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post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
Hey all, bit of a newbie here. Hope I'm not asking a question that's been covered well already... I'm looking for some purchasing advice on goggles, and rental advice on skis. For goggles, I'm just looking for something that won't fog up, I don't care how much I have to spend (within reason). Previous seasons, my cheap $20 goggles from Target fogged and iced over easily, and they were sometimes the only thing keeping me from having a good time.

About the skis... I've skied 8 days in my lifetime, all of them on "last year's" 160cm K2 rentals. They've served the purpose, but now that I'm getting better I'm thinking that maybe there's something better I can rent this year. I'm going to be skiing five days, one at A-Basin and four at Copper (will spend most of my time there in the bowls and in the trees). Since I don't feel like swapping rentals every night, I intend to get one pair of skis for all 5 days. It'll be doing everything from green groomers to the double black extremes, and I'll probably try some boxes and maybe even rails. Since I haven't skied anything else, I have a hard time knowing how the K2s could be improved upon, but they certainly didn't float in powder like I'd been hoping. I think I'd be happier with a wider ski, but don't know what the rental shops are likely to have.

Any input on either matter would be appreciated.
post #2 of 19
As far as goggles go for Oakley A-frames, thats what I use. Fire lenses for high light, H.I. yellow lenses for low/flat light. Anons, Spy, some smith, and some scott are good as well. If you wear a helmet (you prob should) make sure the gogs fit well.
post #3 of 19
I've been rocking some Carreras for the past several years. I got them because they fit over my glasses.

They have yellow/amber lenses, which I find are the most versatile for a wide variety of conditions and fairly good even in flat light.

Basically, opt for a lens color that will be versatile in a multitude of conditions from sunny (UV protection) to white-outs, flat light, and the like. And go for something that is well vented and anti-fog treated.
post #4 of 19
Possibly off topic, but you've skied 8 days total, and you plan to do boxes, glades and double black diamonds, your either 16 and fearless or just a little off kilter.

As for ski's, find what the rental places carry, then just do some online research here and around the web, then pick something that's a little more advanced and tailored to what you want to ski. For Goggles, just go name brand, double lens, and find a good fit.
post #5 of 19
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Originally Posted by SandInMyShoes View Post
Hey all, bit of a newbie here. Hope I'm not asking a question that's been covered well already... I'm looking for some purchasing advice on goggles, and rental advice on skis. For goggles, I'm just looking for something that won't fog up, I don't care how much I have to spend (within reason). Previous seasons, my cheap $20 goggles from Target fogged and iced over easily, and they were sometimes the only thing keeping me from having a good time.

About the skis... I've skied 8 days in my lifetime, all of them on "last year's" 160cm K2 rentals. They've served the purpose, but now that I'm getting better I'm thinking that maybe there's something better I can rent this year. I'm going to be skiing five days, one at A-Basin and four at Copper (will spend most of my time there in the bowls and in the trees). Since I don't feel like swapping rentals every night, I intend to get one pair of skis for all 5 days. It'll be doing everything from green groomers to the double black extremes, and I'll probably try some boxes and maybe even rails. Since I haven't skied anything else, I have a hard time knowing how the K2s could be improved upon, but they certainly didn't float in powder like I'd been hoping. I think I'd be happier with a wider ski, but don't know what the rental shops are likely to have.

Any input on either matter would be appreciated.
As for goggles -- I've been a fan of yellow / amber lenses for a long time. They work well in flat light, work well in bright light -- they just work. I'm currently having good luck with a pair of Carrerra goggles. Suppossedly double-lens models work wonders to help prevent fogging. If you wear a helmet, take that along when you go goggle shopping.

As for skis -- you've had eight days in your life and you're already aiming for double black glades and bowls? That is one heck of a learning curve! I'm an East Coaster, so my knowledge of powder boards is pretty limited. I'd just talk to the guy at the rental shop, see what they have and what they recommend. Ride it for a day, see if you like it and swap it out for something else if you don't.
post #6 of 19
If this link doesn't work go to the Sierra Trading Post web site and search for goggles. They've got deals on brand name stuff.

http://www.sierratradingpost.com/eui...10F23E19 396A
post #7 of 19
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the input on the goggles! I had no idea about the lens colors, or the double lenses. Here's a couple I'm looking at: http://www.sierratradingpost.com/pro...wsport-Goggles
http://www.sierratradingpost.com/pro...les---Mirrored
I like the idea of the auto-darkening on the Bolles, but I mainly just want something that'll work good in flat light as well as suitably in bright, and doesn't fog easily.

I'm 19, not fearless, and maybe just a bit off-kilter On my 6th day of skiing last year, somebody was kind enough to go a couple runs with me and give me some coaching. He taught me about keeping my body pointed down the fall line, coaxed me into putting more weight on my downhill ski, and stuff like that. All of a sudden, skiing became effortless and I felt ready for anything. The final two days I tackled a number of double blacks, and pretty much left the majority of people in my dust. I need to work on my pole plants a bit, but I pretty much feel ready to tear it up
post #8 of 19
I have and like Brikos. I had Carrera and they were also good.
post #9 of 19
Don't wory about what skis to buy. The first thing you need is proper fitting boots.
post #10 of 19
I bought the last pair of their regular Bolle phototropic lensed goggles a couple days ago. The ones you listed:

http://www.sierratradingpost.com/pro...wsport-Goggles

are made to "fit over your glasses," which makes them very big. Unless you plan on wearing presciption glasses under the googles you should go for another model. If you get the ones with mirrored lenses don't forget to put sunscreen on your nose or you may cook it on a sunny day. You should check the manufacturers' web sites for specific info on the lenses. Some of them may be too dark to work well in flat light.
post #11 of 19

