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Worst ski season ever?

post #1 of 43
Thread Starter 
OK, for some lucky bastards that doesn't apply obviously...

I've been hearing that this hasn't just been a bad season, it's been the worst in decades.

I know that in my memory it's the first time I can recall the pre-christmas and post-christmas periods being pretty much devoid of any meaningful snow.
post #2 of 43
oh, so sorry.

my home area has a base of 90" and a summit depth of about 190". I'll be skinning up for turns long after the lifts close.

Irulan
post #3 of 43
Worst season I've ever experienced... 24 years of skiing.

Spag
post #4 of 43
Irulan . . . he did say "for some it obviously doesn't apply" didn't he?

This is the worst season I've ever seen.
post #5 of 43
I can remember worse ski seasons here in the Midwest back in the days before snowmaking. I think natural snow this year was pretty bad though.
post #6 of 43
It's not so hot here in Vermont, is it, Todd? But even so, there have been some great individual days, yesterday being one of them . . . and then came today, a non-starter. Right now, it's actually snowing here in Essex - I hope it's more in the mountains, and that sometimes is the case. Unless we get a serious infusion of real snow, the season here, good or bad, may come to an end a month early. Sad.
post #7 of 43
Nope - its been pretty bleak. Last year wasn't a bad year to move from West to East, but this year has had some of the most horrible days I've experienced anywhere in the world . . . today was one of them. Absolutely solid textured crust nearly everywhere. But then, yesterday was one of those epic days where it was awesome snow and I got paid to rip hard all day with great skiers. So, win some - lose some!
post #8 of 43
I've been skiing lift-served runs in NW Michigan since 1948. I can't recall a season when most ski runs weren't open before Christmas Day, particularly since the advent of snowmaking.

I CAN recall vividly seasons in which we skied at Thanksgiving time and were rained out to the bare ground before Christmas or at Christmas vacation time.
post #9 of 43
Yeah, I got some pretty snide remarks about the condition of my skis when I got them tuned up at Fernie. I'm thinking about that thread we had sometime last year, "Girls who ski, rock" but in my case, you can take the meaning literally!
post #10 of 43
Wow. I'm feeling guilty. We've done pretty good and are still getting hit. This week should be another good one. Just remember. Last year we sucked and I believe you all had it pretty good. Global Warming????????????? :
post #11 of 43
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lisamarie:
Yeah, I got some pretty snide remarks about the condition of my skis when I got them tuned up at Fernie. I'm thinking about that thread we had sometime last year, "Girls who ski, rock" but in my case, you can take the meaning literally! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You should hold those gouged out bottoms up in pride!

Hey, you're learning how to ski in New England. Not anyone can ski sheets of blue ice interspersed by chunks of granite and still stay standing. It's a world easier to go from skiing NE ice to western powder than the other way around. If you can survive the Front Four at Stowe on an icy day you'll be able to ski anything!

I hear people here referring to packed powder as "ice." Speaking as a displaced New Englander, they don't what ice is.... Cheers!

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ March 11, 2002 02:17 AM: Message edited 1 time, by Mike C. ]</font>
post #12 of 43
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BobT:
Wow. I'm feeling guilty. We've done pretty good and are still getting hit. This week should be another good one. Just remember. Last year we sucked and I believe you all had it pretty good. Global Warming????????????? :<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

isn't that the point? you gloat on the good years, and for the bag years you whine a lot and say "bite me" or some such thing.

Irulan
post #13 of 43
Obviously this doesn't apply to everyone here, but we had 8" of (fluffy) pow last Wednesday morning, 18" of (fluffy) face-shots and freshies Friday morning at Hyak, and for desert we received another 4-6" while it snowed all day today.

Considering that I missed 8 weeks of the middle of the season due to major surgery, I am quite happy to smile and gloat shamelessly...

You folks out in the midwest and ice coast can come out here and join us for spring skiing (if it ever gets here)...
post #14 of 43
Personally i've never had a bad year skiing - east or west. I remember a string of years in the early 70's that nothing in the east was even open for christmas or most of Jan (pre-snowmaking days). We got lot's of skating in - good hockey years - and travelled to places that tried to open with 3" of snow on twigs and grass. It makes the phat days even better. It's what you make of it.

