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post #61 of 63
One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet- is it possible that her bindings are mounted to far rearward? I know that the whole Campbell Balancer concept is somewhat controversial, but she may be helped by moving the bindings a couple of cm forward. As a perennial backseat skier, that helped me.

I also have found that the concept of pulling the leading foot back has been of great help to me. It is much better to focus on a positive movement ("pull the inside foot back") rather than a negative one ("stay out of the back seat!"). Charlie MacArthur at last year's ESA had us think about making telemark turns- the inside foot gets pulled back through the turn. It not only gets you forward, but it also accentuates the carve of the turn.
post #62 of 63

I have to drop in on this one.

I Have to drop in on this one.

Agreed improved alignment is a critical link in the success chain but as far as mental ques, mental won't solve this one. You have to work on her functional balancing tension. When she can feel which muscles it takes she will be able to recreate it. You can help, You can teach her how to balance!

Step 1
on completly flat terrain
once mounted on skis position yourslef behind subject with your poles on the heel peice of the victem/subject.
push SLOWLY......
probably the hips will fall behind the skis accelerating SLOWLY!!

Step 2
repeat step one and inform person that they should do what ever it takes to not allow the skis to accelerate out from under their body.

Step 3
Help her understand that it is the ham string, glutes, and stomach muscles that make this happen. once she can do this, successfuly!!! she will have felt how much functional tension is needed to succed in the balance battle, and will be able to attack some green slopes to try to make this feeling come alive in every turn all the time and everywhere she goes.

spend time on this one and get her to be able to balance well through many attempts to upset her balance. If they succeed in the acceleration then work on the opposite of when you stop pushing encourage them not to fall over the front of the boot.

100% guarentee it will get almost anyone forward if they are in boots that are even close to working for them.
post #63 of 63
This is an interesting discussion for me because I've been fighting my way out of the back seat for a long time. Like Mrs (Ms? ) Vaskier, I have very very strong quads, so it's easy to rely on them too much.

The lifting-the-forefoot idea was introduced to me last January at ESA Utah, and it helped me tremendously. But what helped me even more was a boot alignment that Bud did there. I was really almost incapable of standing straight, and the problem was amplified by (boo!) heel lifts. There was a woman in my group at ESA Stowe that had a very similar problem -- her boots were pushing her much too far forward, and the result was skiing parked backward.

Bonni, I am *so* sorry I missed you. For some reason, I thought you were going to be at ESA with us. I was completely bagged, and just went to bed really early. Anyway, here's a "simple" (ha!) exercise that Robin did with us that I found really helpful for stance awareness.

On a nearly flat run (we were practising just in front of the lift line), snap out of one ski, and then without pushing off with the poles, but just by getting your weight forward, ski as far as you can on the other ski. Before we started the run, a partner would check our alignment -- were our hips in front of our knees? More often than not, they were not. Generally, you can't do this run on one ski unless you're balanced forward. This really heightens your awareness of where your hips are in relation to your feet. I know that after playing with this carefully for only 10 minutes that my hips weren't nearly as forward as they should be.

So, if my lesson from ESA Utah was "Stand UP!", the one I'm taking from Stowe is that I should choose for my hips to finish a run ahead of my feet. (Oh, and in case Robin is listening somewhere, also to keep all five fingers on my pole grip. Heh.)

One more comment about over-terraining: yes.

Here's a weird tip that worked for me (but mileage may vary). Stay on easier terrain for a while, but ski at all speeds. Ski slowly to feel where you're placed, but ski fast to try and mimic the physical forces that you'll feel on steeper terrain. I found it was a bit easier to transfer the feeling of skiing forward on steeper terrain by feeling what it was like while going faster. But I've by no means worked this out, so listen to the wiser voices, too.
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