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post #1 of 25
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Please give me some feedback to improve. The video quality isn't that good please forgive. But I'm trying to become an expert skier! This was taped last year during vacation in Lake Tahoe. But what can i do to become a great skier. I have no problem skiing any terrain as I skied every Black diamond I could out west. I even skied the crazy Chutes at MT. ROSE NV, no problem. Just looking for some tips, tell me what you think?


post #2 of 25
The first vid is too rough to see much. The second vid looks like you're sitting back on your heels. Your feet get very close together during the turn which greatly limits your ability to put the skis on edge, but OK width when you're cruising straight.

You need to find a ski technique and develop your technique with it. I'm a proponent of Harald Harb's PMTS. Look at his Anyone Can Be An Expert Skier II or his new Essentials of Skiing at Amazon or elsewhere. You local public library might be able to get the first book I listed, maybe an interlibrary loan.

post #3 of 25
Originally Posted by skibum#1 View Post
Please give me some feedback to improve. The video quality isn't that good please forgive. But I'm trying to become an expert skier! This was taped last year during vacation in Lake Tahoe. But what can i do to become a great skier. I have no problem skiing any terrain as I skied every Black diamond I could out west. I even skied the crazy Chutes at MT. ROSE NV, no problem. Just looking for some tips, tell me what you think?
Two questions, skibum#1:
  1. What are your objectives for your skiing? In other words, where do you want to take it? Do you have any particular aspects of it that you'd like to change? Why are you asking for input?
  2. What was your plan for your skiing in these videos and on "every black diamond"? Do you have an approach for your skiing, or do you just "go" and see what happens? What do you want to demonstrate in these videos?
With a bit more insight into what you're trying to do, we may be able to give you a few things to consider. Without knowing what you hope to gain from feedback, I think it's unwise to make any observations or recommendations at all.
post #4 of 25
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Ken thank you for the tip. The one lesson I took years ago the instructor told me to lean more forward and thus I would become a much better skier. This year I have been three times and always try to lean more forward and spread the width of my skis. The results have been tremendous and more effortless turns. Sometimes though I want to lean back and not forward when the terrain gets tough. I can handle it well but would like to be able to ski all day and have a better stance. I also have been trying to focus on keeping my hands in front of me like i'm driving as I pole plant. Any suggestions on how to be over the top of my skis so i'm not leaning back? Thanks for the feedback and Cheers!

My objectives for skiing is to take it to the next level. Have a better stance and be able to ski any terrain any time. I went 50 times last year and it took a great deal of dedication to get better. Would just like some outside advice on how lean forward and put pressure on the tougnes of my boots. I don't want to demonstrate anything I just want good advice on how to improve that's all. These were simply vacation videos from last year and I want to ski more faster better than last. And I did just go and see what happens as these were vacation videos. I'm not trying to teach anyone anything just some tips would help that's all. As what so i hope to gain from feedbac is take the knowledge then apply it to the hill. Maybe one day become a ski instructor who knows, I'm only 28 and hopefully next year when I move to California to go to grad school I want to rip it up and maybe become a ski instuctor. Thank you SSH for your feedback! CHEERS
post #5 of 25
So, a couple of things to consider...

First, the fit and alignment of your boots is the foundation for everything in skiing. From looking at those videos, my guess is that your boots are likely too big and the stance is off. The flex may also be a challenge for you, but I can't be sure of that.

Second, you might want to then look at the balance point on the skis and make sure that they are mounted in the correct place. It looks to me like they might be mounted a bit behind where you might want them.

Your goal is to have your lower legs be approximately parallel to your torso as you're flexing. From the video, I would guess that your torso is virtually always more forward than your lower legs.

In short, I think you need to get the equipment fixed before you try to do anything else. If you're back in Tahoe, look up our friend and fellow Bear Bud Heishman (he's in Reno). If you're in Colorado, look up Jeff Bergeron in Breck. Others on here will have recommendations for the East Coast, and you can also find them on the bootfitter list in the Gear forum.

My perspective is that it doesn't make sense to create technique fixes for equipment issues. Fix the gear first, then take up the technique.
post #6 of 25
I see Ssh beat me to it! SB1 you have great potential but your equipment looks like needs alignment as ssh stated. Your skiing will take a huge leap when you get it right!

Check out PJ Dewey on the East Coast at "racestocksports"! Or come West again and let's go skiing and I will Pimp your ride!

post #7 of 25

April in Winter

You will go far in life

lean forward
feet together
hands out in front

and grad school to look forward in the new year

Mt Rose rocks
post #8 of 25
So I thought MA was supposed to start with the positive aspects of someone's skiing, not just jump into negatives!

