Make sure you get the MF version
Originally Posted by FOG
I have an opportunity to buy some leftover Langes at a good price. i want them so I have can have new boots next fall when I would like to go to a Masterfit University bootfitting course. I would like to buy relatively high performance boots (I am an instructor, not looking for race boots), which means the "good plastic" ones, because I expect to do some alterations. I have huge calves and a high instep, although I have a D width. Do any of the Langes make the grade? My son is also interested in the course, and he has similar feet and calves, but wider, E or EE. Are any langes good candidates? Right now I ski in Nordica Beasts from 03-04 season, and he skis in some older Salomons which are a lesser grade and not really right for his skiing.
Also- Lange uses US sizing. Does anyone know which Lange length corresponds best to 28.5 for me or 29.5 for my son?
I have a 12D foot and I ski the Lange Comp 120 in a mid volume fit (MF not LF). I got these last year but think they are 2004 models, there is a post on the site somewhere that talks about my learning curve with these boots. I have seen newer mid fits as well, you just have to look for them. The boot works well for me for free skiing, but for racing I think I would want something a little stiffer. If you have a D width foot make sure you get the MF version, the LF version will be nothing but pain unless you have a lot of work done on them. If you are looking for a Racing Plug (the 150) or a Comp 130 I am pretty sure that these only come in the LF fit, so if you are sure you want a boot with these flex numbers you may want to look elsewhere. Also all the Lange comps have a significant amount of forward lean so you may want to factor this in as well.
I replaced the original footbed with an orthotic, but other than that I have not had any custom fitting done. I do wear my boots around the house for four hours a day for two weeks before I take them skiing since I don't believe in heat molding the liners (I think they pack in more quickly if you heat mold them). My wife likes to make fun of me since I usually wear my new boots while watching TV, and a john run is a real event, the cat usually heads for the hills when she hears me klunking around in them. Make sure the boots are warm the first time you try to get into them, since the new plastic they are using really stiffens up in the cold.
As regards mondo equivalents and shell sizes, my understanding is that with Langes the whole size and the next half size, ie. the 30 and the 29.5 are actually the same shell size, you can check this since the shell size in mm is molded into the boot in plastic at the bottom of the shell. The difference is the liner, the 30 liner comes a just a little more prepacked in than the 29.5 liner but if you wear them long enough the 29.5 will pack in to fit a 30 as well. The mondo US equivalent sizes should be printed on a tiny label attached at the front of the boot. For mondo boot size equivalents you just add the numbers together so a 29.5 should be roughly an 11.5 and a 28.5 should be a 10.5.
Finally, your son's E foot is probably going to require a custom fit in almost any advanced boot you'd be looking at. As others have noted, a Lange 90 CRL might work. The 90 CRL's still have the pinanfarina design but are a little less stiff than the comps and have a comfort fit liner. They are still pretty stiff for a recreational boot at at "90" flex so they work well for most expert skiers and will drive a race ski. I bought a pair last year for my daughter who has a broad foot too and has had a lot of problems with boot pain, these seem to have solved her issues
Hope this is helpful, let us know how things go for you.