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post #31 of 40

thanks for the info, ill be sure to check that out

 

in some of my research into vail i came across what looked like a sort of backcoutry route that went to a small town.  It started at the top of vail mountain and went all the way to this town.  I think it started with an "M".  It just looked like something interesting to try.

 

any info?

post #32 of 40

The Minturn Mile.  See posts 16 and 27 for references.  Google.

post #33 of 40
I just got home from Beaver Creek / Vail and did the Minturn last Thursday right after 36" in 48 hrs and was the high light of my trip. Virtually untouched waist deep powder. It was very easy to find the gate off of Lost Boy. It naturally takes you in the right direction. There were already a few tracks and we basically followed. I had talked to several locals and an istructor who was familiar with the route and got suggestions as well as telling us it was a low risk area.

The top is wide open and was wonderful with waist deep powder. Then it funnels into the trees and becomes more of a very long 3+ mile narrow run out which at one point has a creek crossing. There are suppose to be ponds somewhere as well but I did not notice. The run out has a few pushes and side steps but many dips so be careful with speed and pay attention.

It eventually becomes a hiking trail and you follow the blazes to the trailhead and parking lot. The day we ran it the road was covered in snow from the storm and we pushed and skated right to the Minturn Saloon for our trip party.

Big time fun!

Rick G
post #34 of 40

Oh so there is a marked gate?  I thought you had to duck the boudary lines.  So is this gate hard to miss or is it tucked away?

post #35 of 40
There are several marked gates where it is legal to leave the resort boundaries. These gates are posted with warnings that you are leaving the resorts responsibility etc. It is not legal to duck under ropes. That can get you in trouble.

The gate for the Minturn (does not say Minturn) that we took is right off of Lost Boy Trail at the top of Game Creek Express. You start off on Lost Boy and just as the trail starts to drop off a bit and bears right there is a gate on your left. Enter there and traverse to skiers right for a tad and drop into the bowl. You will see a small Aspen glade on the far side of the bowl. It looked skiable as well.

That bowl will funnel after a bit and you just follow the terrain as I mentioned in the previous post. I am pretty sure we had cell coverage in there but don't count on it.

Good luck,

Rick G
post #36 of 40
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Originally Posted by monkeyski33 View Post

Oh so there is a marked gate?  I thought you had to duck the boudary lines.  So is this gate hard to miss or is it tucked away?



Ducking a rope is illegal and can get you a hefty fine.  Colorado is not Utah.  Our snowpack is more unstable than Utah's, and when folk jump ropes, they can put folk in danger trying to rescue them.

 

A few years ago, the head of the Freeride program at the Copper ski school along with a buddy ducked the rope at Breck to ski the Sky chutes.  They did all sorts of things wrong, including starting way too late.  Needless to say, they triggered a pretty large avalanche, were scared out of their wits, and had to bushwhack their way down through tight trees.  By the time they arrived at the bottom, there was quite a crowd to greet them, including the Mountain bureau of the news programs, the Summit County Search and Rescue, and, yes, the Summit County Sheriff.  Not a good outcome -- the Copper employee was disciplined.  And the things is, they ducked the rope to avoid hiking uphill had they exited through one of the legal gates.

 

In another thread, Bob Peters remarks about how many folk seem to treat avi gear now as a mechanism to "save" them while they take on unreasonable risk.  There are backcountry gates at most Colorado resorts.  And you are free to use them.  However, one ought to really understand the consequences of their actions not only on themselves, but the other folk they may put at risk trying to save them if they get into trouble.  The gates often are located in a fashion to cause folk to think about what they are doing.  Not that it necessarily helps, but maybe it does.

 

We've had three avalanche deaths in Colorado this year, remarkably low given the amount of snow and the rotten layers that are out there.  I do hope folk have fun in the side and slack country of our resorts, but I also hope they have chosen to be there with full knowledge of what they are getting themselves into.

 

Mike

 

post #37 of 40

 I know what your saying guys.  A friend and I ducked a rope maybe 15 years ago and the two of us nearly got killed in a slide.  Thats not something I am ever going to do again.  I was just trying to get some information on the route i.e. what it would take to actually ski it.  I have never been there before and had only heard small snippets of conversantion about the Mile and didnt know if it was legal of not.  

 

Anyways, thanks for the information. 

post #38 of 40

Hey all.  I'm the guy at www.joelbettner.blogspot.com.  I just wanted to chime in and let you know that although EV is pretty easy to access and can seem reasonably safe, there is certainly a lot of danger back there.  To reinforce what others have already said, it is best to go back there; 1) with someone who is familiar with the area (to prevent yourself from getting cliffed out, or from going into high avy danger areas) and 2) with all the proper gear that YOU HAVE PRACTICED WITH.  

 

I have two good friends who have gotten caught in avalanches back there in the past 12 months.  Both of them live in Vail and have been skiing EV for years.  Perhaps it was a matter of complacency with them when they got caught or perhaps they just got unlucky.  In either case, although EV can seem benign it isn't to be taken lightly.

post #39 of 40
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Hey all.  I'm the guy at www.joelbettner.blogspot.com.  I just wanted to chime in and let you know that although EV is pretty easy to access and can seem reasonably safe, there is certainly a lot of danger back there.  To reinforce what others have already said, it is best to go back there; 1) with someone who is familiar with the area (to prevent yourself from getting cliffed out, or from going into high avy danger areas) and 2) with all the proper gear that YOU HAVE PRACTICED WITH.  

 

I have two good friends who have gotten caught in avalanches back there in the past 12 months.  Both of them live in Vail and have been skiing EV for years.  Perhaps it was a matter of complacency with them when they got caught or perhaps they just got unlucky.  In either case, although EV can seem benign it isn't to be taken lightly.


Well said and I agree 100%

post #40 of 40

Party foul.

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