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post #31 of 41
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Can someone lend me that arguing on the internet graphic now...


Was this the one?
post #32 of 41
I gotta love my Dobie 110s I've been in for a couple years-- shell, liner and four buckles. Black shell with silver/red buckles. White "N" printed on the side. That's it. As simple mechanically and graphically as a boot could be.
post #33 of 41
I know we're talking about boots, not skis, but I thought I'd chime in. I bought a pair of Nordica Hot Rod Nitrous skis in late '05. After skiing on them only one day they started completely delaminating. I called Nordica and they had me send them back for what was supposed to be a replacement. After 2 weeks, I called for the status. They informed me they ran out of the 163 Nitrous for that season, and were trying to "repair" my skis. I told them thanks but no thanks because I didn't trust that it wouldn't happen again to the same pair. They gave me my money back (which was good)

On the other hand, my Beast 12W boots have been nothing but perfect!
post #34 of 41
Deemo, you never answered my questions about the boot's fit and performance. Are you happy with how they are performing on the mountain? If you have had any kind of significant boot work done and the fit is right for you now, continuously trading out shells can be risky business - especially if you are switching them out based on what is on the outside, versus what is on the inside.

FWIW, I agree about consumer level Nordica boots having overly plush liners. However, the consumer and shop need to be intelligent enough to purchase and sell a boot that will fit AFTER it has packed out. At that point you will likely have a liner that has molded nicely to the shape of your foot and leg. If I were recommending Nordica boots to someone I would suggest they try the Dobie line (100, 130, or 150) or the Hot Rod boot. IMO, the Hot Rod and Dobie 130 are some of the best designed boots out there and can fit nearly any skier if you are willing to put the time into fitting them and adjusting the flex on them to suit your needs.

Later

GREG
post #35 of 41
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Originally Posted by HeluvaSkier View Post
Deemo, you never answered my questions about the boot's fit and performance. Are you happy with how they are performing on the mountain? If you have had any kind of significant boot work done and the fit is right for you now, continuously trading out shells can be risky business
GREG
Greg,
Sorry about not answering the question.
Yes, I am happy with the fit so far.
I have a narrow foot and that is why we went to the Speedmachine 14's.
I tried the 12's and they were definitely more cushioned and you could tell after they pack down big time that they would end up being too sloppy.
I have a heat molded insole which helps - the only thing I may try to correct is a very minor heel lift.
The stiffness of the boot seems to compliment the Metron B5's quite well.
Why is switching out the shells risky?
Thanks
post #36 of 41
my 10's have gone three seasons and still solid all the way around...no problems, no issues
post #37 of 41
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Originally Posted by Deemo View Post
Why is switching out the shells risky?
Thanks
Switching shells is only risky if you have had grinding and punching or other modification done to the inside of the shell in order to make it fit your foot. I for example, have been in my Dobermanns for several years now, and do not plan on changing any time soon. I have had enough boot work done to them to make them fit. The setup would take a lot of time and work to reproduce to where they are now.

For you, if you have not had any internal shell work done, it will not matter how often you change shells, but if you had significant boot work done you may find yourself reluctant to jump into another shell because of how much time had gone into making that boot fit.

Later

GREG
post #38 of 41
I have 06 Speedmachine 14's and i love them I only have a few days on them and 2 days of hiking, 2000 verticle' each. I dont really notice anything wrong with them now. If the emblem comes off, o well, if i feel it necessary ill toss on another sticker that will come off too. Just because the logo didnt hold up doesnt mean the boot wont. My 05 mantras look like crap just because of the topsheet. But they still preform really well. Dont judge a book by its cover is what i guess im getting at
post #39 of 41
haha, i just looked at my boots thismorning. The silver nordica graphic on the outside of the boot is totally gone. Probly from all the hiking in early season crud
post #40 of 41
I don't think $800 boots should be falling apart in the first year let alone first day. If you have another structural issue I'd ask the shop to send them back to Nordica and find you something else to replace them.
I agree with Greg on this one that simpler is better when it comes to ski boots. I bought a pair of Nordica Grand Prix in 1975 and skied over 300 days on them till 1992 when they broke in half because the plastic had become brittle. Never changed even a buckle in 17 years. By then Nordica had re-released the Grand Prix, so I bought another pair. 14 years later I am still skiing on them and again have not even changed a buckle.
So does Nordica make good ski boots? Well, they used to!
post #41 of 41
After the Grand Prix was discontinued a few years ago the Dobermann WC line and Dobermann Pro [and Hot Rod] line was released. IMO, Nordica has really hit a home run with those shells much like the Grand Prix line of old (94mm last and a 99mm last). I have been in my Dobie WCs for 4 seasons now and the only dammage was a bent buckle which was the aftermath of a slalom gate. One could argue that the Dobermann shells have a different target market than the SpeedMachine and other 'comfy' Nordica lines...
Later
GREG
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