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post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 
I will be going to montana to go sking leaving on Jan 1st and skiing the 2,3,4. I was wondering if anyone in the red lodge, big sky or bridger bowl area had any suggestions on which would be the best in terms of snow conditions and having the most runs open. Any advice would be appreciated
post #2 of 26
> bridger bowl
Not open yet ;-(
Keep an eye on http://www.bridgerbowl.com/snowreport/
post #3 of 26
An honest assessment from the Really Big Sky.

We are in a world of hurt. Big Sky, Red Lodge and Bridger are very thin.... !

Can you re-schedule or cancel and go elsewhere?

It is still about 2 weeks until your trip, it could get better. The long term and short term forecasts do not support that hope. Sorry, dem are the facts from MT.
post #4 of 26
Wow. We are having a bad time of it in New Mexico, too. Keeping fingers crossed . . . My TSV season pass is still a virgin, and with family and company coming in for the Holidays, well, keeping fingers crossed.
post #5 of 26
!. If you are locked into Montana and are a cruiser , hit Big Sky. I haven't checked their snow report, but their blue and green runs are likely covered. It is the steep areas that need snow to cover the rocks. Those runs might not be open. I like Big Sky much more than Bridger or Red Lodge. Costs more tho.

If you are not locked into Montana, go to Utah. Check these forms about where to stay and the mountains to ski. I would do my best to change plans.

Posted by a fellow minnesotaman
post #6 of 26
Is Targhee an option for you?
post #7 of 26

It's so sad....

Bunion nailed it, unfortunately.

There just isn't any new snow. The stuff that's on the ground is old and not very deep. Coverage at Big Sky is thin; Moonlight is worse; Bridger can't open yet....it's bad. And it's not global warming exactly; it's plenty cold right now and has been for a few days. (It was unseasonably warm though for a few weeks.) Just no snow. Something about how the storms are lining up over the Pacific. WA & BC are getting it, and Utah to the south of us, but just not hitting here...yet.

Hopefully Bridger will get a Christmas present like it did a few years ago: they had to close for a day because of TOO MUCH new snow.

It's getting hard to be patient.

Go to Utah, if you can.
post #8 of 26
I was up at Bridger this weekend getting my pass. They need about another foot to get all the groomer runs open. The steeps need a couple feet. Its frustrating because there was way more snow on Halloween than we have now.....we had one of the warmest Novembers on record.
post #9 of 26
Bridger Bowl is opening on Friday. They claim to have good coverage on the lower lifts which only have beginner runs. They are going to open some of the upper lifts but state you will hit rocks. More snow is predicted to fall on Friday so hopefully conditions will improve.
post #10 of 26
Might as well report on Big Mountain, although you hadn't planned on coming up here. About 50% of the "named runs" are open. East Rim has pretty good coverage, considering, but Hellroaring Basin isn't open yet and neither are Lower Big Ravine, Mully's, Bad Rock, Lower Inspo, Lower Corkscrew, etc. Many runs that are normally groomed runs are NOT groomed and have plenty of trees sticking through. The back side is pretty much open and as usual the best snow on the mountain. The front side the snow is great.....if you're from the Mid-Atlantic where I hail from originally, but "icy" according to the locals. It's definitely firm. There are lots of snowmaking guns scattered around the place, an unusual sight really. The terrain park looks pathetic, although a few rails are in place. The superpipe is not yet ready, nor most of the terrain park that was in place last year. Basically, we need snow!

I've been breaking in new boots, so haven't hit Whitey's, Elephant's, North Bowl Face, etc., but they look nice if you want packed powder on your off-piste slope.
post #11 of 26
Sib, continue to pray for snow. I am booked for The Big Feb 1st to 11th. 3rd trip in 4 years. It's gotta be frustrating with the temps, but no fluff.

Now Steamboat I'm less worried about after this round (Jan 12 to 16) and their opening Pioneer Ridge tomorrow.
post #12 of 26
Did they tell you the Doug Smith race is scheduled during your stay? They close off the bowl pretty much and you can only cross at certain spots. The first day of the race is 2/8, but they'll be hardening the whole length of the course and putting up fences starting quite a while ahead of that. But I guess if you've come in the past you know that.
post #13 of 26
sib, during the dump a week ago, Elephants and North Bowl Face were in really good shape. Of course they were quickly cut and packed in.

So far, The Big Mountain is pretty much it in Montana.

snowful
post #14 of 26
Just got back from Bridger. Coverage was better than I expected. You could do Thunderoad & White Lightning on Pierre's Knob and Limestone on Alpine without having to avoid rocks. Many of the short, steep chutes on Pierre's were very good but you needed to know how to get into them without hitting rocks. I ended up staying all day because the skiing was good.

The downside is the snow won't hold up to the holiday hordes. They will scrape everything down to rocks unless we get more snow.
post #15 of 26
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Originally Posted by snowful View Post
sib, during the dump a week ago, Elephants and North Bowl Face were in really good shape. Of course they were quickly cut and packed in.