Newbie Skis and Goggles

Sandinshoes. Bolle, Nova lense changing goggles. $54.00 free delivery at Peepers on google. They are great in flat light, vary from 28% of letting light thru (bright day) to letting 66% in on flat light day. I have a Giro helmet 9 and they fit perfect. I donot wear glasses under goggles. Welcome to Epic Pete
post #12 of 19

Smith Turbo-Cam goggles

I too used to have problems with my glasses and with goggles fogging up. By far, the best anti-fogging goggle is the Smite Turbo-Cam. They come with a two speed fan mounted on the top of the goggle which draws air through the goggles. There just isn't any passive airflow system that can compete.
post #13 of 19
I had a pair of bolle's and they fogged so bad I threw them away. Got a pair of Markers and never looked back. Before you buy goggles, you should get your helmet first. Make sure the pair work together. Nothing worse then going out and spending about $100 on your goggles only to find out they don't fit well with your helmet!
post #14 of 19
I have a pair of Zeal Detonators - Polarized/Photochromatic lenses. Best goggles I have owned. They are a little steep on the price side but they are definitely worth it. Keep in mind that the detonator is a large goggle so you have to make sure it works with your helmet (if you wear one)
post #15 of 19

Zeal PPX

SnowKarma: Tell me more about the Zeal PPX lense. I have been considering buying these, but I haven't seen much on the internet to convince me that they are worth ~$159. But, I like the idea of adjusting chromatic lenses.

SandInMyShoes: I'm impressed with your Double Diamond Black milestone on your first trip. What resort did you go to?
post #16 of 19
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Originally Posted by SandInMyShoes View Post
About the skis... I've skied 8 days in my lifetime, .... I'm going to be skiing five days,..... It'll be doing everything from green groomers to the double black extremes, and I'll probably try some boxes and maybe even rails.
This has to be a wind-up, surely?? If it isn't, I'm keeping well out of your way! Sorry, don't mean to be harsh but I just don't believe you can be skiing safely on double blacks after 8 days and a few pointers. Or is this the typical 19-year old male beginners' mentality that doesn't know the difference between "doing" (getting down any old how) and "skiing" (in control and with style)? I should worry less about what skis you're on and concentrate on lessons
post #17 of 19
Probably would be better to ask each questions in a separate thread. Anywhere, here's my $.02.

If you plan to ski 5 or more days a year and plan to do it this and up coming years also, buy good-fitting boots.

Then rent skis as you need to or better yet, find a "deal" on some decent used skis or maybe new skis of leftover stock from a prior year. That way you won't have to deal with rentals.

For goggles, I find the key is more how you wear them than what you where. I used to fog up all the time and now I never do. The trick is not to futz with them and not to exhale the wrong way.

Also, I find that unless it's really snowing/raining hard, I like a pair of light amber glasses better. The plastic lens kind popular with mountaining bikers. They won't fog that easily and are easier to wipe if they do and they let your eyes vent.
post #18 of 19
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Originally Posted by SandInMyShoes View Post
I'm 19, not fearless, and maybe just a bit off-kilter On my 6th day of skiing last year, somebody was kind enough to go a couple runs with me and give me some coaching. He taught me about keeping my body pointed down the fall line, coaxed me into putting more weight on my downhill ski, and stuff like that. All of a sudden, skiing became effortless and I felt ready for anything. The final two days I tackled a number of double blacks, and pretty much left the majority of people in my dust.
You are either the greatest natural talent that has ever visited these forums, or you are (despite your claims to the contrary) absolutely fearless. What areas did you get your previous 8 days of experience at?

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Originally Posted by SandInMyShoes View Post
I need to work on my pole plants a bit, but I pretty much feel ready to tear it up
Might I humbly suggest a lesson from a certified instruction in addition to your search for new skis? And ask him / her to give you an honest assessment of your abilities -- before you discover that the mountain is more then ready to tear you up. People do get hurt skiing, a concept that a lot of teenagers have trouble believing.
post #19 of 19
Thread Starter 
Thanks alot for all the input and advice! Especially learn2turn's tip about the glasses, I think I'll try that. With my current goggles, I learned really quickly to leave them in place, but there's only so much I can do about controlling the breathing if I get into a traverse, or find myself in knee-deep pow with no momentum I'll try a pair of Spy goggles and some glasses this year.

In addition, thanks for the suggestion to buy boots. I can't afford it this season, but I'll try different boots at the rental shop if I get a chance. I've always been quite happy with the fit I get from rentals, not sure how they could be improved upon. Additionally, I'm yearning for a pair of cheap skis for the few snow days we have here in MO. How far back does the current binding system work? Will skis from 20-30 years ago work with new boots?

I should note that my 8 days of skiing experience were not consecutive. I had 4 days in 2005 and 4 days in early 2006, all of them at Copper. eng_ch, I guess I don't mind getting down any-old-how, as long as I'm having fun. I do try to stay in control as much as possible, as those snow snakes seem to strike whenever I'm not However I'm sure I don't get any style points, but I'm working on 'em as best as I can. This year I hope to get some video footage and improve on my style a bit.
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