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post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 
I honestly can't believe what is happening out there , in the first two days at Fernie this past week I was hit from behind two times within an hour while standing still by snowboarders (both who by the way will be fearing anybody that resembles me for sometime ,a controlled rant with a bit of physical contact can do wonders if applied properly). Along with that we watched a group of young couldn't give care skiers go directly towards a cliff that is well signed for all to see after being warned off by all around including patrols to turn off to which they responded with a flip of the bird plus a few choice words , the result being two of the idiots hanging in trees on the edge and having to be helped back by those of us above , they actually thought it was funny. Thirdly while in liftlines we had to deal with cue crashers like I've never seen at Fernie and a group of "yes boarders" smoking a doob in the middle of the crowd that included young kids , and when asked to snuff it they had the nerve to tell all the frigin skiers where to go. Then to top it off my 12 yr old daughter has her ski tips ran over by a skier overtaking her while shes in the middle of a turn and his excuse is "she shouldn't be up here anyway", and lastly my 11 yr old daughter gets ran into in the lift line by a boarder that though he had enough room to stop. (he now has a new respect for fathers of young girls that get ran into ).
It honestly couldn't have gotten much worse , could have something to do with the record setting crowds I guess but it boils down to no respect and lack of experience on the slopes.
There ,now I've had my little rant...........

[ February 20, 2004, 01:42 PM: Message edited by: Leeroy ]
post #2 of 26
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Originally posted by Leeroy:
I honestly can't believe what is happening out there , in the first two days at Fernie this past week I was hit from behind two times within an hour while standing still by snowboarders (both who by the way will be fearing anybody that resembles me for sometime ,a controlled rant with a bit of physical contact can do wonders if applied properly). .
TEACH US! OH, TEACH US, MASTER, FOR WE ARE IN GREAT NEED!
post #3 of 26
That sucks...but what's a yes boarder?
post #4 of 26
The best thing you can do is fins the e-mail of the Fernie GM.
Have you checked their site for info?

If this is not an exageration on your part, it points to some serious problems for the resort. Fernie is always a crap shoot weather wise, and fairly hard to get to. The least they can do is empower their patrol to pull tickets and Call the RCMP when needed...

Let us know if/how resort management responds to you and do certainly mention the number of ski forums you frequent on the web...

It's a great place to ski, so its to bad you ran into so many idiots (or vice-versa).

TS
post #5 of 26
Cattleprod/skipoles.
post #6 of 26
I would start carrying a 12 guage loaded with bean bags like they use for riot control...

I think word would get around mighty fast...
post #7 of 26
Thread Starter 
TreepickerSue , actually I've been skiing Fernie for better than 25 years and most years 25 plus days and this rarely happens to us there , thats why I spoke my mind on this issue. Ironically we have had problems like this on this week for the last 3 years .( Alberta's family day week which is the same as presidents day I believe) Turns out we wern't the only ones with problems ,the patrols were very busy due to the number of people there .
And yes Sue the patrols will yank tickets if need be and I know the RCMP do frequent the slopes in Canada and will act if needed but these people can't be everywhere , like I said before it boils down to respect for others and enough experience to know when your a danger to others as well as yourself.

[ February 20, 2004, 04:51 PM: Message edited by: Leeroy ]
post #8 of 26
Freakin kids these days.

I've heared those folks from Alberta are ill-mannered lot.

Seems like snow boarding is the beginning of total social collapse or maybe armagedon.
post #9 of 26
Oh man! It's a good thing I was not there. If I had seen one of those morons hit one of your beautiful little girls, they would have ended up with a ski pole where the sun don't shine! :

Quite honestly, that was the only thing I did not like about Fernie. The boarders seem like they are imported from Killington!
I have not seen that in other Canadian resorts.

Bring the girls to Kicking Horse next year. I'll show them my technique for making a boarder, or anyone who hits you, go down really hard, while you remain standing.

BTW, Mrs. SkiCrazy withessed it at Fernie!
post #10 of 26
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Originally posted by Leeroy:
Then to top it off my 12 yr old daughter has her ski tips ran over by a skier overtaking her while shes in the middle of a turn
I trust this one didn't need Dad's intervention and the said boarder is still stinging from the '12 year old girl' beating that I'm sure he took.
post #11 of 26
Thread Starter 
Actually L7 your on the money about that ,she done her daddy proud . He did stick around and give a reason although a very lame one and apologized to her ,I guess he thought he gave her more room and it turns out she scared the crap out of him when she hit that high note of hers , at least she wasn't hurt. That one was definitely lack of experience he was all over the run.
It was just one of those days , but the beer still taste great later.
post #12 of 26
Thread Starter 
Lisamarie the girls think it's awsome you guys are coming back up here , they had a blast when you guys were at Fernie. For sure next year we'll make it , and whats this do I understand you actually might have fallen this year?
post #13 of 26
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Originally posted by Lisamarie:
Bring the girls to Kicking Horse next year. I'll show them my technique for making a boarder, or anyone who hits you, go down really hard, while you remain standing.
Note to self: steer clear of LM. Real clear!
post #14 of 26
Leeroy,

It's too bad you did not have a video camera (I'm assuming).
Maybe you coulda sold it to TGR for a film featuring idiots on snow--it would especially work for the guys who went off the cliff.
post #15 of 26
I learned my lesson about skiing during president's week LAST year in Switzerland.

