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Anyone think these are fake Arc'teryx?

Poll Results: Fake Arcteryx? Yes, no or don't know.

 
  • 72% (13)
    Yes.
  • 5% (1)
    No.
  • 22% (4)
    Don't know.
18 Total Votes  
post #1 of 23
Thread Starter 
Hi

I don't think I have ever seen an Arc'teryx Alpha SV Jacket with black zippers contrasting with the jacket color. Anyone else?

Ebay item.

Is this the new style? Or just a fake?

This is hardly scientific, so feel free to give any opinions. Thanks.



OR

post #2 of 23
Pictures on their website show no black zippers on the red or blue jackets.

http://www.arcteryx.com/product.aspx?Alpha-SV-Jacket#
post #3 of 23
They had been using an old fashioned zipper on the SV that received many complaints due to it not being waterproof. That pic showa the new style "waterproof" zippers. Maybe thay have improved the jacket.
post #4 of 23
The zipper material (very silky pastic) looks authentic, there are not too many other manufactures that process zippers like the ones pictured above (I sell arcteryx)
post #5 of 23
if it's only the colour of the zipper that you're worried about, i'll just offer this up. i bough a sidewinder sv this year at their factory outlet sale. the "defect" on mine was the "front zip shade colour". the front zip is black, like the ones in your pictures. honestly, i don't know if that makes a case either way. on the one hand, that means that they consider it a "defect", while on the other it could mean that they use them in some jackets. tough call.
post #6 of 23
They'll look into this, I'm sure of that.
post #7 of 23
Thread Starter 
Well, I was worried about zipper color because it was the only thing that did not look legit. Like the tip of the iceberg.

Supposedly the guy got them from distributor/closeout specialist - and will let me return it if I do not think its OK.

So it probably is a 'defect' without the warranty, etc....but that might be OK for just an at-area/around-town jacket. Not the backcountry trip jacket.

I have never been to the Arc'teryx outlet, but would love to go one time...on a trip to Whistler. Maybe after the season winds down prematurely in Telluride.
post #8 of 23
Thread Starter 
I called Arc'teryx.

They said they have seen very few all-out fakes for the the Alpha SV. However, the zippers should be came-colored.

They try to shut down Ebay power sellers. However, I mentioned they did not do a very good job considering many have sold 100s of items. A simple search during the winter months is not detective work.
post #9 of 23
THis is my first would anyone know if this is a fake arcteryx? http://s138.photobucket.com/albums/q273/redskins38/

any thoughts would be apperciated
post #10 of 23
If your buying this on ebay, the biggest factor is the sellers feedback and historical items sold. Make sure to click through their feedback and check each individual item sold too determine what they typically sell. The fakes coming out of china are very good these days, I would not buy from someone who is new or has not sold a few jackets already.
post #11 of 23
The seller i am looking at has never sold anything at all. Does the jacket look like the real deal or a fake?
post #12 of 23
Hi Telski,

Of course the official disclaimer belongs here....

ARC'TERYX can only guarantee the authenticity of ARC’TERYX products when purchased through an authorized dealer and/or distributor.

But looking at the pictures I would have to say that it is a fake. The Alpha SV would have bellows on the front pocket, and I can't see them there. The pictures are not of the best quality, so it is hard to be certain.
Redskins38 - I would say that the jacket that you are looking at is one of ours. If the pictures match the jacket, it is a real ARC'TERYX piece.

We do look through eBay regularly, and shut down any sales that are counterfeit. We don't shut down the user, but just end the sale of the item, there are only a few of us who do it, and there are pieces that we miss. Some like the one that Telski posted are hard to judge, and we have internal debates about the jacket. This one we think it is a fake but not 100% positive. We would have to see a better photo. But we have seen fake Alpha SV's with black zippers before. (We have one here at the moment) Counterfeit jackets are becoming more and more of an issue for us and we are trying to deal with them... but there are lots of issues.
A couple of things that I can tell you is that we do not sell any old stock to anyone who is not a dealer. If you can't find them listed on our website, they are not authorized to sell our product. The only place to buy seconds is out of our factory outlet that is in North Vancouver. We never sell these to stores, and there is no warranty on these items, and we can tell if the garment is a second or not.
I hope that helps a little.
Thank you to OldSchool for letting us know that this thread was here!

A
post #13 of 23
If they are seeing a few fakes now it means unfortunatly soon there will be lots.
post #14 of 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by arcteryx View Post
ARC'TERYX can only guarantee the authenticity of ARC’TERYX products when purchased through an authorized dealer and/or distributor.
Pretty much says it all right there folks....