I don't do MA, but I will say you ski well. Comments on your form are of course useful, but I'd like to hear some of the positives from the experts on the site, because I certainly see many.
post #9 of 25
Ok since nobody has mentioned it yet I will chime in here. First of all I am not an instructor. I am going to assume you want to be able to ski anywhere on the mountain and are not interested in racing.

Above posts have said lean forward. Always good advice . You can never be too far forward in most cases. But there is a difference here. GET FORWARD AND DON"T BEND SO MUCH AT THE WAIST. I see you get forward by bending at the waist and your head comes down. If you do this anymore your head will be down by your knees when you make a turn. Obviously we haven't seen too many skiers with their heads at knee level.

Ok so how do we get forward without bringing our head down as much. It starts at the feet. It always starts at the feet. Not the head. The objective is to get you HIPS FORWARD over the top of your toes. Practice this by walking around on flat ground every time you get off the chair lift. How do you get your hips forward. Well you go to your feet and bend the ankles and then bend the zee knees. Your big bone below your knee (Tibia) should ALWAYS be pushing on the front of your boot and your hips should be over your toes. From your video your not even close to having the front of your tibia push on the tong front part of your boot. While your skiing think about the tibia pushing on the front of the boot and keep doing it ALL the time by bending the ankles. You may need new boots or get some heel lifts to get a better stance. Consider going to a good boot fitter.

Keep your head up, look way down the hill, and bend slightly at the waist. For you I might even tell you to stand tall once you get those hips over your toes. Obviously racers or carvers want to bend more at the waist. As was mentioned above it depends on what you want to accomplish here.

Your hands your hands. Where should your hands be. Hands are ALWAYS up like your reading a newspaper. Don't be dropping your hands below your hip and in back of you.

Have fun and smile
post #10 of 25
My .02. Try riding all of your ski (tip to tail) through the turn. Looked like you were skiing your tails and rushed through the turn. You are athletic and have good balance. That's my take.
post #11 of 25
Not so much lean forward, but get your weight forward. Your upper body gets hunched over, you van get your weight forward by moving your mass ahead by bringing your "butt" forward. Quiet your hands also, you have a lot of movement with them and they are getting you back some with the pole plants. Keep your hands in your perifrial vision.
post #12 of 25
Enjoyed the vid --wish i was out there with you !You are athletic and seem to be in reasonably good shape . Man you luv riding those tails too

The advice given about moving forward without putting your head on your knees is well taken . Also hands need to be up & fwd and at least in your vision . Keep the shins against that boot tongue .

Boy it looks like your ride DOES need to be PIMPED tho

That said welcome to epic --have fun and thanx for sharing it with a guy sitting here in the SNOWLESS EAST
post #13 of 25
Hello, enjoyed the critique by others and just wanted to compliment the photographer. Even tho the video jumped a bit and the skier was out of the frame at times, I applaud the skill of the photographer who not only was skiing but taking some pretty helpful shots. Now if he/she could just ski backwards in front of you at times the whole thing would come together. Good luck on your skiing developement. Bud is an excelent choice if you get the chance!
post #14 of 25
skibum, next time you're out with your vid cam, try to get some footage where your buddy skis down below you, stops, turns around and stays there and films you coming down the mountain. Also some side angles would be good. The stuff where he's following you are fun, but difficult to do a good MA and really get to the bottom of your strengths and weaknesses.
post #15 of 25
Well, thats some pretty nice skiing to start with. It looks best in the sections where you've got some open space to link turns a little more consistently.
It is a little tough to get a solid diagnosis if you can't watch more than a couple turns in a row, so I'd definitely suggest next time you're out videoing, find a good pitch where you can get a lot of turns in view of the camera, and have your friend stand at the bottom and film you from a fixed point - makes for a much better video to watch from an instruction standpoint.

The one thing that really stands out to me is the lack of ankle motion. If your ankle isn't moving along with your other joints (hip/waist and knee), you can be doing everything right, but still end up with your weight back, and that can throw everything else off very easily.

If you look at this crude diagram I've just made, you can see that in the first case, the shoulders and knees aren't lined up overtop of the toes, and hence the skier's weight is to the back. In the second picture, he has the exact same angles at his knees and waist as in the first pic, but there's more bend in the ankle, and that re-aligns the rest of his body in a nicely centered position.

I would recommend getting your boots looked at by a good boot fitter. From the video it looks like they're probably too big, or at leats poorly fitted, which is a surefire way to make it very difficult for you to make the proper movements, especially in terms of flexing your ankle.

After that, there are plenty of good exercises for getting ankle motion into your skiing. An easy one is to stand nice and tall and open your ankle up at the start of your turn, then as the turn goes, flex down, trying to keep your toes, knees and shoulders all aligned like in the second diagram. It's hard to tell if you're getting it right, so a short lesson would probably help a lot, and the instructor can give you some extra drills to work on.
post #16 of 25
Videographer was a snowboarder, no?
post #17 of 25
Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
you can get your weight forward by moving your mass ahead by bringing your "butt" forward.
and by bringing your heals back.

