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Upgrading to vice...whats your opinion to mod this setup? BEWARE...PICS

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
Okay, here is what I have so far...







So I think I'm going to buy an actual vice for this bench...any ideas where to get one. I'm not so much worried about price. Alltho I'm just a college kid, i do all my own tuning, as well as all of my friends and family...and the money I'm able to save people, myself included, is kinda how I'm "thinking or rationalizing" spending money on a nice vice. Besides, the entire bench i have here cost me less than $50 bucks, the wood was basically free, i just paid shop time at a woodworking shop i used to work at.

I want something heavy duty, something that will WORK well. If possible, maybe even a vice set that will hold a snowboard.

Where to buy? What to get? Whats a fair price? Etc.
post #2 of 20
Sweet set up. I like the adjustability that you have engineered into the tune bench. I probably am going to copy your bench and claim that I am the original designer.
post #3 of 20
Nilaszewski, nice work.

The easiest option is to simply add a slot to your end blocks or to the sides and secure your skis with the Lasso Clamp. (also see the Cinch for ideas).





Another option with your skills, you could easily let in a T-track and slot bolts, but you are already close to a nice set up.
post #4 of 20
Add some suction cups or similar non-slip rubber to your end pieces and you basically have a snowboard setup.
post #5 of 20
Why? Your bench and vise look as good as any. But if that money is burning a hole in yoru pocket, Artechski.com usually has the lowest prices, I just bought the Swix World Cup 90mm model for $125 from them....I have been shopping around for a long, long, time.
post #6 of 20
Both Slidewright.com & Tools4Boards.com sell the vises and are EpicSki Supporters offering 20% off. The Cinch or Pro500 vises are less cost and will handle your needs. The Cinch can also secure snowboards, touring, tele & skate skis.
post #7 of 20
Best ski vices IMO are the 'Jaws of Beast' from the Race Place:
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post #8 of 20
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Originally Posted by XJguy View Post
Why? Your bench and vise look as good as any.
I agree. What would you gain buying a commercial vise? It is really easy spending money in this sport, so why spend money for no gain. I suggest putting the money towards some other piece of equipment you do not already own and cannot build (i.e. hotronics, brushes, waxes, ... this list could be endless). I built my own bench and vise, and while they do not look as good as yours, they work well, are sturdy, and will not need replacing any time soon. That certainly has not stopped me from spending money on this vice - every single year, summer, spring, and even winter -just ask my wife!.
post #9 of 20
On the shovel and tail rests, I would reset those with a carriage bolt screwed from the bottom (tightly), into the wood and use a wing nut on the top just to make the adjustment easy without going under the bench.

Nice .... solved a lot of problems with minimal cost. My first one with a vice from the hardware store was a pain in the adz and the vice was not cheap.

Perhaps a piece of metal over a few scrap ceramic tiles to act as a place to park the iron??

Cross brace the back legs since the edge tuning and scraping can induce a lot of wobble ????

if it sounds like I forgot a few of the above .... yeah ... I did ...
post #10 of 20
I didnt have the patience to setup a nice bench and vise like yours so I used the old work bench that was in my boiler room and bought the Swix pro vise...just started to set things up so its still messy.

post #11 of 20
nilaszewski!!!

Dood!!! That bench is the bomb!!! Just add some rubber to the tops of the end supports (pieces of bike tires?) and you'll be golden. If I'd had the space for such a bench, and the facilities to build one, I doubt I would have as good an outcome as do you. Don't waste your money buying a vice, I doubt there will be any appreciable difference.

Why am I yelling!?!?!?!
post #12 of 20
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Originally Posted by XJguy View Post
I didnt have the patience to setup a nice bench and vise like yours so I used the old work bench that was in my boiler room and bought the Swix pro vise...just started to set things up so its still messy.


Er, um, XJguy? That looks like a scary depressing room (dungeon?). : Ever consider spraying some bleach on the walls to kill off the mold/mildew, sand it, and then slather it with waterproof paint?

sincerely, Mr. Anal

Ooh! Hefeweizen?
post #13 of 20
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Originally Posted by volantaddict View Post
Er, um, XJguy? That looks like a scary depressing room. : Ever consider spraying some bleach on the walls to kill off the mold, sand it, and then slather it with waterproof paint?

sincerely, Mr. Anal

LOL...my girlfriend wont go down there alone...I call it the dungeon. But its not as bad in person as in the pics...actually yes it is who am I kidding. I would go all out, paint, sheet rock etc, but I rent the house and plan on buying my own place in a year or two, so for now it will do. Besides the look makes it appear like I really work hard in there! I do have a 27" TV, with cable and a surround sound stereo in there! Also my new hot box is located just in front of that ugly bench, that alone is worth price of admission.