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post #15 of 23
Thanks to Arcteryx for posting here. This forum gets a lot of exposure and has very high search scores. Your information will be useful to many members and others passing through. Hope you'll find some time to stop by again.
post #16 of 23
Nice to have an Arc'teryx rep visit.
post #17 of 23

Fakes to me +tips on buying

I looked at a lot of my old catalogs 2000-2003.
The ONLY hardshell/gore-tex jackets with zippers that aren't colour coordinated are blue tops. Mostly - the Beta AR. From the catalog pics they look black.
But ALL other jackets have matching zips. Even when the SV had a front zipper flap, the outer pockets were still coordinated (in all but the blue model)

I would ask for better pictures close up, and to see the inside pockets.
The look of the fabric/material is important too. For some reason the blue jacket seems too shiny?

But now....if I could only find the Yam alpha comp in small....
post #18 of 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by CanadaSteep View Post
But ALL other jackets have matching zips.
this is not always true. this year's orange and white alpha SV's have contrasting zippers: http://arcteryx.com/product.aspx?Alpha-SV-Jacket
post #19 of 23
^^This is true. So basically, do your hmwk

Generally you have a zipper that is near the same colour of the jacket (blends in) and on a few there's a colour matching zipper like on the mandarin there's an orangey zipper that matches. However, it's not black.
post #20 of 23
I see this is an old thread, but I have a related question. I am thinking about buying Arcteryx Sidwinder SV pants and I found an internett store that sels it in black with blue zippers (at least it looks like that on the picture). Also it looks like the innsteps are not reinforced like they are on the official arcteryx web site. On the other hand the price is normal, and they have all the usual arcteryx sizes (tall, regular, short etc). The reason I want to know this is because the blue zippers would be cool with my jacket, but I don't want to spend 400$ on a fake. Does anybody know if Arcteryx has made the Sidwinder pant with blue zippers?
post #21 of 23
 I bet Arcteryx knows. Call them. Also ask if that is one of their dealers.
post #22 of 23
My 2cents....this question comes up alot here....not for just Arcteryx or course but all name brands on Ebay.

First a little background on clothing manufacturing:  Most name brand ski clothes have a main factory in their country of origin...but just about all of them use "ghost factories" in places like China, Vietnam, etc etc.  Ghost factories are used in many industries, not just clothes and include industrial parts etc.

How do ghost factories work?  Effectivley ghost factories provide surplus capacity to the main factories when required.  For example Decent may for whatever reason hit the market one year with a great new jacket that everyone must have, they have orders for 3000 units, but can only produce 2200.  In comes the ghost factory to make the extra 800.

So what happens is, then Decent supplies the Ghost factory with the patterns, materials and everthing else they need to produce a quality genuine product. 

But here is the kicker, the ghost factory will always invariably end up with more material then they need to fill the order....as such they just keep making the stuff until they run out.  And somtimes they might run out of for example blue zippers, before they run out of blue material, so they use a black zipper...etc etc.

Then what happens is the ghost factory fills their order of 800 units to Decente and sells the extras out the back door on places like Ebay etc, at much better returns then they get filling the order...

So the moral is....the jacket may be a genuine as anything....but is not necessarily official.

For the record, one of my clients father's actually runs a ghost factory in Tiawan, so she explained to me how it all worked.  His factory reguarily makes stuff for Spyder, Decente and Bogner.....so no doubt Arctyrex does the same.....

Of course it could be a full on scam....but usually if the seller has a good rating, people are happy with the product so you can buy confidently, and usually the item is so much cheaper then retail you can put up with colurs not fully matching....if however you are paying full price....why risk it? go to a genuine retail store...
post #23 of 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by Biffen View Post

I see this is an old thread, but I have a related question. I am thinking about buying Arcteryx Sidwinder SV pants and I found an internett store that sels it in black with blue zippers (at least it looks like that on the picture). Also it looks like the innsteps are not reinforced like they are on the official arcteryx web site. On the other hand the price is normal, and they have all the usual arcteryx sizes (tall, regular, short etc). The reason I want to know this is because the blue zippers would be cool with my jacket, but I don't want to spend 400$ on a fake. Does anybody know if Arcteryx has made the Sidwinder pant with blue zippers?

$400 is retail for those pants. The simple way to ensure they're real is to go to an intertoob store beyond reproach, such as backcountry, or sierra trading post (and many others), or at full retail, look in your neighborhood brick and mortar store.

Or, of course, ask Arcteryx.

I have a good story on this. In Shanghai a couple of years ago, I went to one of the famous counterfeit malls, and found a nice Arcteryx 3 in 1 jacket (they don't make 3-in-1's). Also, it must have been a VERY special model, because it had "Summit Series" (North Face's high end collection logo) on it's sleeve.

The shopkeeper knew about the mistake but assured me it was legit. For $5  I could have it without the 2nd logo.
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