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post #31 of 41

I don't think anybody has tried this angle yet. Todd, you suck.

Stop complaining. We're on the verge of one of the best winters in many years. There may be better terrain, scarier wildlife, more consistent snow, friendlier crowds and more fulfilling livin somewhere else.

You think we don't know that? Life is an ongoing compromise. I can think of no place else where it is more fulfilling when the snow does come than right where you are.

Hang in there it should be a good year, if you let it.

post #32 of 41
And of course we all KNOW that the best skiers come from NE.

There’s something to be said about learning to ski on grass, rocks and ice.…..makes you truly appreciate that glorious winter playground we New Englanders refer to as “Out West”.

Todd, if you’re really down, make a trip to Jay this year and ski the woods OB next to Timbuktu . From the top, take a close look at the trees, and I SWEAR you will think that you are at the top of Solitude somewhere. Honestly!!
post #33 of 41
I haven't skied in the NE in (thankfully), over 15 years but I noticed something recently that completely shocked me. Shocked me to the point of posting on this board to ensure it was correct.

I don't remember the numbers and am too lazy to look it up but the "Beast of the East," Killington, which is advertised as being simply HUGE ("we have 7 mountains!") is about the same size as the little locals hills in CA and CO that don't even advertise in ski magazines. Combine the tiny size of the "Beast" with the huge crowds it attracts with the horrible weather the East has had lately and I can see why you'd say New England sucks.

I have a sister-in-law who lives in New Hampshire. for 50 weeks of the year, she complains about the weather. However, for the 2 weeks in the fall when the leaves are turning colors, she floods our email box with how wonderful it is to live in New England. No thanks.

Maybe there's a good reason why I pay $600,000 for an 1800 square foot fixer-upper [img]smile.gif[/img]
post #34 of 41

The North East DOES bite the big one.

Weather, attitudes. terrain, All bad! BAD! BAD! So bad, all I can do is hope.

"The god of the Rockies is more generous than the God of the Greens"

However, when I realize that there a half dozen areas in a hours drive, Two of my ski buddies and I are planning to burn vacation days taking advantage of Thursdays at Stratton for $15 a pop.
My kids get to go skiing once a week as part of the school athletic program. 'Something starts to feel pretty good about this place.

Fortunately I don't expect to "find fullfillment" while sliding down a snowy slope. I just want to enjoy what bits of life I can

Now, for any of you who are even considering coming to Vermont, Please reread the first four lines of this post.

post #35 of 41
New England may suck but I rather ski on ice and rocks than be king of Salt Lake City. Talk about suck!

The snow out west may be the best but there is no way I would live in Utah/Wyoming/Colorado for more than a week at a time.

There I said it and I feel better. [img]graemlins/evilgrin.gif[/img]

[ November 04, 2002, 10:59 AM: Message edited by: Robbski ]
post #36 of 41
Thread Starter 
Come on now 154, I wasn't stepping on your studly toes!

Its funny, as this thread grows and lasts - its as if the title gets more of a smack to it or something, I figured people would read the whole, not just the title - so that they would see where I acknowledged I was feeling grumpy, whiney and drunk . . . and let it go! [img]smile.gif[/img] And most people did. But, I changed the title just now anyways, cool EDIT feature this software has.

Incidentally, about Colorado and I-80 and all that I agree it has problems. Folks who live at the steeper and deeper parts of CO though like Crested Butte, Telluride and Wolf Creek . . . pretty much live in a quite different universe than the Front Range and I-80 corridor. When I talk about CO I'm talking about SW Colorado which is much more relaxed socially than the front range of CO, and therefore a quantum leap above most other places.

Its not the fault of any area geographically, old college psych experiment: you put more rats in a cage, even with plenty of food and water - they start being rather "impolite" to each other. Just a natural reaction to crowds. Certainly some people love it, and thats great - but we spent millions of years as hunter gatherer's living widely dispersed, only in the last couple of hundred years have we seen the kind of population densitys that we have now. We are not adapted to it as a whole, though clearly many individuals very much enjoy it - which is fine. As the owner of Wolf Creek Ski Area, who also used to own Santa Fe ski area said to me sometime ago when I was running the Ski School at WC: "Hey, don't ever try and talk people out of living in the city. Don't ever talk it down. Or else they will move here!"

And Mt. Washington, Tucks. I've skied it. Fun place. With a ski patrol and all of its traffic it is of course is FAR safer than the backcountry in most of the world, but still fun. Basically a ski area with lifts.

Cal - keeping this place a secret would be a fun idea, too bad the most densely poplulated part of the country is just south of here!

P.S. Just to give people more stuff to get defensive about - Its 36 degrees, and its raining. Its not making me more "studly" to be here in it, but I'm dealing with it by getting on my skiers edge and watching "Blizzard of Ahhhs" [img]smile.gif[/img]

Cover enough ground in this post?

[ November 04, 2002, 12:41 PM: Message edited by: GravityGuru (Todd) ]
post #37 of 41
Originally posted by GravityGuru (Todd):

Come on now 154, I wasn't stepping on your studly toes!
snip- blah blah blah blah---snip
Cover enough ground in this post?
Ha ha, you already did on the first page, just thought I'd fight fire with fire!!

We hear ya. I'd miss your old stomping grounds too. Trouble is, you're in MY old stomping grounds...
post #38 of 41
Thread Starter 
Hey, riling me up for fun!? No fair! [img]smile.gif[/img] Well, my fault for being easy game.

I guess all of our stomping grounds change with time, why can't we all have just have Learjet's though? Could fly anywhere in the country just for a quick afternoon ski trip then!

[ November 04, 2002, 01:06 PM: Message edited by: GravityGuru (Todd) ]
post #39 of 41
Been skiing my entire life in N.E.
Anyone that's been skiing NE for 30 years has learned to take the good with the bad. And I dare say the good FAR outweighs the bad.

That being said: I'M GOIN' TO KILLINGTON this coming weekend! Anyone else gonna be up there? (11th & 12th)

post #40 of 41
Yeah, but on the upside, there can't be as many Californians out there.(who ski like they drive like they make love - fast and careless)

just kidding... [img]tongue.gif[/img]
post #41 of 41
Originally posted by GravityGuru (Todd):
I'm too busy lately to be in Epic very much, which is a shame because I think its the best web resource for skiing out there.

And ok - that title designed to get a rise out of people. But I'm feeling irritable. And I also feel its the truth.

I've lived in Oregon, California, Colorado, New Mexico, Germany - and a few other places. Now I'm in Vermont. People saying "if you don't like it, leave" doesn't cut it . . . because I love my family, and if I leave Vermont right now, I leave them.

So let me just say - I've skied professionally, full-time, all around the world, for 15 years now. And New England is not nearly as much fun as much of the rest of the world.

Thank you. Send hate mail to the editor. [img]smile.gif[/img]
Well, GravityGuru, I just can't have a lot of empathy for you! You see, I live in Ontario! Try that for a bit.

Keep skiing faster! :
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