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post #31 of 41
Originally Posted by trekchick View Post
I've had a hard time using my poles and haven't really gotten the "pole plant" down since getting on modern skis.(8 years-ish)

Recently I dropped my pole size to 110 cm and am already feeling a difference in the ability to get forward and attempt pole plants.
BTW Fox, I have an extra pair of poles in a 115 cm I can bring to stowe if you want to try them.
I'll throw them in my ski bag just in case.
post #32 of 41
I have asked this question on pole lengths for year.

Most say the same thing. Turn the pole upside down, hold it under the basket and your forearm should be at 90 degrees to the floor

Now lets pick this apart.

different boots have different rise from the ground. Then we step into different skis that have diffent risers, binding heights etc.

Is one supposed to wear their boots and skis on hard ground or surface when doing this pole length test? if so then why the hell don't they just come up with a correct way standing in your skis and boots in the snow. I know ski shops don't have snow in them.

I have been experimenting with rental poles from the local hill. I find sadly that each pair of skis I have like a different pole length because they each have a different rise off the snow, plus the length of each ski is slightly different and I find this also makes a differance to my choice.. So I picked a pole length in the middle.

I also beleive that every person has a slightly different stance and each pair of ski boots have a differnt forward lean angle, some people have a longer upper body, some have a shorter lower body. So one simple method cannot determine pole length for all.

My advice go shoot the local hill rental guy $5 and tell him you are going to be comming and going with different pole lengths for the day. By the end of the day you will find a length that feels right and presto problem solved.
post #33 of 41
I bought adjustable poles this year. Most of the time I like a long pole, but if I'm skiing a lot of bumps, I prefer to go shorter. Hopefully, the new poles prove to be durable enough to be the perfect solution.
post #34 of 41
Originally Posted by Wear The Fox Hat View Post
just under 6ft.
I'm 1.85m and skiing 130cm poles (2 different models from Scott, same grip). My feelings are different during skiing (the lenght seems to be just OK on groomers) and during moving around on skis while skating, waiting in lift line, going bar (poles seems to be at least 5cm shorter than ideal).

Before buying new poles, I would definitely try differnet lenghts bellow and above 130 just to feel the differnece.

One point - though both sets of poles are from Scott and having same grip, they feel very different. The reason is weight - one model is composite and the other rather massive aluminium.
post #35 of 41
Originally Posted by Latchigo View Post
...However, that would mean me and Fox should be on even longer poles if the arm parallel to the ground still holds true.
Something about the new technique (more inclination?) seems to encourage the use of shorter poles. In my case, increased boot sole thickness and lifted bindings may have forestalled a desire to go shorter. When I started we selected poles that measured up to our armpits.
post #36 of 41
Originally Posted by Marmot mb View Post
....Is one supposed to wear their boots and skis on hard ground or surface when doing this pole length test?...
My preferred length measures correctly when I'm wearing shoes. I just realized/noticed that my adjustable poles are set an inch too long because I sized them while wearing ski boots. I did not notice the difference on the hill.

It's just a rule of thumb though, a reasonable starting point, that few skiers will ever need to deviate from. Maybe subtract an inch for a modern 'rule of thumb' starting point (new standard), or should beginners start with slightly longer poles (old standard)?
post #37 of 41
The "right angle" rule (should be wearing boots or serious heels) works better than the height rule cuz we all come with different length arms relative to our height.

Have a friend measure you, arm hanging and fingers extended, from tip of middle finger to shelf that your delt attaches to. About 78 cm is average for males 5'10". My arms (also 78 cm) are a touch short for my height (6'), so I use a 50" pole, but it skis about like a 48" for the average 6 footer.
post #38 of 41
WTFH: I don't really use my poles much, but a couple of people, after watching a video of me, were wondering if my poles were too long.

Why not improve your pole action and stick with the length that is right for you. Cutting them shorter so that they are "out of the way" is not a great solution IMHO. I am 5'6" and have 120cm poles. A little long for bumps, but fine on groomed and great when conditions get ugly.
post #39 of 41
Bumpity... Bump...

Ok... I do not see many technical reasons for pole length here. Please correct me if I am wrong.
  1. Between boot height and riser plates on more modern skis, the 90 degree test may be out the window. If anything opposite of old methodology if there was a clear methodology.
  2. Having a shorter pole (seriously) will allow you to:
    1. Reach more into the start of your turn
    2. Pole more effectively when you are flatfooting it?
    3. Drag less when you are dropping into a deep turn or carve
  3. A longer pole seems to:
    1. Place further away in order to clear the ski
    2. Seems like I think more about the plant
I am an instructor and spend many a weekend now sans poles (with kids). I am questioning my need for them outside of the reasons listed above. So why have long ones and not short ones?

It seems that with longer & heavier poles, I become more relaxed with them and my hands drop to my sides more often. Hence the poster says that he does not really use his poles. Too heavy (for all day usage) or too long (no reason to plant)? Placing my hands out more aggressively, allows me to become more centered over my skis, then grants more effective turns. So my theory is to go with lighter shorter poles. Can anybody counter this reasoning?

post #40 of 41
Didn't read what anybody else said.

IMO you want short poles. Do the upside down thing and make sure your hand and fore arm tilt down about an inch from being level. Start there.

I shorten mine 10 years ago. Makes it much easier to get forward on the skis.

Learn how to use them, it well take you to the next level in skiing.
post #41 of 41
Psst. This is kinda the joke thread.

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Originally Posted by vail snopro View Post
First of all, the old "rule of thumb" hasn't been used by elite racers in years! It's much more accurate to measure the distance from the floor, while wearing boots, to the bottom of the Xyphoid Process, then subtracting 1 ". This gives you the ball park measurement, then you fine tune by preference from there.

I am 6'2", and use 50 3/4" for SL, and uncut 54" for GS.
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