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post #1 of 19
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United Airlines what are they thinking?

In this month's United Airlines Hemispheres in-flight magazine recommending the "ski pro-prefered" winter gear:

Dynastar Legend Pro Rider $1,095 or Voelkl Supersport Allstar Titaniums 1,115.00

Nordica Dobermann Aggressor Boot $995.00.

Arc'teryx Theta AR $450.00

Marmot's Super Hero softshell $260.00

SmartWool ski socks $18.95

Cloudveil Patroller Gloves $ 40.00

Black Diamond Carbon Fiber Ski Poles $99.95

Peter Kray, the article's author may have scored all that swag for mentioning it in the in-flight magazine. However, when you total the cost up it comes to $2,958.90 (using the less expensive Dynastar skis). Times that by two if you include your spouse or significant other and it comes to$5,917.80.: The article did not mention base layers, helmets, goggles, lift tickets, hotel, meals, any kids and, oh yeah, the cost of flying to a destination ski resort.

Kind of a turn-off for a lot of people who might otherwise be thinking of taking up skiing or planning a ski vacation. Ski gear is not necessarily cheap but it need not be anywhere near that expensive either. IMHO, it would have been a lot better for the magazine to have written tips on how to make a ski vacation affordable. Most of United's passengers are flying coach. Even First Class has more than a few traveling on Frequent Flyer miles.
post #2 of 19

it doesn't have to be that way

Was out this past Sunday with a group of six recreational skiers at a ski area offering special early season $7 lift tickets. Group was totally outfitted for probably less than an arm OR a leg of your United pro. All had a GREAT time under blue skies and manmade packed powder conditions. Three of us on shaped skis from swaps or rentals, three on truly ancient skinny skis. All but one of us wearing Wal-Mart or Sports Authority type winter clothing, including an 8 yr old first timer in camouflage garb.
All had a GREAT time under blue skies and packed manmade powder conditions.

PS: we're the same guys buying up $140 United roundtrip airfares from the East coast to Denver right now.
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Was out this past Sunday with a group of six recreational skiers at a ski area offering special early season $7 lift tickets. Group was totally outfitted for probably less than an arm OR a leg of your United pro. All had a GREAT time under blue skies and packed manmade powder conditions. Three of us on shaped skis from swaps or rentals, three on truly ancient skinny skis. All but one of us wearing Wal-Mart or Sports Authority type winter clothing, including an 8 yr old first timer in camouflage garb.
All had a GREAT time under blue skies and packed manmade powder conditions.

Manmade powder? you hill has better snowmaking than mine:
post #4 of 19
You'll need bindings for the Dynastars- add $400
post #5 of 19
"of a turn-off for a lot of people who might otherwise be thinking of taking up skiing or planning a ski vacation"
right, like people don't realize that there are other alternatives out there....
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Manmade powder? you hill has better snowmaking than mine:
Right you are. Wisp, MD had an excellent manmade packed powder surface on 14 trails/5 lifts on 12/10/06; nicely assisted by one of the world's most powerful snowmaking systems and one week of cold temps. The computerized, tower mounted system taps into a 4000 acre lake a couple hundred yards from the base of the slopes for a virtually unlimited water supply. Here's some more on their snowmaking prowess: http://www.skinorthcarolina.com/arti...ot&article=993
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Right you are. Wisp, MD had an excellent manmade packed powder surface on 14 trails/5 lifts on 12/10/06; nicely assisted by one of the world's most powerful snowmaking systems and one week of cold temps. The computerized, tower mounted system taps into a 4000 acre lake a couple hundred yards from the base of the slopes for a virtually unlimited water supply. Here's some more on their snowmaking prowess: http://www.skinorthcarolina.com/arti...ot&article=993

Wow, that really is impressive!
post #8 of 19
Before someone else does, I'll go ahead and burst my own bubble. All that great snowmaking capacity serves a hill with only 700 feet of vertical. You can't have everything :-)
post #9 of 19
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Before someone else does, I'll go ahead and burst my own bubble. All that great snowmaking capacity serves a hill with only 700 feet of vertical. You can't have everything :-)
Doesn't Wisp get some ridiculous amount of natural snow as well? I learned to ski there (really !) in December '92, and I distinctly remember the entire place was open. Those 700 feet of vertical seemed like a LOT back when I could make about 3 turns before going *plop*.
post #10 of 19
at least they are talking about our sport...
post #11 of 19

the gloves were a good deal

or was that 40 a misprint
post #12 of 19
What skiing level do you need to be to really take advantage of this equipment? :
post #13 of 19
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Doesn't Wisp get some ridiculous amount of natural snow as well? I learned to ski there (really !) in December '92, and I distinctly remember the entire place was open. Those 700 feet of vertical seemed like a LOT back when I could make about 3 turns before going *plop*.
I grew up with in a few miles of the Wisp, and they do get a decent of natural snow (from an east coast perspective). I think they have an annual average or around 100 inches/year. In terms of snowmaking, their big plus is the cold weather they usually have from late Nov-late March, and having the ability to pull water from Deep Creek Lake, which is right next to the Wisp.

They've also done some major updrades in terms of automated snowmaking, new lifts, and terrain expansion over the last 2 years, so they are trying hard to improve the resort.
post #14 of 19
Anyone who pays anything close to those prices is a moron.

On the bright side, maybe those prices will discourage more people from crowding the slopes.
post #15 of 19
It's also a sort of marketing ploy. Figure the reader, Jake D, sees that a good outfit for the pro will cost him 2 grand. Then, he goes to the local ski shop, and gets an intermediate set-up for 500 after boots, binders, and planks. He thinks he's saving a lot of money, and he really isn't...
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Anyone who pays anything close to those prices is a moron.

On the bright side, maybe those prices will discourage more people from crowding the slopes.
You are right on both counts. It seems though, that since Denver is a major United hub and the issue contains both ski resort Ad's and another article promoting travel to ski destinations (all in Colorado), that they would have thought things through a little more carefully. This kind of thinking may help explain in some small way, why United has been struggling of late. Most commercial airline traveler's are not the rich and famous these days.
post #17 of 19
The kind of skier that can handle LPs or Allstars is certainly aware of where to get a better deal. Anyway, that is the "Ski Pro Preferred" gear. Did the article cover any other levels? I think we are missing the context here if a critique is in order.

I'm still waiting for United to figure out how to make me and my luggage arrive at the same place at the same time, and not cause damage to items like skis.
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... Anyway, that is the "Ski Pro Preferred" gear. Did the article cover any other levels?
No it didn't. If it had, it could have been a good article.
I guess we should be thankful that Mr. Kray is a writer rather than a United baggage handler. Of course, he could be both which might help further explain things.
post #19 of 19
I rode up a lift at Copper Mountain last year with a guy who was skiing on skis (and bindings) which he pulled out of a recycling bin at Frisco (a town a few miles away). He saved 100%!
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