Yes good eye! That is Hefe! But I am drinking it out of a Stella glass.
post #14 of 20
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all the compliments!

You have all persuaded me to just leave this bench be, well sort of. I'm always one to improve on everything...so this is what I'm thinking, with the help of your ideas.

Ill find some rubber to place on the tail and tip supports. They work fine right now but i do wish the held a bit better. I want them to stay up better as well, even by tightening down the wing nuts, the still slide as there is a dent from me reefing it down so tight. I'm going to try to install some type of channel or groove setup so they lock at a certain height.

As far as the mock adjustable boot i have, I originally made one out of pine, that was a mistake. 1 tuneup and it was all dented to crap and probably would have lasted no longer than 3 total tunes. I then made another out of walnut, a much much much harder wood. This one is working well, used for the entire season, probably around 35 tunes between my girlfriend, her parents and little brother, my little brother, and a few of my friends, and myself of course.

So how can i improve it? I think I'm going to take an old pair of boots and use a hack saw to remove the sole. If i can get that done. I should be able to attach it to a new set of boot jigs and that will be the cats arse.

I'm going to have to take a picture of the bench setup right now. Lol, its setup in the college house we are renting. We have a lease through August 2008 so it will be there for a while. Its actually right in our living room or dining room i guess, but hey, nothing beats a pair of finely tuned skis. I have lights and a power strip mounted. The shelf is full of all the tools etc.
post #15 of 20
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Originally Posted by nilaszewski View Post
Thanks for all the compliments!

You have all persuaded me to just leave this bench be, well sort of. I'm always one to improve on everything...so this is what I'm thinking, with the help of your ideas.

Ill find some rubber to place on the tail and tip supports. They work fine right now but i do wish the held a bit better. I want them to stay up better as well, even by tightening down the wing nuts, the still slide as there is a dent from me reefing it down so tight. I'm going to try to install some type of channel or groove setup so they lock at a certain height.

As far as the mock adjustable boot i have, I originally made one out of pine, that was a mistake. 1 tuneup and it was all dented to crap and probably would have lasted no longer than 3 total tunes. I then made another out of walnut, a much much much harder wood. This one is working well, used for the entire season, probably around 35 tunes between my girlfriend, her parents and little brother, my little brother, and a few of my friends, and myself of course.

So how can i improve it? I think I'm going to take an old pair of boots and use a hack saw to remove the sole. If i can get that done. I should be able to attach it to a new set of boot jigs and that will be the cats arse.

I'm going to have to take a picture of the bench setup right now. Lol, its setup in the college house we are renting. We have a lease through August 2008 so it will be there for a while. Its actually right in our living room or dining room i guess, but hey, nothing beats a pair of finely tuned skis. I have lights and a power strip mounted. The shelf is full of all the tools etc.
They sell a boot mock up is sold separately, I have seen them for sale and adjustable no less so you can use them with all the skis you tune. Maybe one of the retailers that post here can give you more info.
post #16 of 20
Here's the Tools4Boards Pro500 Boot option:



Cam clamps or knobs work better than wing nuts for tightening and shifting positions, with cam clamps very quick and effective.



But I still think you'd be fine with the Lasso Clamp. I just posted a page on The Cinch that shows different positions of skis & boards, which you could easily tweak your nice set up to do.
post #17 of 20
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Originally Posted by nilaszewski View Post
So how can i improve it? I think I'm going to take an old pair of boots and use a hack saw to remove the sole. If i can get that done. I should be able to attach it to a new set of boot jigs and that will be the cats arse.
Atomic boots use bolt-on toe and heal lugs that would work perfectly.
post #18 of 20
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Originally Posted by Alpinord View Post
Here's the Tools4Boards Pro500 Boot option:



Cam clamps or knobs work better than wing nuts for tightening and shifting positions, with cam clamps very quick and effective.



But I still think you'd be fine with the Lasso Clamp. I just posted a page on The Cinch that shows different positions of skis & boards, which you could easily tweak your nice set up to do.
The Pro500 setup is handy, but the boot is a bit lame if you have a size 10 or larger foot. The adjustable boot (shown) is too flexible, to the point it must be supported in order to click your ski on it. They work good enough once your ski is in, but I'm afraid if I didn't add extra support under the boot piece it would snap off because it extends too far past the support area.
post #19 of 20
I am curious how you secure the ski on edge with this set up....
post #20 of 20
By rotating the boot and the tip & tail supports. There's a poor picture for now....on our Edges page.
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