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post #31 of 64
"-the anonymity of the internet emboldens the meek.
-the last thing most really good skiers do is spray about how rad they are (especially on internet message boards)."


JER speaks the truth!

1. Totally, totally, totally. It's much easier to tell somebody to piss off if they don't know who you are or where you live.

2. Real bad boys move in silence.
That's a slogan lifted from the world of rap wherein it's general knowledge that the really bada$$ street hustlers and thugs probably aren't discussing their business on rap records.
post #32 of 64
I love Highway Star (and, no, not in the same way that he loves Phil's son). All of his posts always make me laugh. I also really enjoy seeing how easily he is able to ruffle some folks' feathers. I would definitely ski with him. Hopefully, he'll make an appearance at the Bumpfest this year.


PS I guarantee this thread will have 1000 views by the end of the day. He must be doing something right.
post #33 of 64
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I'm not saying all telemarkers shouldn't post here, but some of you people are very rotational, and I do have a problem with that.
Em stinkin gorp eating funny dressers with the funny bindings.
post #34 of 64
Trust me there is nothing anonymous about the Epicski forums. Its like standing in the lodge. What you say and do here WILL be verified.
post #35 of 64
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=As long he can ski the way he does in a fashion that is safe for others I hope he continues to enjoy his skiing the way he appears to.
I don't care what he does on an empty trail, but his "buzzing" of skiers on Saturday was far from safe.
post #36 of 64
whew!

good thing I have never claimed to be anything other than a glorified hacker on the slopes.

that way if I'm in actuality as good as Highway Star i'll be just as impressed as any of the the other Epic Heads whom I run into on the trails (run into being the operative collection of words).
post #37 of 64

Priceless

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Originally Posted by moguljunkie View Post
I love Highway Star (and, no, not in the same way that he loves Phil's son). ...
LMAO! Now, now, HS did attempt a backfill on his post about the hotness of Phil's son.

You have to admit that the material that HS generates/invites is hilarious. He doesn't care if people laugh at him or with him, which you have to respect.
post #38 of 64
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whew!...good thing I have never claimed to be anything other than a glorified hacker on the slopes.
What?!...dookey, get your own skill level description and don't claim to be as bad as me...gaper!
post #39 of 64
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Originally Posted by epic View Post
I don't care what he does on an empty trail, but his "buzzing" of skiers on Saturday was far from safe.
did you see that happen?

I don't appreciate the argument "I'm in control and I know where they are going. I'm sick."

An equally obsurd argument would be not wearing your seatbelt because you are watching all the other traffic. Then weaving around traffic on the freeway at two or three times the flowing speed.

anyway, yada yada, just wondering if you actually saw HS skiing like that. If so, it speaks volumes about his personality. Much more so than his vibrant internet persona, which I find humorous via self-deprivation.

If he is an inconsiderate macher, I won't feel so bad about missing the clinic.
post #40 of 64
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did you see that happen?
Yes.
post #41 of 64
The big question regarding this individual, and I am a firm believer that the devil is in the details ......

Why did he ....

Name himself after .. The Journal of the Canadian Trucking Industry .. ??

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post #42 of 64
oh, one of them, eh? okay, well... not into skiing with guys like that. I'm double-out of the clinic.

still wanna see the video though... I love slap-stick comedy as well as self-deprivation comparative to the likes of louie anderson. I mean, making fun of yourself takes courage and more self-esteem than HS has recently been accredited.

I do understand now, HS, that most (if not all) of your tone is lost through the textual language you express. Some people get offended because they perhaps don't understand that jokes require tone-of-voice. It's not what you say but how you say it right? well... we don't have the HOW online.
But... maching groomers filled with people is just plain ____________.
post #43 of 64
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Originally Posted by Pierre View Post
Trust me there is nothing anonymous about the Epicski forums. Its like standing in the lodge. What you say and do here WILL be verified.

