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M1 SC/Turbo SC racing and Atua's

post #1 of 7
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I would like to know whether any of you tech people out there have any thoughts on slapping a pair of Marker M1 SC/Turbo SC Racing Titanium bindings and race plate on a pair of Atua's with the possible exception of replacing the brake with a 110 mm? I really can't afford both the ski and new bindings and these bindings are really top notch upward toe 15 din and turntable. Will the extra height from the plate help/ hinder. I expect the answer to that one is that it'll help on the groomers and hope the answer is won't be a factor in Montana powder. I cant tell whether the plate has movement or flex, ie piston type. Help.
post #2 of 7
A plate on such a wide ski will hinder. The ski is so wide the the carving advantage the plates give you on narrow skis dissappears. You will actually over-leverage the skis and edges. Go flat.
post #3 of 7
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Originally Posted by tuacaman View Post
with the possible exception of replacing the brake with a 110 mm?
I think you'll be stuck bending them. Good luck with that. Let us know if you need spare bits, there should be plenty floating around.

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I really can't afford both the ski and new bindings and these bindings are really top notch upward toe 15 din and turntable.
That TT is a bit of a PITA in pow esp when you get ice forming in it.

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I cant tell whether the plate has movement or flex, ie piston type. Help.
Yes, it does have flex. No piston. The flex is controlled by the lever at the toepiece. Looking down at the top of the ski with the tip facing away from you try
the left most (I) position for freest flex
middle (II) for some contact (resilient coupling)
right (III) for locked.

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Those are a lot of fun to take apart. I particularly like the little rubber slotted piece that helps set the heel/toe distance and can be engaged in different positions for a bit of exercise in modulus arithmetic
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My thoughts: I don't object to the plate per se. You will, however, have a hard time finding a shop that has this jig with wide feet. Then you're looking at bending the brakes. Unless you have pretty durn good shop skills and plan to do all the work yourself (paper jig? Lexan jig off the old holes?) to have the skis ready over the weekend, the shop only checking the binding release, I would suggest sitting on your hands until something cheap comes up on fleabay.
post #4 of 7
Thread Starter 
Thanks, I am convinced and have decided to bite the bullet. I've noticed that a similar issue exists with new bindings ie the Marker Comp free, Tyrolia Mojo 15 and Fischer X17 in that they all have optional pistons/plate systems. Would you also recommend forgoing that on these skis?
post #5 of 7
One of the better discussions on this topic is here:

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=18904
post #6 of 7
Mojo 15 and Fischer X17 are flat. Marker Comp 14.0 Free are really close to flat. All will work MUCH better than any selective control.

Marker still includes the MRR holes on their current jigs, mounting shouldn't be a problem (you can flip the jig to get the old toe pattern). I just wouldn't.
post #7 of 7
No one's mentioned the other issue about Marker Pistons - they stiffen and dampen the front of the ski more than the tail. Which may be a good thing on ice, but seems to be counterproductive on a fat ski designed to have balanced flex in soft snow. Why not choose a binding that allows flex without springs or pistons?
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