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Warren Miller's Cold Fusion

post #1 of 15
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Since I bailed on Tahoe over the weekend I found myself plunked down in front of the telly.

On Saturday Warren Miller's Cold Fusion was bouncing around on basic cable, so I watched it (had to get my snow jones taken care of one way or another).

Not terribly sure when it came out, but it definitely had that "Old School" Warren Miller flavor, at least for the first hour. About 90% of the film was narrated by Warren and there were several of his classic segments (shots of multiple skiers ripping up the same run in sychronized smoothness).

The only time the film "fell apart" was when they shifted the focus from skiing to BASE jumping, mostly because it wasn't ski-oriented BASE jumping.

Also the final 1/3 of the film didn't have Warren narrating, so it lost of its nostalgic vibe.

Still, the sequences on Africa and the smaller U.S. resorts were sweet.
post #2 of 15
2001 - good flic!
post #3 of 15
I like the segment on Iran. Think it was pre 9/11?
post #4 of 15
Probably. But Warren doesn't really seem to get into the political world - he's got a cool ski hippie vibe that seems to rise above it all. I wish we were all able to learn from that and just treat everyone as human beings and get past all the religous BS...
post #5 of 15
I know warren miller is a pionner etc. But in all honesty...I find his movies lame, long and boring. I enjoy The TGR flicks, alot more...

Soul Purpose is one of my favorites..
post #6 of 15
I like TGR, MSP, Chainsaw, PBP, Team 13, Level One, Steve Winter, and Stump flics too. But we're not talking about those.

Okay... Now, getting back to WM movies...:
post #7 of 15
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I wish we were all able to learn from that and just treat everyone as human beings and get past all the religous BS...
INFIDEL!!! : : :
post #8 of 15
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Originally Posted by Xtremity View Post
I know warren miller is a pionner etc. But in all honesty...I find his movies lame, long and boring. I enjoy The TGR flicks, alot more...

Soul Purpose is one of my favorites..
That's because you are the EXTREME!!!:
post #9 of 15
"If I have seen further, it is only because I stand on the shoulders of giants."
-Sir Isaac Newton

I would say Warren Miller is a genius. But that's just me.
post #10 of 15
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INFIDEL!!! : : :
Even worse... LUTHERAN!! And a Norwegian Lutheran at that!! : :
post #11 of 15
Mmmm... Ski porn! The closest thing I'm going to get in terms of decent skiing out east.
post #12 of 15
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I dunno. I watched a couple of the recent TGR flicks and they own a lot to the vintage (70s and 80s, particularly) Warren Miller films.

Miller sort of set the standard for the basic linear nature of the films and setting up going from place to place in USA/Canada, then Europe, then some bugged out spot like Iran or Africa.

That said, I would like to know how they got into Iran. Even in 2001 that was not a place that was easy for Western infidels to get into. As a matter of fact, that would be a great bit for any of these films, since skiing in India and Iran, etc. is the hot ethnic snow du jour (every film from the past several years has had a segment on India or one of the "Stans" (Kazik or otherwise), yet they never show how they got the visas/permission to film there.
post #13 of 15
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I like TGR, MSP, Chainsaw, PBP, Team 13, Level One, Steve Winter, and Stump flics too. But we're not talking about those.

Okay... Now, getting back to WM movies...:

warren miller shouldn't even be compared to new-school production companies. The ones listed above provide us with tremendously tallented athletes, showing skiing at it's pinnacle. Usually making me drool.

But, warren miller films capture the asthetic of skiing much more than any other. And that's why they stand the test of time.

bro-braism is trendy, trends die and get old. What is cool this year is not so cool next year. Miller's no-need-to-be-cool attitude in his ski films are what make them so cool, imo.

I like charging sick lines too, and dream of them when watching any modern ski-flick. However, I still love hanging out at resorts on sunny saturdays and riding highspeed quads while arcing groomers, watching four year olds learn the thrill of going straight. Why? it's asthetically pleasing to my senses and that will never change.
post #14 of 15
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the bits that were cool in Cold Fusion was when they showed Glen Plake riding his long boards then they showed this old footage from Boyne Mountain with that famous European skier (forget his name, though it's a travesty that I am, since he was mucho famousio) doing the same thing. Made me long for a pair of long boards and some long board lessons, especially when they did the whole tip skating dealy at full speed down the slope.

but I think Samurai stumbled upon something. There's a certain character to the earlier WM films, a certain warmth (although in Cold Fusion that warmth disipated during the BASE jumping sequences and never came back during the final 1/3 of the film). Some of the newer films feel like the riders are showboating and the film is their demo reel to get them sponsored, as opposed to the older films where it just captures the joy of skiing and makes even the most inaccessible of adventures seem within an ordinary skier's grasp. There's also a much more laid back and everyman vibe, whereas some of the newer films have an air of "look what we can do cuz we're sponsored and have total access and you don't."

That said, all ski films suffer a shift at some point. I've been watching a lot of the old Greg Stump movies and there's tremendous shifts in style, vibe, and attitude even between Blizzard of Aaaaahs and P-Tex, Lies and Videotape. The former has a classic WM style, the latter a more New School, skiers of priviledge goofing off vibe. And they were made within a few years of one another by the same filmmaking team!
post #15 of 15
I like Cold Fusion, good soundtrack. I bought many of the songs on iTunes and made a good ski mix.
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