Really? I'm naked under the chicken suit. Verify that.
post #44 of 64
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Originally Posted by CTKook View Post
People were dogging Miller as recently as a couple weeks ago, saying he wasnt a technically good skier but got by on guts and athleticism...just before he won at Beaver Creek actually. LMAO. I would love to post video of, say, Raich training on the flats without showing who he is and get people's reaction, which inevitably would be primarily critical, but am too lazy.
How true. I agree that a lot of Monday-morning quarterbacks were writing Bode off earlier this season.

Some unidentified footage of Raich might be interesting, but for a different reason than the one you're kind of implying. When Raich is training, the whole purpose of video footage is to help him identify and isolate things that he's doing right and things that he could improve. I honestly think that some of the very talented coaches we have doing MA here on Epic could pick much of that out correctly and MIGHT even make suggestions that would be very similar to what Raich's actual coaches would recommend.

Where the difference comes in is that HS posted his video and asked for MA, but then proceeded to discount almost everything he was told. Granted, a lot of it eventually just became general criticism but I don't think he took the results of the MA in the spirit that most people would request it.

Still, I give him great props for his enthusiasm for the sport and for his willingnesss to brave the gauntlet. I do think he would be fun to ski with (but I'd want to make sure I was behind him ).

He's contributed to some of the most entertaining threads we've had here in some time.
post #45 of 64
Who is this guy, Highway Star, everybody keep talking about ?
post #46 of 64
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Originally Posted by epic
I don't care what he does on an empty trail, but his "buzzing" of skiers on Saturday was far from safe.
Hmm. I guess the online persona isn't just an act after all. Count me in the anti-Highway Star camp now, too.
post #47 of 64
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How true. I agree that a lot of Monday-morning quarterbacks were writing Bode off earlier this season.

Some unidentified footage of Raich might be interesting, but for a different reason than the one you're kind of implying...

Where the difference comes in is that HS posted his video and asked for MA, but then proceeded to discount almost everything he was told. Granted, a lot of it eventually just became general criticism but I don't think he took the results of the MA in the spirit that most people would request it.

He's contributed to some of the most entertaining threads we've had here in some time.
Re: Raich, I said "primarily" critical -- the signal/noise ratio is the thing, as often on the internet; and a lot of people in looking at Miller's skiing, say, or in the EC threads recently, or the PSIA thread, seem to be primarily blowing off steam by saying that the skiing being looked at is poor. I definitely agree that there are also people on here with very good eyes.

HS's rebuffing the criticism of his skiing -- also something done by a lot of posters -- may have given rise to a new phrase: Highway Starring. For someone with his skillset who's sincerely asking for advice, he even poses an interesting dilemma as to how much one would want to change. There are definitely lots of different levels of value in his threads.
post #48 of 64
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There are definitely lots of different levels of value in his threads.
Yup. No matter how they turn out, they all seem to make the day go faster....
post #49 of 64
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Originally Posted by CTKook
I'm not saying all telemarkers shouldn't post here, but some of you people are very rotational, and I do have a problem with that.


Do you mean using upper body rotation? The telemarkers that post here don't do that and neither do the snowboarders.

Anyway, why do you have a problem with people doing that? Some very good skiers seem to do it, they aren't hurting anyone. Telemark is about diversity, a whole spectrum of styles and gear.

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Teliers?? pfffft.... :
Hey Telerod - I hope you knew I was kidding about the "Teliers?? pfffft..." comment. I tele too, just more alpine.
post #50 of 64
Sure, I quoted that because I liked it.
post #51 of 64
Phew, cool! I don't want to offend anyone by mistake. I only like to offend people when I mean it....
post #52 of 64
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Originally Posted by CTKook View Post
...the signal/noise ratio is the thing, as often on the internet...

HS's rebuffing the criticism of his skiing -- also something done by a lot of posters -- may have given rise to a new phrase: Highway Starring. For someone with his skillset who's sincerely asking for advice, he even poses an interesting dilemma as to how much one would want to change. There are definitely lots of different levels of value in his threads.
A historical note here:
Some of you may be familiar with a newsgroup called rec.skiing.alpine. It's been years since I looked at it, but it might still be around. My experience dates back to the days when I used a terminal emulator to read the newsgroups on a Unix server.