I like to stand tall, but that may be a style thing.

When watching your vid you can see that the forward section of the skis is not in the game. You need to be more centered. Try drawing your heals back. It has helped me. Becareful about the amount of pressure you place on the boot...shin to boot. A soft touch is best.

And I too would like to emphasize equipment. Your boots really do seem to be a problem. If they are too big or don't fit, you will be held back, limited, and life is too short.

I would like to suggest Green Mountain Orthodics. In Albany try High Adventure, but GMOL is a strong shop. If you go to High Adventure tell them 'Buzz' sent you. PM me if you would like more info.
post #18 of 25
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Thank you for all the tips and kind words. Yes that was a snowboarder taping me skiing. He is my best friend who I ride with all the time. I use to board but prefer skiing! I grew up skiing at the age of three and have always loved it. Really glad I found this place you guys are really awesome thank you again! Plus Bud if I get out West this spring break I'll look you up and we can rip some trails together. I'll post more vids in the future from different angles etc. Look forward to hearing more tips and suggestions though. All I want for christmas is a new pair of boots and a good bootfitter! But until then I have to ride the old boots. My skis are Atomic SX=10's and I think that they come with the bindings already mounted. Not sure how to move Neox bindings. How should I tune up my old boots? Thanks again your local unemployed college student! Cheers!
post #19 of 25
I see lots of technigue advice here but as you probably already realize, if your equipment is set up improperly you can not physically get forward or stay centered, or flex your ankles, etc.... The fact is your first task is to change your alignment in the fore/aft plane.

You do not need new equipment to ski better. Your bindings are one of the flatest on the market, meaning the difference in thickness of where your boot toe rests and the thickness where your heel rests is almost flat, creating a very flat delta angle. This is amplified if you have a long boot sole. Two quick experiments that will move you in the right direction....

1)break a popsicle stick in two and put one piece between the heel of each boot and your binding.

2)place a 1/4- 3/8" heel lift between the liner of your boot and the shell (tape it down with double stick carpet tape). If you can't find a heel lift wedge simply fold up some knapkins or something to build up under your heel and then go skiing and see what happens.

note: if your boot is too big you may be loosing alot of control there too. To check, pull your liners out and place your foot in the shell and slide your foot forward till your toes touch the front then look behind your heels. If you see more and 3/4" space, your boots are too big.

Just doing the above should make a noticable improvement in your ability to get more centered. good luck.

post #20 of 25
Hey ski bum#1

I'm riding SX 10's too

Spent alot of time with a bootfitter and was knocked down one whole size from my previous Langes.

Hey good luck @ school -- study hard & ski like a banshee
post #21 of 25
Thread Starter 
you guys are awesome thank you sooo much! Went skiing today with my fatherat jiminy peark and all of your tips really helped out. My father coulsd even tell that my technique looked alot better. Plus I'm noticing now that I don't have as much lower back pains. Probably from leaning back too much. Hopefully I can convince my father to spring for a new pair of boots. My father couldn't belive the poor snoow conditions in the east compared to out west. Night and day comparison. I really hope we get dumped on like out west. Hope i don't have to travel back home to get some decent snow this seadon! global warming is really to blame.
post #22 of 25
tell your father that today was a powder day at Jiminy. They had about 2" of fresh.
post #23 of 25
SB1, great little film you have for us to watch. Especially the first one is quite exiting and the cameraman is doing a good job considering the circumstances.

Good advise so far: get out of the back seat. Same advice can be passed to Bode as well so dont take it too personally. Its technique and its equipment but since you can alredy ski any black diamond (same as Bode) out west you need to take a few steps back and start working on basic technique and buy new boots. Take a few lessons, learn proper turning technique so that you not only can ski black diamonds but also any terrain out there. If you want to become a ski teacher you deffinetly need to work on the basic fundamentals. Starting with wedging. Thats what we all had to do in order advance both in skills and in our ski instructor carriere.
post #24 of 25
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I will try to make more videos after finals are over for you guys :
post #25 of 25
You are a strong skier with good athleticism which is a great building block. As others have commented you may have some boot issues. It looked to me like you are twisting - pivoting your skis more than you are putting them on edge and making more of a carved arc. The fact you enjoy skiing on more challenging terrain is probably taking priority over practicing your turns on less challenging terrain and developing more effective movement patterns. I'd like to see you spend some time on less challenging runs working on making solid arc to arc turns with a minimum of slippage in between. Less pushing of the tails sideways in the turns and more separation of the upper and lower body using the sidecut of the ski to turn. Edge it and weight it and ride it around the circumference that the ski's sidecut will make for you.
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