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Heavenly Valley Yet?

post #1 of 27
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Have place to stay Monday and Tuesday... worth it? Have to drive 200+ miles from Bay Area to get there. Advise please, can't decide. P.S. this would be my first time to break in my season pass
post #2 of 27
http://www.skiheavenly.com/conditions/
todays snow report. It's your call. then again, the place should be empty, considering the days our coming up
post #3 of 27
i, too, have yet to break in the season pass.

i'm holding out for more snow and the Nevada side being fully open.

then again, i'm picky.

and as it has been noted on other threads, I need to get over the gondola entry/pay/taking the shuttle from the tram area parking phobia I have cultivated after years of parking up close for free.
post #4 of 27
Thread Starter 

still waiting...

Yet? or at least following the holiday blackout dates?
post #5 of 27
Why would Heavenly *ever* be your choice if you are from the Bay Area, when Kirkwood, Squaw, Alpine & Sugar Bowl are the same distance?
post #6 of 27
Well she may have connections there.One getting 'comped' passes does't look the gift horse in the mouth.lol
But i agree, why Heavenly? I live next door to it, and i don't even ski there anymore. Have connections to Sierria and Northstar.
post #7 of 27
i ride Heavenly. have done so for the past 3 seasons.

i get the $300 pass. why? my family cabin is leased out the last 2 weeks of every month, thus leaving me no place to stay on the North Shore half of every month. i end up doing day trips to Heavenly on the off weekends or i grab a cheap Motel 6 room.

the real allure for me, though, are the 3 "free" passes to Vail/Beaver Creek/Keystone/Breckinridge. as a result I make an annual trip to Colo every season.

also, if you know where to ride, Heavenly ain't bad. but if i told you where to ride, then it might get crowded and become a bad experience.

post #8 of 27
Could'nt agree more with you Dookey. My buddies moved out there after college, and even though I did the IBM thing, I've skied on average 10-12 days out there every season. I love the cheap season pass. I love knowing exactly where to go to get the good stuff on powder days, and I love the nightlife. I stay at a cheap hotel across from the gondola, and walk to the lifts in the morning and home from the casinos at night.

Any thoughts on when the trees would open? They have received a few feet of snow recently..shouldn't that have done it? Are they waiting for the holiday crowds to disperse before opening them up because that would be sweet! . I'm heading out there Jan 2 - 12.
post #9 of 27
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Originally Posted by Powdr View Post
Why would Heavenly *ever* be your choice if you are from the Bay Area, when Kirkwood, Squaw, Alpine & Sugar Bowl are the same distance?
Kirkwood - in desperate need of more modern lifts.
Squaw - only contender, but doesn’t have the season pass dealios, nor my friends..
Alpine – are you serious?
Sugar Bowl – not going to deign to answer this one.

Your question suggest that you really don’t know Heavenly that well.
post #10 of 27
I understand Powdr's comment and would add Mt. Rose to his list.

But Heavenly does have its moments. Specifically the tree skiing on storm days when Squaw/Alpine in particular will be almost completely shut down. And for the bump fanatics Gunbarrel is one of the best.

I think the rap comes mainly from conditions on peak weekends, where the combination of layout and crowds can be aggravating. I stay away during those times and most of my days at Heavenly have been very enjoyable.

In his backyard in Utah Powdr could probably pick out the times/conditions during which the areas he considers second-line would be best. Most of us who ski the Sierra regularly can do likewise.
post #11 of 27
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Kirkwood - in desperate need of more modern lifts.
Lifts are that important to you? Over terrain/snow? Hmm.

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Squaw - only contender, but doesn’t have the season pass dealios, nor my friends..
What, half the Bay Area there and you can't find a single friend? I thought Squaw was *the* place to be seen, if that sort of stuff is important to you.

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Alpine – are you serious?
Yes. and it's cheap.

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Sugar Bowl – not going to deign to answer this one.
What, can't handle the truth? One of the best medium sized areas in the US. BC access is top notch.

