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I felt so outnumbered but loved it anyway!

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
So I spent 3 days on Bear mountain this past weekend. It's been around 10 years since I last visited that spot. Last time I was there 10 years ago there were snowboarders and skiers. There were way more skiers than snowboarders for sure. Now fast forward 10 years and here I am. For every one skier there are 20+ snowboarders. Skiers were so far and few apart that when i saw one I got a special feeling in my stomach, you know the kind of feeling you get when you drive into your home town after being away for so long.

I have to admit I received no guff from any snowboarders. In fact they pretty much ignored me completely. even getting on the quad lift they would let me have a chair all to myself. Hell I would even line up with 3 of them at the chair to get on to have them stop and wait so I could have the chair all to myself. This is good I guess considering I could now stretch out and sing along to my music via my mp3 player. They might not enjoy my poor singing.

Only a handful of snowboarders rode the lift with me and of those only several spoke to me. One offered me a puff off his joint and a swig off his 40oz lol (which I turned down) and another stated that I was "Old School" when he saw I had skis. I think he said, "Whoa that dudes got skis, he's old school." followed by him and his pals laughing. I laughed to and that was that.

I went skiing alone and I have to say if it wasn't for my ipod I would have been lonely. Atleast i wasn't on the receiving end of any snowboarders "hate for the skiers" that we hear about often.

My only real complaint against snowboarders is how they all like to sit on their butts in the middle of the trail. Every where I looked I would see snowboarders just sitting. It made it interesting skiing down the trails for sure. I would have prefered to see them sit towards the sides, (which is what I do if I want to stop) but I was skiing in the freestyle park so I shouldn't complain.

All in all it was a better experience than I expected. I hope each weekend visit to the mountain is the same.
post #2 of 13
I am assuming you are refering to Bear Mountain in Big Bear, CA. Maybe it's an LA thing, but I am seeing more and more twin tipers as opposed to boarders arond here (Rockies). Yes there are still plenty of boarders, and I'd wager that plenty new ones start up every year, but the word I'm hearing is that the really cool kids are going with twin tips, and that seems to be the case around here. Just my observation.

Powdr
post #3 of 13
Thread Starter 
Yes; Bear Mountain Resorts, Big Bear City, CA.

I saw several twin-tips over the weekend, thinking back I counted 5 give or take. I also counted about 10 other skiers through out the weekend. There were an unlimited amount of snowboarders though. I kid you not, atleast 20:1 ratio. Of course I'm guessing here because I didn't actually count but I wouldn't be shocked if i was darn close.
post #4 of 13
ya at home here at stevens pass, on weekdays it is easily 15-25:1 ratio of boarders to skiers, thats okay with me most of my friends board and at my age I cant even remember the days when boarders and skiers were at odds. Guess im just young but to me it has never been an issue.
post #5 of 13
PhilT!

You've got a doppleganger on Epic (unless you're posting under two different psuedonyms!)

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=48153

Same ski.
Same # of days a year on the slopes
Same PNW locale.

hmmm.


I, too, have pretty much come to grips with the boarders vs. skiers thing. most of my buddies board or tele, so I'm kind of at odds unless I spend a day with my pops (but then I'm on blacks and he's on greens/easy blues since he's in his '70s). that said, we definitely have mountains in Tahoe that seem to attrack more boarders than 2 plankers (I'd say Sugarbowl and Sierra). I've never noticed the boarders "dissing" skiers on the chairs though. Most folks in Tahoe are so stoked to get back on the lift and hit another run that they don't let chairs go by empty or with a single skier.
post #6 of 13
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Originally Posted by dookey67 View Post
PhilT!

You've got a doppleganger on Epic (unless you're posting under two different psuedonyms!)

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=48153

Same ski.
Same # of days a year on the slopes
Same PNW locale.

hmmm.


I, too, have pretty much come to grips with the boarders vs. skiers thing. most of my buddies board or tele, so I'm kind of at odds unless I spend a day with my pops (but then I'm on blacks and he's on greens/easy blues since he's in his '70s). that said, we definitely have mountains in Tahoe that seem to attrack more boarders than 2 plankers (I'd say Sugarbowl and Sierra). I've never noticed the boarders "dissing" skiers on the chairs though. Most folks in Tahoe are so stoked to get back on the lift and hit another run that they don't let chairs go by empty or with a single skier.
WOW crazy. Not me though, he is 10lbs lighter and 4" shorter. Plus I ski on the 189 squads not the 184's But still weird
post #7 of 13
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Originally Posted by PhilT View Post
ya at home here at stevens pass, on weekdays it is easily 15-25:1 ratio of boarders to skiers, thats okay with me most of my friends board and at my age I cant even remember the days when boarders and skiers were at odds. Guess im just young but to me it has never been an issue.
I have to disagree with you. I typically ski Stevens a couple weekdays each week and I doubt the ratio is even 2 or 3 to 1 in either direction. I usually see a pretty good mix. FWIW - my group on Friday was 2 skiers and 2 boarders...

I do agree with you though -- the ski vs board thing seems less of an issue at Stevens and other PNW hills than some other places. Except on Jan/Feb overcrowded weekends, I find people of all sliding persuasions to be pretty mellow and usually good company on the mountain. I'll take it...

Also, quite a few boarders are riding fat twins around the mountain. Some even without poles :
post #8 of 13
OMG NO POLES what will they think of next. I am just going with my experience from tues. but schools were out everywhere (which is why i could go) which may have brought the boarders who were young and unexperienced enough flying up the icy roads to go riding.
post #9 of 13
Could be. My kids and spouse were at Stevens on Wed -- loving that school snow day too It was way cold that day & there were few skiers or boarders...

I was up there Thurs and Fri and the "crowd" was pretty balanced and friendly both days.
post #10 of 13
Classic Bear Mountain (it was my home hill for the last 7 seasons).

I love the fact that no one will ride the lift with people they don't know. Even if the lift line is 20 minutes long, they will still let a quad go up with one person, just to avoid riding with a stranger. The pot smoking is also funny. The best is when people are smoking up on our beginner chair. I can't possibly imagine what they're thinking. They aren't good enough to make a turn sober, so they think that riding stoned will help? Not to mention the fact that they are surrounded by families and little kids.

The ratio gets better on busy weekends, but I doubt there's ever more than about 20% skiers on the hill. There are a couple of local kids who rip on twintips, but the shift back to skiing has been really slow in the SoCal market.
post #11 of 13
Amazing. I have never skied anywhere where there wasn't a big majority of skiers. But I have only skied Europe (and Whistler).
post #12 of 13
I live in Vancouver, and it seems to me like that the majority of skiers fall in to two age categories on the local North Shore mountains. Teenagers, and people over the age of 40. Those in between snowboarding.
post #13 of 13
It'll be interesting to see how the boarder/skier trends stack-up, long term.

Here, at Mt. Baker, where many feel boarding was born (in numbers), it's dominated skiing for years. But, there may be a swing back.

One of my employees, a young athletic guy of about 22 years, and his tribe, have parked their snowboards in favor of twin-tips. They've concluded that boarding has gotten "old", and it's time for something different.

Whether this is just an anomaly, or local, is difficult to say. Fat skis and twin-tips rule with these guys.

It's ironic to think of skiing as "counter-culture".
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