So far, The Big Mountain is pretty much it in Montana.

snowful
Maybe I'll hit them on Tuesday. Boots are feeling great, so I need to start pushing myself a bit.
post #16 of 26
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post
Did they tell you the Doug Smith race is scheduled during your stay? They close off the bowl pretty much and you can only cross at certain spots. The first day of the race is 2/8, but they'll be hardening the whole length of the course and putting up fences starting quite a while ahead of that. But I guess if you've come in the past you know that.
I read that in the events calendar recently (but we booked in August) and I had never been during the downhill events. As far as the DS Downhill course how does that affect Frontside skiing traffic? I know the course starts at the top of Ptarmigan Bowl, but do they allow regular skiing traffic to continue into Toni Matt? I guess the most important question is what do they do with all the skiing traffic that feeds into Corkscrew from Heep Steep, Langley, Powder Trap etc? At least with the rest of the frontside right of the downhill course (if your looking at the mountain) you can bailout at the bottom onto Inspiration.
post #17 of 26
The Doug is usually the same time each year. If you're interested in pictures I took last year showing the course, click here. Pictures of the SG. (Hint: Hit F11 to get a full screen)

You would be able to go down Toni Matt with no issues. There will be NO skiing traffic via Corkscrew, the race heads down that section (this is the section where Bill Johnson and Dane Spencer fell during their races). Heep Steep or Powder Trap? You'll need to head over to Langley or wait at the crossing by "Launch Pad" for the racers to go by. Langley will dump you onto Russ's Street and you will also have to wait at the Russ Street crossing for the racers to go by. The Face will present equivalent problems, but they MIGHT have Chair 5 open if you want to just that part of the bowl. (Big MIGHT, I wouldn't count on it.)

I skied Good Medicine and Elephant's today. They are in great shape. Hellroaring Basin is still not open and I hear that before they open that lift they need THREE MORE FEET of snow! They may open down to the traverse, but I don't do that darned traverse.
post #18 of 26
Life is good, Snowbowl has 48 inches at the summit, 7 inches in the last two days, more to come. The base under the new is perfectly fused.

I sat out today, for the first time this year, as my son didn't want to ski, so I sat with him and missed out on the almost 5 inches of new. It was a good day though, and I'll be on the first chair tomorrow. It's due to snow some tonight.
post #19 of 26
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post
The Doug is usually the same time each year. If you're interested in pictures I took last year showing the course, click here. Pictures of the SG. (Hint: Hit F11 to get a full screen)

You would be able to go down Toni Matt with no issues. There will be NO skiing traffic via Corkscrew, the race heads down that section (this is the section where Bill Johnson and Dane Spencer fell during their races). Heep Steep or Powder Trap? You'll need to head over to Langley or wait at the crossing by "Launch Pad" for the racers to go by. Langley will dump you onto Russ's Street and you will also have to wait at the Russ Street crossing for the racers to go by. The Face will present equivalent problems, but they MIGHT have Chair 5 open if you want to just that part of the bowl. (Big MIGHT, I wouldn't count on it.)

I skied Good Medicine and Elephant's today. They are in great shape. Hellroaring Basin is still not open and I hear that before they open that lift they need THREE MORE FEET of snow! They may open down to the traverse, but I don't do that darned traverse.
Thanks for the info! Cool photos of the course, but the SG link is not browsing. In the several years I have visited I have never seen Chair 5 open so it wouldn't surprise me if it was closed. Well hopefully this weeks storm helps with the 3 feet issue for the Basin.
post #20 of 26
Ooops. Try this
post #21 of 26
I was up at Bridger yesterday. It got a good 12 inch dump which helped make up for some of the loss due to holiday crowds (which are much lower than normal) skidding down the hill. The groomers are still skiing well and mainly rock free. The steeps are a bit dicey with many rocks uncovered especially at the top of the runs. I wouldn't take good skis into them but they are skiable with rock skis.

I'll be at Bridger the morning of Jan. 1 if you'd like to meet up and get a tour. Let me know in this thread or via PM.
post #22 of 26
Thread Starter 
has anyone been to big sky lately. If so how is it doin especially the peak how does it look up there? how is the bowl, challenger lift, or what is doin the best there?
post #23 of 26
I just skied Big Mountain 28/29, the 27th it was pretty warm with scatter rain in lower lots (I was told) foggy with very heavy snow up above. 4-6 new thurs am but with winds so it went in hiding. Back side was all pretty nice with boot top fluff in the trees and most of the black runs, moguls were soft for a while. Fri, cold and clear, groomers were better than off trail, my legs and knees only like soft bumps anymore. back side was nice all day, bowls under chair 1 was nice after a little bit of sun. I did start to notice that on the groomers a few spots starting to show through, few branch's etc etc. Not many only in a very high pressure area. They need snow, but, what resort ever has enough? Not too bad of crowds for the holidays.
post #24 of 26

Big Sky

Hi minnesotaman, I skied Big Sky for the last month. The Bowl is in great shape. Liberty Bow, Marx and Lenin are in (relatively) good shape. The rocks are visible and avoidable. But, because of no new snow for a while, there are "slide for life" conditions.
Challenger is also skiable, just don't expect bottomless powder. And brandnew skis might not be the best idea either.
I'll be at the mountain every day of next week. So, if you want to meet up, leave a message at the ski school.
Ursula
post #25 of 26
How's Hangman's? My daughter is there for races.
post #26 of 26
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Originally Posted by migibs View Post
Sib, continue to pray for snow. I am booked for The Big Feb 1st to 11th. 3rd trip in 4 years. It's gotta be frustrating with the temps, but no fluff.
So, did you make it up here? You hit a point with not a lot of off-piste skiing, combined with lots of bad visibility.
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