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Your question suggest that you really don’t know Heavenly that well.
That's probably true as every time I try to give Heavenly another look, I end up dissapointed. Crowded, crappy/less snow, marginal terrain, lame layout, ugly (not the views - the mountain itself), slums at the base. I will not make that mistake again.

Powdr
post #12 of 27
I'd say if you have your pass in hand, load up the car and head on up. If you have a pair of rock skis I'd recommend bringing them. My buddy was up there before the last storm and beat up his skis.:

We took the trip up to Kirkwood 2 days ago and have no regrets, we got 2 feet in 2 days and once the winds lie down we will be up on top skiing pow.

BTW You are right about Kirkwood: that's why I have my season pass at Kirkwood and love the terrain and snow. Oh yeah, and the lines...what lines?
post #13 of 27
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Originally Posted by allMTgrl View Post
Kirkwood - in desperate need of more modern lifts.
Squaw - only contender, but doesn’t have the season pass dealios, nor my friends..
Alpine – are you serious?
Sugar Bowl – not going to deign to answer this one.

Your question suggest that you really don’t know Heavenly that well.

From someone who has been a pass holder at all these resorts:

Kirkwood - World Class Resort
Squaw - World Class Resort
Alpine - World Class Resort
Sugar Bowl - Fun Resort - best vibe!
Heavenly - World Class Resort

They all lack one thing - snow....
post #14 of 27
Skied at Heavenly last friday the 29th. Basically a couple blue groomers open on both sides. Gunbarrell was open with minimal coverage but didn't see any other advanced terrain open. Firs impressions of the resort from the ground would be "oh my god, they need snow.":
post #15 of 27
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Originally Posted by mkevenson View Post
Skied at Heavenly last friday the 29th. Basically a couple blue groomers open on both sides. Gunbarrell was open with minimal coverage but didn't see any other advanced terrain open. Firs impressions of the resort from the ground would be "oh my god, they need snow.":
yes we do need snow. Have yet to had to dig out buried car in parking lot. 4 ins, here, 6 inchs there. Then the wind has been blowing everthing away.
post #16 of 27
I know it is fashionable to bash Heavenly. as someone who has skied Utah (PC and cottonwood resorts and snowbasin), Vail, whistler, jackson hole and zermatt - let me say heavenly can hold its own. I think "traversing" is a legitimate beef - but frankly i found traversing at Alta and Vail equally painfull.
Trees are great. Mott/Killbrew are phenomenal. as far as crowds - I have seen longer lines at Whistler.
post #17 of 27
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I know it is fashionable to bash Heavenly. as someone who has skied Utah (PC and cottonwood resorts and snowbasin), Vail, whistler, jackson hole and zermatt - let me say heavenly can hold its own. I think "traversing" is a legitimate beef - but frankly i found traversing at Alta and Vail equally painfull.
Trees are great. Mott/Killbrew are phenomenal. as far as crowds - I have seen longer lines at Whistler.
Marty you hit the nail on the head, for some strange reason it is fashionable to bash Heavenly... The funny thing is the people I know who always do the bashing are the least impressive on the MT...

As far as the travesing is concern, I would think that's inevitable when you have that much terrain to choose from. Let's not forget that you're crossing state borders in the process. Further Heavenly has WITHOUT A DOUBT some of best tree skiing and off-piste in the Sierras.. then again, if you're not in the know, you don't go.
post #18 of 27
allMtgrl, shhhhhhhhh don't let out our secret of Heavenly valley
post #19 of 27
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Greetings all, thought it was time to bump this thread. I was on the MT last week (Monday and Tuesday); and although the temps were cozy b/w 40-50 both days, the coverage was weak in many areas. Since then there has been a few additional inches, and I noticed Motts has been open... I am curious as to what state Motts is in? I plan on waiting for another dump before hiking up there again though...
post #20 of 27
i've had some good days at heavenly. here's my problems with it:
1. south lake tahoe is basically a shitty place to be. tons of traffic, annoying goons there to booze and gamble (not so much ski).
2. doesn't get as much snow as kirkwood fer real.
3. doesn't get as much snow as kirkwood fer real.