From now on, it's Caribbean or "other" than ski trips during Feb. break.
post #16 of 26
I was teaching a private on the easy hill today when a loose snowboard came hurtling down from a steep bit up above. I skiied after it to head it off, but unfortunately I was wearing Marker bindings, so when I blocked it, the damn things released and I went flying. And the board started off down the hill again. How many hurtling snowboards do we see every season I wonder?
post #17 of 26
Leeroy.

I think the 12 guage shot gun sugggestion is a little dangerous. To carry a loaded and even an unloaded 12 guage gun, is awkard at best.

So I would sugggest a paint ball pistol. In that way you can nail the _ucker as he or she tries to run away and you would have a very specific and special descritption so the ski patrol can nail him or her and you can press charges.

Just make sure that the paint ball gun is not considered a weapon in the jurisdiction in which you are skiing, or else you also may be subject to prosecution.

Good luck and hopefully nothing else terrible will happen on the slopes to you and your family in the future.
post #18 of 26
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Originally posted by Leeroy:
I honestly can't believe what is happening out there , in the first two days at Fernie this past week I was hit from behind two times within an hour while standing still by snowboarders ...
My sympathies. I like Glen Plake's answer, in one of the Warren Miller movies, to the question, "If you could do anything to change skiing, what would it be?" "Make it the way it was before snowboarding."

There is a problem with some boarders, and skiers too. But this weekend I was off in one of the chutes below the Cirque. There were two boarders there and myself. After having ridden that fine snow, we all looked at each other and let out a good whoop. These dudes had it all together. So not all are rotten, but the city folk tend to take their frustrations onto the slopes with them. Some kids have some sort of problem. It's too bad. When I started skiing, there was a lot of commeraderie. You just left your gear in the lodge, no problem. After skiiing there was lots of great conversation with strangers (well, not really strangers!) about the day. But I can see the eyes rolling : ; "that's stoopid d00d!"

Something is happening, and I am not sure what it is. The boarders that ran into you were irresponsible, and you can trace that to the way they are growing up, definitely. Not all are that socially deviant, but more show up nowadays. I guess the difference is, when I am having a good time, I am inclusive : The boarders in that chute shared with me what a great moment that was. But it seems that some in this society (not just boarders) are exclusive ; they get what they can to the exclusion of others. You were in their way. Why should they politely apologize? Their parents never made them aware of that.

A few years ago I was at Stratton. There was four feet of new snow, the sun was out; it was a wonderful day. In the lodge for lunch we got to hear a father tell his teenage son, "You don't know how tough it is when you earn a half million dollars a year." Don't you think that adds tensions and frustrations to that kid's life? I would assume he was there to have a good time skiing, not for the financial advice. He'll run into you without apologizing.

[ February 22, 2004, 10:39 PM: Message edited by: Charlie Crabb ]
post #19 of 26
Hehehe... Long ago I did something that would make LM proud.

Some young punks came off the lift behind me flying (mind you at Bittersweet the lift drop is very small and a veritical drop is right infont of you).
I had people falling in front of me(newbies that shouldn't be there) and my husband I was making sure he stayed up himself. They were soo busy tring to pop each other's bindings off they almost took me out.
Once I was free of my husband I chased them A.S.S.H O's Down and caught them both... There ears were on fire. :

Heheh... for the rest of the day they didn't jerk around like that. Plus they didn't think I could ski.

In fact the one help my husband ski better.
post #20 of 26
ahhh bittersweet. My wife and I used to live in Valpo and patrolled at Bittersweet. That patrol was pretty strong with crowd control (taking tickets). On that hill you really have to be as it can get a little nutty when the bus loads show. The word mayhem comes to mind.

I was happy to trade beatiful Mt landfill for Mt Hood ... miss the patrollers though. That was a really good bunch of people!
post #21 of 26
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Originally posted by Brokedown Palace:
was there a maggot convention that day?
Whats your point?
post #22 of 26
Bring back spanking and/or the belt! No more frickin' timeouts. Parents, hit your kids, they'll thank you for it later.
post #23 of 26
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Originally posted by fiddler:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Brokedown Palace:
was there a maggot convention that day?
Whats your point? </font>[/quote]A troll who has never skied with any of the maggots, no doubt.
post #24 of 26
I want to add an electrical array to the inside of my ski pole with a trigger on top of the grip. Then, simply depress the trigger, and apply it to the posterior of the offending snowrider.
post #25 of 26
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Originally posted by Mal@hood:
ahhh bittersweet. My wife and I used to live in Valpo and patrolled at Bittersweet. That patrol was pretty strong with crowd control (taking tickets). On that hill you really have to be as it can get a little nutty when the bus loads show. The word mayhem comes to mind.

I was happy to trade beatiful Mt landfill for Mt Hood ... miss the patrollers though. That was a really good bunch of people!
Then you know which chairlift I am talking about. You get off the lift and have to make a sharp left or right turn or its the weak looking Orange thing that is to keep you from slidding down that straight drop. :
post #26 of 26
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Originally posted by Zacman1987:
I want to add an electrical array to the inside of my ski pole with a trigger on top of the grip. Then, simply depress the trigger, and apply it to the posterior of the offending snowrider.
Ah Zacman1987....you closet 007 [img]tongue.gif[/img] ......

A stungun would be fine [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img] , particularly down towards the lifting areas.
Actually....I've seen a few almost_collisions in lift-loading areas...in person.
Just simple waist-high safety fences can do a lot towards breaking out-of-control momentum.

[ February 28, 2004, 09:06 AM: Message edited by: HaveSkisWillClimb ]
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