At any rate, r.s.a. had a rather frequent and flamboyant contributor whose screen name, IIRC, involved the word "buddha," but I can't remember the whole name. He was built a bit like his namesake, apparently, and was not a particularly good skier, which he freely admitted. His newsgroup personality was aggressive, often irrational, and disrespectful of just about everyone, rather like certain colorful sports commentators.

Through his often outrageous postings to r.s.a, he managed to attain enough temporary notoriety so that he actually had equipment sponsors and frequently talked his way into comp lift tickets at various ski areas. He wanted attention and free equipment, and he got it.

Since r.s.a. was unmoderated at the time, nobody prevented him from posting whatever he felt like. His postings, together with the often shocked and outraged responses from people he had insulted, ultimately generated a very high noise level in r.s.a., and I, along with many others, lost interest.

If Highway Star is attempting to emulate this individual, he has two strikes against him: 1. He hasn't yet posted anything anywhere near as obnoxious as the postings of the r.s.a. "buddha", and 2. If he tries, the moderators will close him down. Asking for MA and then informing each respondant that they don't know what they're talking about is a good effort and has certainly raised HS's profile on this site, but I don't think it's enough get very much swag.

Oh, well. In limited doses, it's moderately entertaining.
post #53 of 64
Ya suppose he's angling for a sponsorship from Levi's?

I don't know about comp tickets, but a few of us "bears" have suggested we all chip in to fly him out west to give one of his "clinics" :
post #54 of 64
I'm having trouble believing (perhaps hs is too) that anyone would really plunk down any cash for that. the footage maybe, but not the experience.
post #55 of 64
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Originally Posted by telerod15 View Post
Ya suppose he's angling for a sponsorship from Levi's?

I don't know about comp tickets, but a few of us "bears" have suggested we all chip in to fly him out west to give one of his "clinics" :
He's definitely been offered some swag as a result of his presence here. Local escorts around Snowbird/Alta/ LCC & BCC, or Squaw or Kirkwood, of itself has a pretty big functional pricetag though to be clear no one suggested anything other than social skiing in terms of what this would be. The fascinating thing, well one of many, is he does not take people up on this.

R.S.A: I first really learned that discussion groups existed on the net from the old wreck.climbing. There were some fairly brusque characters on their who on their own telling had sort of quit r.s.a through a combo of disgust and fear. I actually grazed though it once or twice to see what it was like; I think I know part of what it may be like to be in Mel Gibson's thought-world as a result.
post #56 of 64

Hs

How about everyone on Epic chip in a nickel and HS can have his clinic on the Matterhorn at Disneyland. then just think we'll all be close to the other egomaniacs in Hollywood. How appropriate.
post #57 of 64
skiing in a crowd
gondola behavior
poaching grabass on Snow White
cutting lines
snorting lines
antisocial behavior in crowds
egocentric mannerisms
wearing designer jeans
drinking in the parking lot
ripping farts in tight areas
loading rocks in the half pipe
making an ass of himself in a large crowd.

Awwwww. So much for him to teach us in so little time
post #58 of 64
Each of God's children has his or her place under the sun.

Sincerely,

Yuki

post #59 of 64
Come ski with us at Schweitzer we'll help you learn;

skiing with others with nothing to prove
skiing for fun and not egocentric behavior
skiing sober
social behavior that makes friends
finding ways to make others feel good about their skiing
finding ways to feel good about how you present yourself
demonstrating humility
ripping a nice run for just for the fun of it
leaving the camera induced demonstrations of poor skiing for another time
being a nice guy.


I think we might be able to teach you some really useful social skills.
I hope you can make it. We would welcome you
post #60 of 64
I wouldn't spit in a bucket to bring him out West, but I'd contribute a little money if it would move him about 800 miles further East permanently.
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