Originally Posted by dookey67
Jeff was the one who suggested ZipFit, a foam liner, or heel padding (not sure if the order he suggested them inferred the order he would recommend the fixes, but that's how I read it).
I think I'm pretty aggressively downsized in the HR. I mean I crunch the front with my toes standing straight and they pull back the proper amount when I flex forward. I don't think I could go another size smaller.
If the boot is the correct size and you have a race fit, i think that you need a boot with a narrower heel. IMO plug and semi-plug boots work best with <1 finger shell fit.
FWIW, my foot is 271-272mm long, 99-100mm wide and i have a UK5 HR Top Fuel. My foot is touching the shell everywhere when the liner is removed and my big toe is touching the front even when i flex. I have a 0mm shell fit. If i try to push my foot forward i have 2-3mm shell fit. This is the only way to have a relatively narrow heel in the HR. If i got the next bigger size (which i tried on) i had slightly more than 1 finger behind my heel. This is the size that most people buy IMO. The heel is defintely wider and i can tell you that the difference is huge. This is why JEff said that the HR has a medium fit throughout.
The HR is, in fact, a semi-plug. It has the Dobie Pro last with a shock absorbing zeppa and a front spoiler.
My boot is unbearable with the stock liner. I have a very thin lace-up liner that i use. It is one size bigger than the shell. Without this liner the boot would require grinding in many areas.
If you want a boot with a tighter heel i would look at the Atomic CS or Lange semi-plugs. These boots are very different,though...If you want an upright stance they will work only with some modification and the plastic compound for the Atomic is different. It is "gummy" and this affects the performance. They are all good boots but ski well only for the right skier.