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Changing Pole Baskets: Help!

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
How does one change a pole basket? I've never had to do it, but I think I'm going to buy a pair of these:


But I want these on them, since I ski in UT and CO mainly now:



Thanks!
post #2 of 17
You have to get the old ones off the plastic ferrules that look like this:



I usually just cut them off with crash scissors because I have no patience.

With sufficient pressure, the new ones just snap on from the bottom.

PS, if you take the ferrule off too you can swap for THESE, hehheheh
post #3 of 17
Yours pictured don't look like it, but some screw off. some slip right off, some are impossible to remove easily, some will come off with help from a heat gun, and others you have to just give up trying to get the old ones off and cut it off with a box cutter, just be careful not to cut into the ferrule pictured previously. When putting the new one on, use a lubricant, saliva works.
post #4 of 17
just worndering, why GS poles for freeskiing?
post #5 of 17
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Originally Posted by monkeyboy View Post
just worndering, why GS poles for freeskiing?
Get those huge baskets in out of the slipstream.
post #6 of 17
I've always had good luck with this method for the snap on ones:

Get a big adjustable wrench - the one I have is about 12 inches long. Adjust the wrench to just fit over the shaft of the pole above the basket. Put the tip of the pole on the ground with something hard under it. (Pole standing vertical). Put the wrench over the pole above the basket. Hold the wrench out near the end (away from the pole). Take a hammer and hit the wrench sharply (about like driving a nail) as close to the pole and as vertically as you can.

Usually the basket will come right off, though there have been some I've had to hit 5 or 6 times.

To replace them, press them on enough to stay put, then find a hole (or put two pieces of wood close to each other) large enough for the pole but not the basket. Rap down sharply a couple of times.

Done.
post #7 of 17
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Originally Posted by monkeyboy View Post
just worndering, why GS poles for freeskiing?
I always used to freeski with GS poles when I was racing, because freeskiing with SL guards is annoying. I got used to having the plant point slightly behind my hand, and like the feel of it. (I had small disc baskets, cones are useless off of ice)

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I'll try a heat gun if I can find one around, but the cones look like the type of deal to require a dremel. I'd ideally like to not destroy them, in case I ever want to put them back on. But hell, for 6 bucks I could just get new ones.

MDF's solution will be tried first, although i'll have to be very careful around that shaft tip with a pounding implement.
post #8 of 17
MDF's method works well, but never tried it with cone baskets.
post #9 of 17
Have to admit I've never looked closely at cone baskets.
Not sure if the attachment mechanism is same or different.

I'd think if you get the wrench set "just so" the method should still work, with perhaps cosmetic dents on the top of the removed cones.
post #10 of 17
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Originally Posted by mdf View Post
I've always had good luck with this method for the snap on ones:

Get a big adjustable wrench - the one I have is about 12 inches long. Adjust the wrench to just fit over the shaft of the pole above the basket. Put the tip of the pole on the ground with something hard under it. (Pole standing vertical). Put the wrench over the pole above the basket. Hold the wrench out near the end (away from the pole). Take a hammer and hit the wrench sharply (about like driving a nail) as close to the pole and as vertically as you can.
Usually the basket will come right off, though there have been some I've had to hit 5 or 6 times.
I think you're thinking of aluminum poles without a ferrule.

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To replace them, press them on enough to stay put, then find a hole (or put two pieces of wood close to each other) large enough for the pole but not the basket. Rap down sharply a couple of times.

Done.
Now I know you're talking about an aluminum pole. This method won't work as easily on these poles because these baskets sit in a channel in a ferrule. Since the lip of the ferrule is as large as the the meaty part of the basket, you can't get the wrench small enough and still pass the ferrule, so the basket will just deform in the wrench.
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Originally Posted by doublediamond223
I'll try a heat gun if I can find one around, but the cones look like the type of deal to require a dremel. I'd ideally like to not destroy them, in case I ever want to put them back on. But hell, for 6 bucks I could just get new ones.
Just be careful with the heat gun. You don't want to break the epoxy holding the ferrule to the pole.
a 6 buck replacement isn't worth the effort.
post #11 of 17
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Originally Posted by 2-turn View Post
Now I know you're talking about an aluminum pole.
Guilty as charged. Stuck in a mental rut, I guess.

Ok, impacts and composites are a bad mix. No hammer.

I still think there may be some merit in using the wrench to spread the contact 3/4 of the way around. Maybe put the far end of the wrench on a piece of wood and press down (maybe even put most of your weight on) the near end? The bump on the bottom of the channel is not that big.
post #12 of 17
Thread Starter 
The swix poles pictured are the WC Pro (aluminum) not the CT1 (carbon). They are both red, so it is somewhat hard to tell. Still, I'm not psyched about pounding near a small piece of metal. I'll see when I get them, but it may end up being a dremel operation, or a dental handpiece if I'm really worried about screwing it up.

Hell, I may just put my climbing shoes on and stand on the cone.
post #13 of 17
Easiest way I know: get a bucket of very hot (boiling) water and dip the basket in there for 1 minute. It will expand and come off easily by simply pressing with both feet while holding to the pole. Heat up the new basket before mounting.

I have done this twice, with different poles and worked very well.
post #14 of 17
Step #1 is to call the place that sold them to you and ask. There are a dozen "theme & variations" on this and many .... including the replacements will require a different technique.

The Scott GS that I just did were .... er ... unique. The original had a retainer clip, the replacements did not. Sprung the retainer and used a wrench to tap the old one off (just fit around the shaft) and tapped it with a hammer. Then used (per the shop), a pipe to hammer and set the replacement (no retainer clip .. pressure fit). It lasted 10 minutes.

Back to the garage .... repeat, except for a good scrub of the shaft with coarse sand paper to roughen (inside of new part + the shaft), and epoxy, and then tap it on hard with the pipe. Twenty trips and it's still there.
post #15 of 17
Don't know if anyone has said this, but you should get the brand of powder baskets that match your poles.

I have Lekis so all I have to do is pull (hard) and twist counter clockwise to remove. To install reverse the procedure. I do this several times a year. Other brands may be different. The hard part for me is remembering where I put the other baskets.
post #16 of 17
Thread Starter 
The picture I posted was swix powder baskets off of reliable racing to go with the swix poles from artech.
post #17 of 17
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Originally Posted by TomB View Post
Easiest way I know: get a bucket of very hot (boiling) water and dip the basket in there for 1 minute. It will expand and come off easily by simply pressing with both feet while holding to the pole. Heat up the new basket before mounting.

I have done this twice, with different poles and worked very well.
This is brillant, never tried it, but pure brillance.
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