BTW - NE still has 5-8 weeks left of the season - usually the best conditions and terrain open of the year if you know where to look. Hint: It ain't on a golf course
post #15 of 43
BTW - NE still has 5-8 weeks left of the season - usually the best conditions and terrain open of the year if you know where to look. Hint: It ain't on a golf course[/QB][/quote]


I live in the NE and let me give you a hint. With the exception of Stratton, don't look in WMass or Southern Vermont.
post #16 of 43
So, how IS Stratton? That's a classy place [steep on the ticket prices though]. If it's lasting, I'd like to take wifey there. She's seen the photos I took at the trade show last month and would like to sample the place more directly! So,how is it snow-wise?
post #17 of 43
I don't know BSP - SOME of NE may have 5-8 weeks left, but things in NH were pretty bleak this weekend. Saturday was epic - the weather was great, the snow soft, but the cover is getting bad. The rain in Saturday night didn't help either. You usually don't see bare spots this early in March. A warm spell could mean a very early end to this year's NE skiing. My opinion - beyond a few memorable days this has been a terrible season here. It's tough coming off the season we had last year to be jolted back to the realities of a NE winter.
post #18 of 43
It's true. It's the worst.
post #19 of 43
I skied Bromley on Saturday. My first and last day of the season. It was EPIC. Temps in the high 50's, no sun to turn the snow into mush, no lines, plenty of coverage on 75% of the trails. Hero snow plain and simple. Fast GS turns on soft corduroy, felt like skiing on cake icing....Soft bumps, big air, old friends, cold beer.

I don't think there's much more than a month in the lift served NE if this weather keeps up. Sure there are the big snowmakers to keep a couple trails open, but this years almost over folks....

It's been a pretty tame year, maybe not the worst, but a close contender, especially after last year...
post #20 of 43
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by oboe:
So, how IS Stratton? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Still flat and boring.
post #21 of 43
CS is talking hiking/skinning...
post #22 of 43
I'll ski on pretty much anything, just to get out there.
post #23 of 43
It sure has been a disapointing season. I've just returned from some Eastern races and Junior Olympics in Maine. Both Sugarloaf and Sundayriver are in a bad way compared to this time most winters. Stopped over in Waitsfield VT on the way back to NY, Sugarbush and MRG ain't look'n good. Three to four weeks at most, that's my prediction.
My home mountain and the three others here in Central New York are closed already. They'll open for one day to accomedate end of the season races but not for general skiing.

Well, I'm going north this weekend. The JIII's have JO's at Whiteface. They've got snow. Anyone want to join me feel free. I'm there from Thursday thru till Sunday.

CERAF
post #24 of 43
nakona, if I were a "karma" kind of person, I would say that this is just the way the wheel turns - last year was the East's best in maybe 20 years or more. this season is just balancing things out.

kidding.

but I do think last year may have caused some great expectations (sorry Chuckie) for this year, and I know that my parents, who live in Holderness NH, told me it was a pretty mild and relatively snow-free winter.

in the West, we're getting some nice conditions, easily the best in about 7 years or more, at least in the Northern Rockies. our season last year was as bad as yours this year. just pray it doesn't happen for you guys 2 years in a row.
post #25 of 43
Dudes,

I'm at Smugglers' Notch, Vermont, every weekend as a volly patroller. We have had the WARMEST winter ON RECORD, talking over a century of data and, at this point, the 5TH DRIEST winter ON RECORD. Whoa. As you can imagine, times have been tough. However, I have been pleasantly surprised each time I go to the mountain, because it has been better than I thought it would be. Looking out my office window now, there is ABSOLUTELY NO SNOW to be seen, and it has been this way for a while and it was this way in December. Thank Christ for snowmaking, at least they were able to lay something down. It was OVER 60 DEGREES on Saturday. The snow was like cream-of-wheat, and, to the good, the blue ice turned slushy on top by midday. It was spring skiing, but 6 weeks early. I feel bad for the resorts, because even if the slopes are skieable, if people don't see snow in their yards, they're not inclined to go skiing, Bears excepted, of course.
post #26 of 43
I was looking at my copy of "The American Ski Book" last evening. History has it that from time to time, the weather conspires to force the movers and shakers of the ski industry to go belly up. I believe there was a multi year snow drought in the 70's that hurt the NE business.
I am amazed at how "good" the skiing has been this year with machine made everywhere.
Oreo skiing, Brown on the sides, white in the middle.
At least it is warm enough to get an edge in the blue ice.

Regards

CalG
post #27 of 43
I was looking at my copy of "The American Ski Book" last evening. History has it that from time to time, the weather conspires to force the movers and shakers of the ski industry to go belly up. I believe there was a multi year snow drought in the 70's that hurt the NE business.
I am amazed at how "good" the skiing has been this year with machine made everywhere.
Oreo skiing, Brown on the sides, white in the middle.
At least it is warm enough to get an edge in the blue ice.

Regards

CalG
post #28 of 43
This has been a nasty year but I think two years ago it was worst then this.

I think the worst part for me is.. the two years we has the best dumping on was when I was pregnant both times. How sucky is that!!! : But the girls are worth it.

At least we could keep up on the Doggie poop this year.

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ March 11, 2002 03:12 PM: Message edited 1 time, by SnO Eagle # ]</font>
post #29 of 43
Grand Rapids Mi has just gone over the 100" march for the year. Most in 20 or 30 years (avg. is 75"). However, ski areas up north of here have not had a good season at all. Go figure
post #30 of 43
5 inches of snow... think about that, thats less than the typical dump in colorado, thank goodness for the midwest
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