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post #61 of 73
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Yes there is a time and place for everything. But banning switch skiing on the entire mountain seems like going way to far. Even if it was 3 kids skiing switch (I'm sure it was a lot more) that's too many. I'm not going to bat for everyone that skis switch, some of them are out of control but putting down a blanket law like that is just not cool.
I don't think it's unreasonable to ban switch skiing when the terrain is limited. If most skiers are being funneled into a confined area, or there's a lot of cross-traffic, then it's the area's job to minimize the potential for adverse interaction between users - be it racers, families, switch skiers, boarders, et al. Given that the available terrain right now is finite, I have no problem with the patrol being militant about things. They're just trying to keep things safe when skiers and boarders of disparate ability levels are forced to share the same territory.

Now, as far as Okemo's policy when most or all of their terrain is open, that's for the area management to decide. And since Okemo aims at the family market, it's not implausible for them to put the kibosh on switch skiing, especially outside of the terrain park areas.

To me, I can see the issue popping up on gentler slopes, where families and skiers of less confident ability tend to ski. When a switcher comes down the hill, going this way and that, cutting off and intimidating the families and shaky skiers and boarders. It's a level of interaction that hits to the core of the business model for a family ski area: if the skiing environment doesn't encourage return business from families and others who will spend their money at the resort (on the hill, in the base shops and eateries), then the area is doomed. This is even worse at an area that charges a premium for its wares - and Okemo is certainly such an area.

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Originally Posted by SnowBlower View Post
It's about as bad as Alta banning snowboarders (I don't board but boarders have helped progress out sport).
And to repeat what other have said: kudos to Alta, Deer Valley, Taos and MRG for keeping the 'boarders out! Granted, it's gotten better in recent years, but there's still some cultural "misunderstanding" (to put it mildly) between the ski and board set.

But it's a model that works for these four areas, and they aren't exactly hurting for business.
post #62 of 73
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Originally Posted by carvemeister View Post
God Bless Alta. Its a better place without snowboarders. And that's a fact.
And I'll be proving that sometime around 2/21/07, as I just this minute finished booking a week's trip to SLC for the family and I. Thinking of trying the Snowbasin - Powder Mountain thang this time to avoid Pres. week crowds, but with a day or two trip south to pay homage to the powder church of skiing!
post #63 of 73
Okemo has not banned skiing switch. As others have surmised, anyone that had their pass pulled for skiing backwards was obviously doing something else they shouldn't have been doing.
post #64 of 73
I know the people on this forum will never side with me but you guys have some legit points. A lot of boarders suck but a lot of skiers suck as well. I have a lot of boarder friends and a few of them can throw down almost as well as me and my one skier friend. Anyway this is getting off topic so carry on with what the thread was intended for.
post #65 of 73

Okemo

The original thread was about Okemo and kind of developed into the ski/board thing.

I've skied/boarded Okemo each of the last three Saturdays and Sundays and the mountain groomers made the most of what they had. Okemo has always been at the top of the heap when it comes to snowmaking and grooming. Winter has yet to put in a real appearance but we appreciate what the folks up there are doing in the interim.

Regarding the ski-only mountain discussion, I have to tell you that as a 60 year-old, I split my time 50/50 between skiing and boarding. The shot below was taken the same day at Telluride a couple of years ago.



I recognize that mountains have the right to ban boarding but I think it's very shortsighted. With increasing numbers of young boarders, families picking resort destinations are going to be reluctant to go to a ski-only destination. With Deer Valley, Mad River, and Alta, there are board-friendly alternatives within a short drive but not so as Taos. I had an enjoyable week of skiing there two years ago but I won't return until they change their policy. I spent the better part of the week wishing I could switch to a board. Just my 3 cents (inflation, you know.....)

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post #66 of 73
I want them to ban everyone except me and whoever I'm with. Is anyone else annoyed by other people on the mountian?
post #67 of 73
In this, The Year Without Winter, Okemo has been doing Herculean labors to keep enough snow on the mountain to stay open. Kudos indeed!
If you don't like Okemo (No challenge, man!), camp out at the base of MRG and wait for them to open.
And when several hundred skiers and boarders are crowded onto very limited and narrow trails, don't be surprised if the Ski Patrol is not impressed with the antics of skiers or riders demonstrating reckless behavior. Jim Livingston is a no-nonsense, look-you-straight-in-the eye kind of guy who will be more than willing to show you precisely where the bear s--t in the buckwheat. Don't test him or his people.
Having said all this, it looks like Jay is the only place in Vermont where I would even consider skiing.
post #68 of 73
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by SnowBlower View Post
to Okemo
They don't allow you to ski switch.

Just getting back to his thread,

Who told you Okemo doesn't allow you to ski backwards ?

I may have missed something at one of our meetings, but I don't recall being told that by my supervisor at Okemo.
post #69 of 73
Heard it on a newschoolers.
post #70 of 73
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Originally Posted by SnowBlower View Post
Heard it on a newschoolers.
Sorry Max, but if heard it there, it must be true.

Please let all your fellow employees know tomorrow will ya!
post #71 of 73

Cruising backwards

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Originally Posted by Max Capacity View Post
Just getting back to his thread,

Who told you Okemo doesn't allow you to ski backwards ?

I may have missed something at one of our meetings, but I don't recall being told that by my supervisor at Okemo.
Does that mean I can't ride switch on my snowboard too? : :.

I just started to work for the mountain this year and I've not heard of any ban on skiing backwards.
post #72 of 73
can't always believe what you read on the internet.
post #73 of 73
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
can't always believe what you read on the internet.
unless its on wikipedia
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