I must admit i had a great day there skiiing mott canyon, and the views are beyond belief. But I prefer squaw, kirkwood and alpine meadow. (what's your beef with alpine).
I definitely see your point about squaw's season pass prices. Other than that, its really a matter of taste--i prefer small and out of the way, with more snow.
post #21 of 27
Traversing Heavenly is TRAVERSING to the max! It really hurts an otherwise OK mountain, and they need to seriously do something about it. I for one will not go again solely because of this problem.
post #22 of 27
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I have no beef with Alpine, I have a season pass at Heavenly and thus don't want to spend more $$$ for a lift tic at this point.

As far as the traversing is concern, if you're riding I understand it may be annoying, however I can cross from CA --> NV or NV --> CA w/little effort. Heavenly has vast terrian and many great high speed lifts. I just want to know what Motts was like this season -- anyone been there yet?
post #23 of 27
OK, cause you wrote Alpine-are you serious. This implies there's something wrong with it. I haven't skiied there a ton but it *may* be the best value in tahoe.
post #24 of 27
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I haven't skied Alpine in several years, from what I remember, and based on their online stats/trail map I just don't think it's in the same league as Heavenly -- that's all I was saying.... I concede that I may be completely wrong...

Heavenly's season pass was only $350...

More less I am a true all MT skiier. When well covered, Heavenly has fantastic tree skiing -- and decent advanced terrian..
post #25 of 27
Was there on monday the 15th.

Mott's needs a lot more snow. Mott's south facing stuff was not ridable. The North facing runs ('Bills', 'the Y' etc) were skier packed powder with a few rocks. The best i found was boot deep uncut on 'north 40'. Though at that point in the ridge, top-to-bottom is only about 300 verticle feet. The creek was showing nearly all the way through the canyon.

Much better skiing outside of mott in the north facing trees above 9000 feet.

All in all, i'll be riding my bike till they get a lot more snow.
post #26 of 27
I have a Heavenly Pass. It only cost me $319, so you got rooked out of an additional $31!!!!!



Heavenly is okay, if you know where to go. But of all the resorts in Tahoe it gets the most clusterf@#kery.

I was up there a couple of weeks ago and coverage was bare (Motts was closed and attempting tree skiing off to the side of the Boulder lift would have resulted in major core shots). I took two buddies and got them in for $40 (you get 4 family/friends $40 tix with the pass). The regular ticket price it well over $70, which turns a lot of folk off. I don't mind paying $70 at Heavenly's sister Colorado resorts, but truthfully, Heavenly ain't worth $70 (and their discount tix aren't that much cheaper). That's the main reason most of my friends "hate" Heavenly. Why drop $70 for a day, when you can ride 2 days at Alpine for $82 with less people and some great off-piste bowls?

At any rate, I took my two buddies and it was an uncharacteristically sparse day at Heavenly. I mean nobody was there. First thing my buddies said (one is from Utah via Sun Valley, the other from SF) was "Is it always this crowded?" When I replied "Dudes, this is empty" they were stunned.

Bottomline, yes, Heavenly has some great terrain and yes it is big, but it is also crowded and a bitch to navigate from one end of the resort to the other.

Don't get me wrong, I've had a season pass for 3 seasons running, but I also do a lot of riding at Squaw, Alpine, and Sugarbowl with stops at Homewood and Kirkwood and Northstar just to keep things fresh. I personally only get the Heavenly pass for the 3 free tickets to the sister resorts in Colo, which gets me out of state at least once a year.

I enjoy the vibe more at Alpine and Sugarbowl, truthfully.
post #27 of 27
I skied Heavenly from Jan 2-12. On the 4th we received a monster storm...14-16 and all the trees got filled in and it was great powder though rock skis were a must. However, there is enough base now that with another big storm, everything will be bombable. I just do'nt see any storms on the horizon.
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