan), from six (!) different athletes, in four different disciplines.

A year ago there was a terrific weekend for the US where Miller and Rahlves excelled at Beaver Creek (IIRC) and the US women did great at Lake Louise, over the same few days. But other than that, this is the best stretch for US results I can remember.

Kirsten Clark was also in the points (22nd) and Stacey Cook barely missed, only 2/100ths out of 28th place.

Interestingly enough, re our discussion of future possible changing of the guard, there were ten (!) Swiss women in the top 30.
post #4 of 14
Great track. Aggressive speed all the way for the ladies - Mancuso nailed the entire run. She was 1.4+ up at the finish wearing 21 - she was psyched. Catch it on sport1.at.

Here's a shot of her last week. Lovely. This is the position to teach.

post #5 of 14


Gotta love the Lange World Cups. I'd always thought that the Lange's were too stiff & twitchy for the speed events? What's the latest feedback on the new world cup model?
post #6 of 14
Kildow first, Mancuso second today. Another win for Bode. Best six days in a row for US skiing, sfdean?
post #7 of 14
In the Super G I just thought it was interesting in that the first seven places, six different ski brands were represented. Only Head appeared more than once. However, Lange boots had 4 of the 7.

Equipment
Men's super G, Hinterstoder, Austria, Dec. 20, 2006
Skier, skis/boots/bindings
1 Miller, Head/Head/Tyrolia
2 Fill, Dynastar/Lange/Look
3 Maier, Atomic/Atomic/Atomic
4 Zurbriggen, Fischer/Lange/Tyrolia
5 Strobl, Salomon/Salomon/Salomon
6 Buechel, Head/Lange/Tyrolia
7 Streitberger, Rossignol/Lange/Rossignol
post #8 of 14
Must not be the skis. Or the boots. Does Lange make the boots for one of the other brands? I only see 3 Langes in that list.
post #9 of 14
Lange makes the Rossi race boot (they're actually identical except for the colour).
It used to be you'd see a more Langes out there, but in the past few years manufacturers (esp. Atomic) have been coming out with better plugs, and are making their high profile athletes wear their boots - Maier always wore Langes up until 2(?) years ago, when he switched to Atomic. As I recall, he had some trouble getting used to the boots and did rather poorly at the start of the season.
post #10 of 14
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Originally Posted by telerod15 View Post
Kildow first, Mancuso second today. Another win for Bode. Best six days in a row for US skiing, sfdean?
I think its definitely the best six days in a row for recent US WC skiing. And that six days is probably close to the best month ever for the US on the World Cup. And the US has never had the kind of depth we have today.

Picabo Street and another US woman were both strong in speed events over a similar period a few years back, and the Mahre brothers were both dominant at the same time, and the last couple of years the US had a one-two combination with Miller and Rahlves on the men's side. But I don't think the US ever had two women and four men in the top 4 in the same month.
post #11 of 14
Telerod,

You said,
Quote:
I only see 3 Langes in that list.
Here is the list again

Equipment
Men's super G, Hinterstoder, Austria, Dec. 20, 2006
Skier, skis/boots/bindings
1 Miller, Head/Head/Tyrolia
2 Fill, Dynastar/Lange/Look
3 Maier, Atomic/Atomic/Atomic
4 Zurbriggen, Fischer/Lange/Tyrolia
5 Strobl, Salomon/Salomon/Salomon
6 Buechel, Head/Lange/Tyrolia
7 Streitberger, Rossignol/Lange/Rossignol


You know, curiously enough there were 10 different skiers out of the top 10 finishes! So I agree, it must not be the skis!
post #12 of 14
Lange & Dynastar were owned by Ski Rossignol but run as separate operations. Quiksilver bought it all out in 2005...Rossi, Look, Lange, Dynastar are all brand names of Quiksilver now.
http://www.quiksilverinc.com/Press%2...06%20_3_.pd f
post #13 of 14
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Originally Posted by SnoWonder View Post
Telerod,

You said,

Here is the list again

Equipment
Men's super G, Hinterstoder, Austria, Dec. 20, 2006
Skier, skis/boots/bindings
1 Miller, Head/Head/Tyrolia
2 Fill, Dynastar/Lange/Look
3 Maier, Atomic/Atomic/Atomic
4 Zurbriggen, Fischer/Lange/Tyrolia
5 Strobl, Salomon/Salomon/Salomon
6 Buechel, Head/Lange/Tyrolia
7 Streitberger, Rossignol/Lange/Rossignol


You know, curiously enough there were 10 different skiers out of the top 10 finishes! So I agree, it must not be the skis!
And yet, a year ago, two years ago, when all the top finishers were on Atomics, there was a very real sense that Atomic made the fastest skis.

I have a theory...

It seems that ski racing, like the very top levels of any athletic sport, requires incredible talent and ability. It also absolutely requires confidence.

When a majority of the races are being won by skiers on a particular brand of ski, doesn't just the tiniest hint of doubt drift into the minds of the skiers on OTHER brands? That little "Gee, I wonder if Xxxxx skis really ARE a little bit faster?" Does that then change the dynamic?

So this year, along comes Cuche, Bode, etc., winning on skis that nobody really even took seriously a year ago. Now, the other racers can't say to themselves "if I only had Xxxxx skis, I could be faster." Suddenly, EVERYBODY is winning on different skis. Maybe that opens a little door inside the heads (no pun intended, honest) of a lot of competitors who just decide to ski and forget about some perceived superiority of another brand.

Just wondering.
post #14 of 14
Bob,

I find your theory interesting. I suggest you go to the Head of the Class. It is not exactly Atomic theory, but you have shown you have the wisdom of King Salomon.
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